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Aug 19, 2010, 12:39 PM
 
Fair to say?

washingtonpost.com

I know that most Americans are also apolitical, so maybe my subject is a little over-the-top, but those who are apolitical sure have a lousy information filter!
     
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Aug 19, 2010, 12:46 PM
 
What were they going on? News reports, or Obama's own actions?
     
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What difference does it make? What actions are you referring to?
     
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Aug 19, 2010, 01:13 PM
 
That number seems low to me.

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Aug 19, 2010, 01:20 PM
 
Look at a bell curve lately? How many deviations from the mean is it till you get to moron.
     
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Aug 19, 2010, 01:34 PM
 
Among those who say Obama is a Muslim, 60 percent say they learned about his religion from the media, suggesting that their opinions are fueled by misinformation.
It's that damn liberal MSM at work again!
     
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Bush Tax Cuts == Job Killer
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Aug 19, 2010, 01:38 PM
 
Originally Posted by besson3c
20% of Americans are morons
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Fair to say?

washingtonpost.com

I know that most Americans are also apolitical, so maybe my subject is a little over-the-top, but those who are apolitical sure have a lousy information filter!
I'd say it's closer to 26%.
Being in debt and celebrating a lower deficit is like being on a diet and celebrating the fact you gained two pounds this week instead of five.
     
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Aug 20, 2010, 10:18 AM
 
I'm sure 20% of the population believes other crazy shit, this just happens to be one of the more easily identifiable misconceptions.
     
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Aug 20, 2010, 10:26 AM
 
Or, 20% of Americans distrust politicians to the point where they think they openly lie about their religious affiliation. I'm sure that everyone has head that Obama considers himself to be a Christian, but some Americans find reasons not to believe what he says.
     
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Originally Posted by Dork. View Post
Or, 20% of Americans distrust politicians to the point where they think they openly lie about their religious affiliation.
I think that belies the main component of their distrust. If 9/11 hadn't happened, this wouldn't be the issue it is.
     
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Aug 20, 2010, 10:53 AM
 
I agree.
     
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Aug 20, 2010, 11:21 AM
 
Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
What difference does it make? What actions are you referring to?
You never seem to be paying attention!
     
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Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
You never seem to be paying attention!
The poll was taken before Obama's comments on the "Ground Zero" mosque/community center if that's what you are getting at.

I think it's obvious when you consider that Obama's full name, as revealed on the secret Indonesian birth certificate they don't want you to know about, is B-Rock "Tha Islamic Shock" Hussein Superfly Obama.

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Aug 20, 2010, 11:41 AM
 
Barock-a-rama-ding-dong?
     
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Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
You never seem to be paying attention!

If you are referring to his support of the mosque, this would further my own argument since it would be illogical to assume that because he was one of many to support it that he is Muslim.
     
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Post 'n run:

     
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Aug 20, 2010, 11:30 PM
 
Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
That number seems low to me.
Exactly. A little while ago, I read Empire of Illusion, (The End of Literacy & The Triumph of Spectacle) by Chris Hedges, and it's pretty frightening how unenlightened we're becoming.

Edit: Along the same vein,

http://www.funnyordie.com/lists/1750...ured_documents
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Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
Barock-a-rama-ding-dong?
Proves that wingers suck at trying to be funny.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Fair to say?
Nope. Doof's patented 95/5 rule states that 95% of every population are morons. Amerikkka is not immune to this rule.
Been inclined to wander... off the beaten track.
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Aug 22, 2010, 08:33 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dork. View Post
Or, 20% of Americans distrust politicians to the point where they think they openly lie about their religious affiliation. I'm sure that everyone has head that Obama considers himself to be a Christian, but some Americans find reasons not to believe what he says.
I think this pretty much nails it. They just think Obama is the consummate politician, shameless in asserting whatever faith or view it is that would give him the best shot at winning office.

I wouldn't say their skepticism is entirely unfounded. Misdirected maybe, but not unfounded.
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Originally Posted by screener View Post
Proves that wingers suck at trying to be funny.
Not nearly as bad as libs at avoiding hilarity.
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Aug 22, 2010, 10:12 PM
 
What sucks is that even if Obama was a Muslim that that would be a problem. Why do we want our politicians to be "just like us" when they often clearly are not?
     
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Originally Posted by ebuddy View Post
Not nearly as bad as libs at avoiding hilarity.
Now that's funny.
     
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Originally Posted by ebuddy View Post
Not nearly as bad as libs at avoiding hilarity.
BadK0sh?
     
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Originally Posted by screener View Post
Now that's funny.
No, it was a meaningless dig in response to your meaningless dig. Of course, neither were funny.
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
BadK0sh?
Hightekit?
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Originally Posted by ebuddy View Post
Hightekit?
efuddy? efuddy duddy?
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Aug 23, 2010, 07:56 AM
 
Well, If he WAS a Muslim what was he doing sitting in church listening to Rev. Wright for all those decades?
     
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Aug 23, 2010, 11:38 AM
 
Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
What sucks is that even if Obama was a Muslim that that would be a problem. Why do we want our politicians to be "just like us" when they often clearly are not?
Silly duck. If Obama were a Muslim, then naturally he would have to prove that he's not a terrorist sympathizer/takes money from Iran/thinks beards are cool.

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Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
Well, If he WAS a Muslim what was he doing sitting in church listening to Rev. Wright for all those decades?
My working theory is that he and Wright are gay lovers.

Say hello to your gay Muslim terrorist president, America! I hope you Libs are happy.

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Originally Posted by ebuddy View Post
No, it was a meaningless dig in response to your meaningless dig. Of course, neither were funny.
Right, "Barock-a-rama-ding-dong", is funny and the poster should be applauded for his hilarious dig at Obama.

It's a well known stereotypical fact that wingers have no sense of humor and shouldn't even attempt to be funny.

Your meaningless attempt to defend your compatriot of the same persuasion proves it again.
     
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Right, "Barock-a-rama-ding-dong", is funny and the poster should be applauded for his hilarious dig at Obama.

It's a well known stereotypical fact that wingers have no sense of humor and shouldn't even attempt to be funny.

Your meaningless attempt to defend your compatriot of the same persuasion proves it again.

Just when we think that he has peaked with coming up with 0bama he hits us with Barock-a-rama-ding-dong! I can't wait to see what comes next
     
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Aug 23, 2010, 03:17 PM
 
Looks like your assumptions are as bad as your other thoughts.
     
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How dare you call my other thoughts bad!

I happen to think that Burt Reynolds *is* handsome, what is so bad about that?
     
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How dare you call my other thoughts bad!

I happen to think that Burt Reynolds *is* handsome, what is so bad about that?
With or without mustache?
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Fuddy Duddy

Fuddy-duddy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A fuddy-duddy is an elderly person who may be old fashioned, boring, humorless, crabby, narrow-minded, and conservative.

Fuddy-duddy "was often used as a verb by a native of the state of Maine... in the sense of 'to act in a foolish or ineffectual manner"
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Just when we think that he has peaked with coming up with 0bama he hits us with Barock-a-rama-ding-dong! I can't wait to see what comes next
Wingers are funnier when they don't try to be.
Stay tuned.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
What sucks is that even if Obama was a Muslim that that would be a problem. Why do we want our politicians to be "just like us" when they often clearly are not?
I'm sorry, but this is really dumb.

Our expectations and reality are rarely the same. That's what drives change.

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With or without mustache?
With, of course! Has he shaved it off? Please tell me he hasn't!
     
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I'm sorry, but this is really dumb.

Our expectations and reality are rarely the same. That's what drives change.

-t

So you're saying that the politicians should be just like us? Smarter versions, maybe? Less affluent? Otherwise just the same?
     
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With, of course! Has he shaved it off? Please tell me he hasn't!
Sorry to burst your bubble.

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So you're saying that the politicians should be just like us? Smarter versions, maybe? Less affluent? Otherwise just the same?
No, they should represent the people's will and concerns, understand what makes regular folk tick, and make sure the people's will is balanced with the Constitution and other principles (like ethics etc...).

Do you have to be smarter or more affluent to do so ? You tell me...

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Sorry to burst your bubble.


My g-d, he looks *way* better with the mustache!
     
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Originally Posted by turtle777 View Post
No, they should represent the people's will and concerns, understand what makes regular folk tick, and make sure the people's will is balanced with the Constitution and other principles (like ethics etc...).

Do you have to be smarter or more affluent to do so ? You tell me...

-t

Aren't you always the one bitching about how dumb so many of our politicians seem to be? Maybe part of the reason why we elect dumb politicians is because we want them to be like us, somebody to have a beer with? We had that for 8 years with Bush and almost another 4 with Palin. I'm sure you'll chime in about how Obama is just as dumb, which also proves my point.

I want smarter, preferably brilliant. More affluent, definitely no, but we would have to change many things about the electoral process to make it accessible to those without great big wads of cash, and it looks like there isn't enough political will for this sort of reform yet.
     
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Maybe part of the reason why we elect dumb politicians is because we want them to be like us, somebody to have a beer with?
It's a well known problem in political circles that the electorate won't vote for people more than 30 IQ points ahead of them. So you're generally stuck with presidents in charge of less than 100 points.
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Is someone truly brilliant if he or she hasn't figured out a way to use that brilliance to become rich?
     
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Is someone truly brilliant if he or she hasn't figured out a way to use that brilliance to become rich?
Depends on what they are brilliant at. And not everyone's goal is to become rich.

Book smart.
Street smart.
Business smart.
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Depends on what they are brilliant at. And not everyone's goal is to become rich.

Book smart.
Street smart.
Business smart.
Those are just different levels or types of education. Smart is smart.
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Originally Posted by hyteckit View Post
Depends on what they are brilliant at. And not everyone's goal is to become rich.

Book smart.
Street smart.
Business smart.
Just plain being happy smart.
     
 
 
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