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bobbydavro · Jan 15, 2004, 03:27 PM

Yes I know about all the things I'm going to miss, but I need to shift from 10.2.8 to 10.0. But every time I try the OS sensibly doesn't allow it. What's the fail-safe way to do this?

[APi]TheMan · Jan 15, 2004, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by bobbydavro:
Yes I know about all the things I'm going to miss, but I need to shift from 10.2.8 to 10.0. But every time I try the OS sensibly doesn't allow it. What's the fail-safe way to do this?

Boot from a 10.0 CD and format your hard drive using Disk Utility or the "Erase and Install" option. Should work.

Millennium · Jan 15, 2004, 03:35 PM

I'm afraid your only chance is probably to blow the whole drive away and reinstall. Why is it that you need to downgrade that far?

Misanthrope · Jan 15, 2004, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by Millennium:
Why is it that you need to downgrade that far?

Good god man, the whole world needs to know!

gorickey · Jan 15, 2004, 04:24 PM

Why not use the Public Beta?

Cadaver · Jan 15, 2004, 04:27 PM

I think I've got DP4 lying around somewhere if you'd like that.

SYN · Jan 15, 2004, 04:34 PM

if your computer was manufatured after 10.0 ended its life, chances are it won't work at all.

And yeah, W H Y?

[APi]TheMan · Jan 15, 2004, 04:37 PM

/me looks at his 9.2.1 install CD and raises his hand.

I installed a copy of Mac OS 1.0 on a PowerMac 6400 once. It was sweet, and I think the first thing I did was drag the startup disk to the trash. Naive little Mac OS 1.0 let me do it, accordingly unmounting the drive. Heh.

Misanthrope · Jan 15, 2004, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by bobbydavro:
Yes I know about all the things I'm going to miss, but I need to shift from 10.2.8 to 10.0. But every time I try the OS sensibly doesn't allow it. What's the fail-safe way to do this?

Wait a second, rereading the whole thread, what mac do you have?

absmiths · Jan 15, 2004, 05:23 PM

A lot of rambling and still no response from the OP.

jasong · Jan 15, 2004, 05:59 PM

I installed a copy of Mac OS 1.0 on a PowerMac 6400 once

How in the world did you do that? A PowerMac 6400 is a PowerPC based machine! Even if it wasn't, each new Mac always required an Enabler (System 7 and up) or a new version (i.e. 6.0.8).

-- Jason

[APi]TheMan · Jan 15, 2004, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by jasong:
How in the world did you do that? A PowerMac 6400 is a PowerPC based machine! Even if it wasn't, each new Mac always required an Enabler (System 7 and up) or a new version (i.e. 6.0.8).

-- Jason

Ah-hah! My memory fails me; I installed 1.0 on an SE/30 and it wouldn't load on the PowerMac. Thanks.

Terri · Jan 15, 2004, 07:48 PM

My coffee maker ran 10.0 great, but I couldn't get it to install in my bidet.

sniffer · Jan 15, 2004, 08:05 PM

Hardly anything runs under 10.0 anymooore.. Where's my Panther cd?

(My conclusion after a few boring and careless hours in the recent christmas holidays)

SMacTech · Jan 15, 2004, 08:17 PM

This has to be billy and liz reincarnated doing another scientific study on regression.

Podolsky · Jan 15, 2004, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by Terri:
My coffee maker ran 10.0 great, but I couldn't get it to install in my bidet.

I don't get it.

Cadaver · Jan 15, 2004, 09:00 PM

Originally posted by absmiths:
A lot of rambling and still no response from the OP.

The fact that it was post #1 for him (and still on #1), odds are that he wont be back.

awaspaas · Jan 16, 2004, 12:22 AM

He's probably reading 10.0 off the system requirements of some dumbass software box.

dtriska · Jan 16, 2004, 12:51 AM

Originally posted by awaspaas:
He's probably reading 10.0 off the system requirements of some dumbass software box.

LOL!

bobbydavro · Jan 16, 2004, 07:10 AM

Originally posted by absmiths:
A lot of rambling and still no response from the OP.

I've got a dual processor G4... I've tried booting from the OS disc (set startup to CD, hold down C) - doesn't like it. OS 9 used to let you boot, then wipe the hard drive with a disk utility.
Actually this is one of those silly machines that you have to use a keyboard command to eject the CD - great except when you're in Classic, when it doesn't work or when the machine's showing an unhappy mac icon...

bobbydavro · Jan 16, 2004, 07:16 AM

Originally posted by absmiths:
A lot of rambling and still no response from the OP.

I've got a dual processor G4... I've tried booting from the OS disc (set startup to CD, hold down C) - doesn't like it. OS 9 used to let you boot, then wipe the hard drive with a disk utility.
Actually this is one of those silly machines that you have to use a keyboard command to eject the CD - great except when you're in Classic, when it doesn't work or when the machine's showing an unhappy mac icon...

CharlesS · Jan 16, 2004, 08:10 AM

Originally posted by bobbydavro:
I've got a dual processor G4... I've tried booting from the OS disc (set startup to CD, hold down C) - doesn't like it. OS 9 used to let you boot, then wipe the hard drive with a disk utility.

It could be that your machine is too recent to run 10.0. Why do you want to run 10.0, anyway?

Actually this is one of those silly machines that you have to use a keyboard command to eject the CD - great except when you're in Classic, when it doesn't work or when the machine's showing an unhappy mac icon...

You can eject the CD by holding down the CD eject button on startup.

The Placid Casual · Jan 16, 2004, 08:43 AM

Originally posted by CharlesS:
It could be that your machine is too recent to run 10.0. Why do you want to run 10.0, anyway?

You can eject the CD by holding down the CD eject button on startup.

I believe that holding the mouse button on startup also works... well, it did on my cube.

Peace,

Marc

Millennium · Jan 16, 2004, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by jasong:
How in the world did you do that? A PowerMac 6400 is a PowerPC based machine! Even if it wasn't, each new Mac always required an Enabler (System 7 and up) or a new version (i.e. 6.0.8).

My guess is that an emulator was involved. Either that, or it's just a joke.

absmiths · Jan 16, 2004, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by The Placid Casual:
I believe that holding the mouse button on startup also works... well, it did on my cube.

Peace,

Marc

Yeah, I have always used the mouse button and it works fine.

absmiths · Jan 16, 2004, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by bobbydavro:
I've got a dual processor G4...

Of all the posts in this thread, you replied to mine (twice)?

bradoesch · Jan 16, 2004, 03:14 PM

Originally posted by [APi]TheMan:
Ah-hah! My memory fails me; I installed 1.0 on an SE/30 and it wouldn't load on the PowerMac. Thanks.

1.0 runs on an SE/30? I must try this...

krisneph · Jan 16, 2004, 03:50 PM

last time on a restart I held down E and then command E and It opened the drive. I don't know which one actually worked(E or command E)

Sarc · Jan 16, 2004, 05:21 PM

your Mac is probably too new for 10.0. You might want to check that.

[APi]TheMan · Jan 16, 2004, 10:42 PM

Originally posted by bradoesch:
1.0 runs on an SE/30? I must try this...

Yes please. Put my memory to the test, let's get to the bottom of this. ahah

qnxde · Jan 17, 2004, 07:29 AM

a Mac SE is a 16mhz '030, basically identical to the IIcx except not as expandable, and built in display. I don't think the IIcx can run anything < 6.01.

AJ · Jan 17, 2004, 07:48 AM

Originally posted by bradoesch:
1.0 runs on an SE/30? I must try this...

The SE/30 was a total beast. I wanted that machine bad...

bradoesch · Jan 17, 2004, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by AJ:
The SE/30 was a total beast. I wanted that machine bad...

Every time I fire one up I think about it being fast in it's day. Today all my classic Macs feel the same.

Angus_D · Jan 18, 2004, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by gorickey:
Why not use the Public Beta?

I think that might have expired by now...

ryaxnb · Jan 18, 2004, 12:13 PM

Originally posted by Angus_D:
I think that might have expired by now...

You can still play with it though - simply set the date to October 2000.

tooki · Jan 18, 2004, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by [APi]TheMan:
Ah-hah! My memory fails me; I installed 1.0 on an SE/30 ...

No, you didn't.

The SE/30 requires System 6.0.5-7.5.5.

You didn't run it on an SE, either, since it requires System 2.0.

In fact, the only Macs that can run anything earlier than System 1.1 are the Mac 512K (not the 512Ke) and the Mac 128K.

tooki

coolmacdude · Jan 18, 2004, 04:22 PM

This guy is crazy. What possible reason would you have to run 10.0? Especially on that Mac.

CharlesS · Jan 18, 2004, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by tooki:
In fact, the only Macs that can run anything earlier than System 1.1 are the Mac 512K (not the 512Ke) and the Mac 128K.

Well, that would explain why I can't get anything older than System 1.1 to run in vMac, since it emulates a Mac Plus. Thanks...

CharlesS · Jan 18, 2004, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by coolmacdude:
This guy is crazy. What possible reason would you have to run 10.0? Especially on that Mac.

I suppose it is possible that he is developing an app and wants to make it compatible with 10.0. However, this is one case in which the cost/benefit ratio doesn't seem all that high - you'd be doing a lot of extra work just to accommodate a userbase of probably about three people, if that.

Basically, for most purposes 10.1 is the same thing as 10.0, only usable.