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Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Oct 24, 2004, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by spacefreak:
And let'e not forget Enrique Iglesias's great voice, as taped from his microphone by a technician during a live, lip-synched performance of his in Poland.

My lord I hope that is not real.

OwlBoy · Oct 24, 2004, 08:51 PM

Originally posted by spacefreak:
And let'e not forget Enrique Iglesias's great voice, as taped from his microphone by a technician during a live, lip-synched performance of his in Poland.

HAHAHHA

Yeah, there are like no artists that have live CDs these days...

-Owl

spacefreak · Oct 24, 2004, 09:03 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
My lord I hope that is not real.

Well, this isn't the voice that the audience heard. So 'real' is relative.

To be fair, Enrique likely didn't have any monitoring to assist him (there was no need for monitors - the perfect vocal track was being pumped in), so he couldn't hear what he was singing into the microphone. Those who've performed vocals with an ensemble know how important monitors are.

Zimphire · Oct 24, 2004, 09:06 PM

Yeah, when I was in a band and my monitor would go out I had a hard time playing the guitar let a lone vocal chords.

When you can't hear yourself it is difficult to perform up to par.

ManOfSteal · Oct 24, 2004, 09:15 PM

This incident was by far the funniest skit of the night as well...

Zimphire · Oct 24, 2004, 09:16 PM

Yeah it was. Usually I flip the channel when the musical guest is lame. I am glad I was preoccupied with arguing with Bekah at the time.

businezguy · Oct 24, 2004, 09:23 PM

I thought she was trying to perform "the monkey" with her dance moves.

Xeo · Oct 24, 2004, 09:26 PM

FAH!!

(funny as hell)

shmerek · Oct 24, 2004, 10:10 PM

Holy crap that enrique was painful

Lancer409 · Oct 24, 2004, 10:10 PM

Originally posted by legacyb4:
Ugly and chunky...

So what does the "band playing the wrong song" excuse the fact that she still lip s(t)yncs...?

it doesnt... she's trying to use it to excuse the "hoe down" lol

methodshop · Oct 24, 2004, 11:40 PM

Originally posted by TETENAL:
Never heard of this artist.

Consider yourself lucky! Ashlee is Jessica Simpson's sister.

I'm so happy Ashlee got busted lip-synching on SNL this weekend. Remember when Milli-Vanilli got busted. It was a different day back then. Milli-Vanilli lost their Grammy award and one of them (Milli I think) commited suicide.

Now every pop star lip-syncs and gets away with it -- like Ashlee's sister Jessica, and Britney.

Here's wrire up (and video) about her messing up on SNL:
http://www.methodshop.net/music/articles/ashlee/

MindFad · Oct 24, 2004, 11:43 PM

I lawled thoroughly.

pathogen · Oct 24, 2004, 11:54 PM

I watched this happen saturday night, sunday morning. The first song and the second part where it flubbed. NOT MILLI-VANILLI.

It is not what people are saying, her mic was live, and Ashlee is probably right that the band f*cked it up, or at least it seems so to me.

I watched the first song never having heard it before except once or twice where I've caught the beginning on the radio and changed the channel. On SNL, the song had a repeating part where she was performing it with a doubled vocal (which was softly sung on tape and louder with her live singing), but only for a particular refrain and not the whole song. She did have an ear piece to hear her voice better, and there was a moment where she fiddled with her ear as if it was falling out. I've had singers need audio in their ear all the time, because the stage monitors can't be loud enough, so they get audio probably from the mixing board. The rest of her song was not lip-synched. And it sucks that people want to ruin a singer by cynically guessing. Anyhow, that vocal she sings over her own voice, it comes up when her second song is supposed to start. Immediately, I recognized that someone hit the wrong preset on whatever software they use to control the samples and live audio. The band on stage just play along with it, like retards, but Ashlee sees that who ever is minding the mixing board can't stop the preset and start the right song while the band is still jamming without the right click track. She jumps off stage, cut to commercial.

I'm no Ashlee fan, but she was singing and her mic was live IMHO.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Oct 25, 2004, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by pathogen:
I watched this happen saturday night, sunday morning. The first song and the second part where it flubbed. NOT MILLI-VANILLI.

It is not what people are saying, her mic was live, and Ashlee is probably right that the band f*cked it up, or at least it seems so to me.

I w

How did her band play the wrong song with her voice and her lips not moving?

Mrjinglesusa · Oct 25, 2004, 12:16 AM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
How did her band play the wrong song with her voice and her lips not moving?

They didn't. The band was a tape too. The lead guitar starts playing before the guitarist even strums anything. Then, they just started playing along.

TheBadgerHunter · Oct 25, 2004, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
They didn't. The band was a tape too. The lead guitar starts playing before the guitarist even strums anything. Then, they just started playing along.

Watch the guy on the left an the drummer. Looks like they were indeed playing.

Mrjinglesusa · Oct 25, 2004, 12:26 AM

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Watch the guy on the left an the drummer. Looks like they were indeed playing.

I know. I thought they started AFTER the track began.

TheBadgerHunter · Oct 25, 2004, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by Mrjinglesusa:
I know. I thought they started AFTER the track began.

The drummer was either miming VERY well or was actually playing. The left guitarist.. hard to say. He takes his hand off and puts it back on just before the music starts so its hard to say.

Wonder why she didn't just go with that song.

greenamp · Oct 25, 2004, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
The drummer was either miming VERY well or was actually playing. The left guitarist.. hard to say. He takes his hand off and puts it back on just before the music starts so its hard to say.

Wonder why she didn't just go with that song.

The fact that she didn't just start singing, or stop, wait, and start over proves that she is just not in the habit of performing 100% live. If she was geniune, her instincts as a singer would have kicked in, and she would have started singing something.

Spheric Harlot · Oct 25, 2004, 06:28 AM

The piece was complete playback, including the voice. There was not supposed to be anything live about the performance. The band didn't actually start playing for real until the tech realized his mistake and turned off the playback.

-s*

Eriamjh · Oct 25, 2004, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
The piece was complete playback, including the voice. There was not supposed to be anything live about the performance. The band didn't actually start playing for real until the tech realized his mistake and turned off the playback.

-s*

Bands that are not going to perform live are not wired to play. Why would they? If they were planning on faking the whole performance, there would be no need to sound test the amps, hook up the guitars, or sound balance anything. The band was likely planned to be live, but perhaps they like to have a "backup" using tape?

She's exposed. There are no other excuses.

pathogen · Oct 25, 2004, 07:40 AM

Anyone who's played in a band live onstage with sequencing (and know about sound board on -the-fly pitch correction) in the last few years should be able to see the difference that this was a preset sequencing error. Bedroom lipsynchers themselves have no idea what double tracking and sample sequencing is and probably can't tell what's happening, hence this overblown debate.

icruise · Oct 25, 2004, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by methodshop:
Consider yourself lucky! Ashlee is Jessica Simpson's sister.

I'm so happy Ashlee got busted lip-synching on SNL this weekend. Remember when Milli-Vanilli got busted. It was a different day back then. Milli-Vanilli lost their Grammy award and one of them (Milli I think) commited suicide.

Two points. First, Milli-Vanilli is a bad comparsion, because they weren't lip-syncing to their own voices (as was presumably the case here). They had completely different (better) singers singing all of their songs. Secondly, I think it was only a suicide attempt, not actual suicide.

Silky Voice of The Gorn · Oct 25, 2004, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by pathogen:
Anyone who's played in a band live onstage with sequencing (and know about sound board on -the-fly pitch correction) in the last few years should be able to see the difference that this was a preset sequencing error. Bedroom lipsynchers themselves have no idea what double tracking and sample sequencing is and probably can't tell what's happening, hence this overblown debate.

Even if this is the case, she's still exposed for being a talentless, untrained brat. It was crass to blame the band, who, unlike the talentless Simpson, did the professional thing and played on, rather than do some weird dance and slink off stage.

legacyb4 · Oct 25, 2004, 10:26 AM

This coming spring, MTV will announce a new series:

[Artist]: Exposed

featuring your favorite non-bands syncing to the music that they really can't play.

Originally posted by Eriamjh:
She's exposed. There are no other excuses.

turtle777 · Oct 25, 2004, 10:29 AM

The best part is her spastic jumping around !

-t

RAILhead · Oct 25, 2004, 10:32 AM

Ah, come on guys, you know you'd hit it anyway:

Maury

turtle777 · Oct 25, 2004, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by RAILhead:
Ah, come on guys, you know you'd hit it anyway:

Sure !

-t

the_glassman · Oct 25, 2004, 10:45 AM

turtle777 · Oct 25, 2004, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by the_glassman:

-t

Silky Voice of The Gorn · Oct 25, 2004, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by RAILhead:
Ah, come on guys, you know you'd hit it anyway:

She's a dog.

AB^2=BCxAC · Oct 25, 2004, 11:19 AM

Originally posted by Silky Voice of The Gorn:
Even if this is the case, she's still exposed for being a talentless, untrained brat. It was crass to blame the band, who, unlike the talentless Simpson, did the professional thing and played on, rather than do some weird dance and slink off stage.

Hey, did anyone watch Ashlee's MTV series?

Where she had the whole album's recording documented on a weekly show that ran over a few months? Where you see her f*ck up sometimes, and other times sing just fine? And how she got involved in the production alot more than most 18 year-olds would?

No, you didn't?

So, in case you need a clue, she's already exposed herself as being coddled and marginally talented, and it didn't matter then.

In the meanwhile, Courtney Love walks the streets and somehow it's better to pick on this Ashlee Simpson because she represents, I guess, the evils of society.

Uh, ok.

SeSawaya · Oct 25, 2004, 11:21 AM

lets not forget pitch correctors! Britney uses those ALL the time to get her in tune.

Lip syncing, bah, its been done for 40 years. (the Beatles for example on TV) Now I hope more people learn from this and STOP DOING IT!

cjrivera · Oct 25, 2004, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by Silky Voice of The Gorn:
She's a dog.

... but I notice you didn't say that would stop you from "hitting it".

Silky Voice of The Gorn · Oct 25, 2004, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by cjrivera:
... but I notice you didn't say that would stop you from "hitting it".

Well she is less skanky than her sister, I'll concede that

spacefreak · Oct 25, 2004, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by SeSawaya:
lets not forget pitch correctors! Britney uses those ALL the time to get her in tune.

I actually give performers like Britney, Madonna, Janet Jackson, etc. a little slack with this due to the fact that their performances (and concerts) include a sh-tload of hard-core dancing. For them it's would be like singing while running a marathon.

Landos Mustache · Oct 25, 2004, 12:36 PM

Originally posted by the_glassman:

Hilarious

euchomai · Oct 25, 2004, 12:46 PM

Originally posted by Icruise:
Two points. First, Milli-Vanilli is a bad comparsion, because they weren't lip-syncing to their own voices (as was presumably the case here). They had completely different (better) singers singing all of their songs. Secondly, I think it was only a suicide attempt, not actual suicide.

According to his "official website" http://www.fabricemorvan.com/mv_bio.html there was an attempt and a very suspicious mix of drugs and alcohol later in Germany that caused his death.

the_glassman · Oct 25, 2004, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by AB^2=BCxAC:
Hey, did anyone watch Ashlee's MTV series?

No, I stopped watching MTV when they stopped playing music videos.

turtle777 · Oct 25, 2004, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by the_glassman:
No, I stopped watching MTV when they stopped playing music videos.

*sigh*

The good old days of MTV...

-t

Landos Mustache · Oct 25, 2004, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by euchomai:
According to his "official website" http://www.fabricemorvan.com/mv_bio.html there was an attempt and a very suspicious mix of drugs and alcohol later in Germany that caused his death.

God can't any celebrity die without it being suspicious or having some sort of conspiracy?

unkle_brains · Oct 25, 2004, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
She is, and so is her older sister.

are you blind? i'm not a fan of her music but jessica simpson is teh hawt!

Atomic Rooster · Oct 25, 2004, 02:47 PM

Buncha men arguing over kiddie music made for 13 year old nymphets...

WTF next?

AB^2=BCxAC · Oct 25, 2004, 02:53 PM

Okay - The truth (courtesy MTV interview today):

She partially lip-synched. She was singing with a live mic over a backing pre-recorded vocal, so that when she felt her voice was going to give out, she could just go silent. Because she was exhausted. She apologizes.

Zimphire · Oct 25, 2004, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by RAILhead:
Ah, come on guys, you know you'd hit it anyway:

Yeah probably. But she isn't "Hollywood" good looking. We aren't talking Halle Barry.

Zimphire · Oct 25, 2004, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by SeSawaya:
lets not forget pitch correctors! Britney uses those ALL the time to get her in tune.

Yup, no need to lip sync when you have a processor that changes your out of tune notes to perfect pitch.

That can come in handy, but it should never replace talent.

RAILhead · Oct 25, 2004, 04:40 PM

Did someone say Jessica Simpson?

Don't deny it guys, you'd hit that, too.

Maury

Landos Mustache · Oct 25, 2004, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by RAILhead:
Did someone say Jessica Simpson?

Don't deny it guys, you'd hit that, too.

Maury

I'm denying it!

xi_hyperon · 05:09 PM

Ashley doing Yakety Sax:

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.p...ashlee_sax.wmv

turtle777 · Oct 25, 2004, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
Ashley doing Yakety Sax:

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.p...ashlee_sax.wmv

Mwahahaha

-t