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surferboy · Jan 9, 2005, 10:29 AM

Did a little searching already, and there does not seem to be a whole lot on the Treo 650 experience thus far. So here ya go. Let's get the ball rolling.

I bought the phone yesterday, read reviews afterward- some good, some bad. I won't go into a long dissertation on my thoughts at this point. But, a few things to discuss so far. It does not seem to work with iSync. I was able to set it up to transfer my contacts from Address Book to the phone via Bluetooth just by using the Palm software and iSync Conduit, etc., but most of my contacts did not actually transfer.

I hastily bought Missing Sync- and it actually seemed to transfer over all my contacts using Bluetooth. But, I still cannot seem to use iSync alone to do the transfer.

I have a general PDA question: I have read several times not to sync with more than one computer, but I sort of need to. I keep most of my contacts, address book info on my mac at home, but my calender is at work on Lotus notes. So, I'd like to sync contacts on my mac and schedule on PC at work. Anyone have experience with this?

That's it for now. Any other input or experiences with the unit are welcome. By the way, the rest of the experience with the phone has been very nice so far: nice screen, smooth interface, works pretty well with phone hands-free system, etc.

Thanks.

ajprice · Jan 9, 2005, 11:08 AM

I don't think its good to sync with 2 different computers. If you have .mac, you might be able to sync the Treo only with your computer at home, then sync your work computer with your .mac account instead of the Treo.

Apple's iSync devices page has a picture of a Treo at the top, and Handspring PDA devices are listed, but the 650 might be properly included in the next update.
http://www.apple.com/isync/devices.html

MikeD · Jan 9, 2005, 04:50 PM

Also, not all devices use isync alone. Some need missing sync. I use missing sync with my treo 600.

Mike

JHromadka · Jan 9, 2005, 05:20 PM

If you're going to sync in multiple locations, be careful. It can work, but bad things can happen. Best thing to do is make use if iSync's backup feature (Devices | Backup my Data).

I found that using The Missing Sync cut down on duplicates and has other nice features (see my review), so I think it's still a good buy for you.

ChrisF · Jan 9, 2005, 07:50 PM

Originally posted by MikeD:
Also, not all devices use isync alone. Some need missing sync. I use missing sync with my treo 600.

Mike

You may also be able to use iSync with Palm Desktop without having to buy Missing Sync. I suppose it depends if you need the extra features Missing Sync provides.

maxintosh · Jan 9, 2005, 08:29 PM

No Palm device works with iSync directly. You have to install Palm Desktop and then the iSync Conduit from Apple's iSync homepage.

ChrisF · Jan 9, 2005, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by maxintosh:
No Palm device works with iSync directly. You have to install Palm Desktop and then the iSync Conduit from Apple's iSync homepage.

True. I didn't make that clear in my post. Palm Desktop and iSync do what I need with my T5 with the exception that fields such as "Birthdays" in iSync are not copied to or from the Palm.

Timothy Maxwell · Jan 10, 2005, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by surferboy:
Did a little searching already, and there does not seem to be a whole lot on the Treo 650 experience thus far. So here ya go. Let's get the ball rolling.

I bought the phone yesterday, read reviews afterward- some good, some bad. I won't go into a long dissertation on my thoughts at this point. But, a few things to discuss so far. It does not seem to work with iSync. I was able to set it up to transfer my contacts from Address Book to the phone via Bluetooth just by using the Palm software and iSync Conduit, etc., but most of my contacts did not actually transfer.

Thanks.

Has anyone been able to purchase the Treo 650 and use it with a Network other than Sprint? I have been waiting for a long time for the release of the Treo 650 to T-Mobile. Has anyone heard anything about a possible release date for T-Mobile or any other Phone Network?

ChrisF · Jan 10, 2005, 09:15 AM

Originally posted by surferboy:
I was able to set it up to transfer my contacts from Address Book to the phone via Bluetooth just by using the Palm software and iSync Conduit, etc., but most of my contacts did not actually transfer.

Do you have groups of contacts established in Address Book? iSync may default to only transferring that group. Be sure that you have iSync set to synchronize all your contacts.

JHromadka · Jan 10, 2005, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by Timothy Maxwell:
Has anyone been able to purchase the Treo 650 and use it with a Network other than Sprint? I have been waiting for a long time for the release of the Treo 650 to T-Mobile. Has anyone heard anything about a possible release date for T-Mobile or any other Phone Network?

Current one is Sprint-only, but a GSM model should be released by the end of the month.

surferboy · Jan 10, 2005, 10:02 PM

Thought I owe everyone a little follow-up. All good advice given above. My biggest problem was stupidity. I forgot that Palm OS devices can only sync using the hotsync buttom, or the hotsync function on the device.

That said, I am currently all set up. I am using missing sync to sync address book on my mac, and intellisync on my PC to sync my calender. So far, since I am not syncing the same things on the different computers, there do not seem to be any issues.

that said, I accidentally synced (sunc?) my calender on the two devices, and the mac and the treo did not seem to mind.

So far, a very nice device...

Thanks.

The Wolf · 09:12 AM

Surferboy, can you view your calendar during a call? I just read that this might not be possible - which will probably cause me to cancel my order if true???

jasong · May 17, 2005, 09:38 AM

You can on the 600, don't see why this would have changed.

And since we're dragging this topic back from the dead, I'm not sure why MikeD needs missing sync to sync his Treo, mine works fine using Palm Desktop and iSync (even better now with Tiger).

The Wolf · May 17, 2005, 09:46 AM

COOL, thanks! I forgot to ask, but can you also view your address book during a call? I am really looking forward to getting mine now. Verizon seems to indicate on their website that they may allow syncs with some new bluetooth software/firmware.

jasong · May 17, 2005, 10:05 AM

You can view the address book, but it it kind of tricky. The only way I have found to do it is to hit the menu button, and go to View > Contacts.

Very stupid interface on an otherwise incredible product. Again, this is on a 600, but I imagine it's the same on the 650.

Le Flaneur · May 23, 2005, 12:08 PM

I'm wondering who has gotten their Treo 650 GSM to work properly as a data modem over bluetooth with a PowerBook running Tiger. This worked fine for me under OS X 10.3.9, but since I upgraded to Tiger (10.4.1), I get a script error. I'm using the built-in 3G CID1 script, the same as what I used under 10.3.9.

JHromadka · May 23, 2005, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Wolf

COOL, thanks! I forgot to ask, but can you also view your address book during a call? I am really looking forward to getting mine now. Verizon seems to indicate on their website that they may allow syncs with some new bluetooth software/firmware.

Just make sure you don't press the green or red buttons, and you can switch to any application.

The Wolf · May 27, 2005, 09:04 AM

Well, I just got my Verizon Treo 650. I am happy to report that Verizon finally allows iSync to work via Bluetooth (er, for $5/mo extra)!!!

I have been waiting a long time for this so I should be a little pleased than I am. Unfortunately, I don't like the phone - at all. Oh well, off to the store to see if the Moto 710 will work...

The Wolf · May 27, 2005, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by The Wolf

...I am happy to report that Verizon finally allows iSync to work via Bluetooth

I don't believe this. I went online and signed up for Verizon Wireless Connect to get email my email pushed and ever since then, I CAN'T SYNC!!!

THIS IS MISERABLE. I reset the phone and still no go. Can ANYONE help I'm about to smash this this thing!!!

cube-dude · May 29, 2006, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by The Wolf

I don't believe this. I went online and signed up for Verizon Wireless Connect to get email my email pushed and ever since then, I CAN'T SYNC!!!

Likewise, I have the same problem with my new 650, MBP, Palm Desktop software, and Verizon. The Treo and Mac no longer sync after signing up for Verizon Wireless Sync for e-mail purposes.

The Mac data is getting "stale" since I have resorted to only updating the Verizon site (which is handy btw) or the Treo itself, which syncs. Worse, Verizon only keeps 31 days worth of calendar data on the Treo and on the Web (and there doesn't seem to be a setting option to change it).

Help? Ideas?

Dr. DDS · May 31, 2006, 01:52 PM

hey, i posted a thread in aplications foruns with a easy way to export contacts from palm desktop to adress book. It's not a sync, but i think it helps a lot, well, it helped me...
http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.php?t=297255

Hirogen · Jun 9, 2006, 01:07 PM

I had a powerbook that synced fine with my Treo 650. It was stolen. (another story)

My replacement macbook won't sync as a modem with the Treo. I've tried all the instructions from apple and also Sprint. I get the pairing and code word stuff OK, but when I hit the connect button, I get the "no device available" type message.

Help!!!

SMacSteve · Jun 14, 2006, 08:29 PM

I use Missing Sync for Palm on my Treo 650 and it works great! I'd suggest that you choose one Mac to do the sync with and then let .Mac keep the data between the two computers up to date. This works pretty well for me.