[Funny Bugga]

Just wondering, you start seeing someone, get a long really well.

If she wants to root you on the first night, do you think she's a whore, or that you're lucky?

If you don't get it on for a few weeks: too quick or too slow?

If several months pass and she doesn't wanna get busy: fridget or good values?

If she wants to wait till marriage: You ditch her, or you respect her opinion.

What is your opinion on the issue?

[Sherwin]

I personally like to wait a little. But...

I recall a survey once that stated something like 60% of women will sleep with a guy they're interested in within 24 hours.

[zigzag]

Originally posted by Funny Bugga:
If she wants to root you on the first night, do you think she's a whore, or that you're lucky?

Yes.

[Cipher13]

Oh. I thought you meant, like... within the next 10 minutes? 10 hours? Etc...

Well, it all depends on the girl.

Most girls who will sleep with you after a day are fscking whores. There are exceptions; if you've known a girl for years and years, and have always been close, and something materialises all of a sudden, that's very different. It all depends...

But eh, if after a month there's nothin'? That's a bit odd. Very odd. After two or three months? Totally frigid.

Maybe that's just good values, but either way... same result. Not getting laid. Not cool.

[OptimusG4]

I say if she's willing to put out, be willing to take it

[Face Ache]

Sleeping with people you have just met is a fast way to complicate your life. It's like psycho-bitch-from-hell roulette.






Unless they're totally hot, of course.

[sniffer]

Oh. And I thought the topic was for a poll.

[suprz]

"if she dont put out, she dont go out"

[dampeoples]

I say it depends, on how long you knew her, things like that.
I try to not generalize women for 'sleeping around', first date or not. We all like to get some. Especially me.

[pooka]

Originally posted by zigzag:
Yes.

[Misanthrope]

Originally posted by Cipher13:
Oh. I thought you meant, like... within the next 10 minutes? 10 hours? Etc...

Well, it all depends on the girl.

Most girls who will sleep with you after a day are fscking whores. There are exceptions; if you've known a girl for years and years, and have always been close, and something materialises all of a sudden, that's very different. It all depends...

But eh, if after a month there's nothin'? That's a bit odd. Very odd. After two or three months? Totally frigid.

Maybe that's just good values, but either way... same result. Not getting laid. Not cool.

So between 2-30 days?

[memento]

Expect? Don't expect anything. You have to play it by ear. It depends on the relationship. I've had it happen on the first date and I've had it take almost a year. To answer your questions:

First night: lucky. If I'm willing to do it, then I've determined she's not a whore. If I think she is, then I can't use someone in that way and would turn it down.
few weeks: no big deal
months: talk about it
marriage: If you think you love her, then respect her opinion! I would never have ditched someone just because she wanted to wait. That's just shallow.

[zigzag]

Originally posted by pooka:

Look, the guy was suggesting that easy women are a bad thing.

I ran this by Heather and Bambi and they said that if a girl doesn't put out on the first date, she doesn't respect you. Don't be fooled.

[mixin visuals]

girls aren't whores. girls that are stereotyped as whores are girls i would rather be with rather than girls that intentionally make you wait for something that may or may not be worth waiting for.

if they don't want to sex you up asap then they are either dealing with self asteem problems or don't want it like you would prefer anyways.

i personally am attracted to the girls that make it known they want you from the beginning.

[11011001]

Originally posted by mixin visuals:
girls aren't whores. girls that are stereotyped as whores are girls i would rather be with rather than girls that intentionally make you wait for something that may or may not be worth waiting for.

if they don't want to sex you up asap then they are either dealing with self asteem problems or don't want it like you would prefer anyways.

i personally am attracted to the girls that make it known they want you from the beginning.

this coming from a guy who wants to be a porn star

[MisterX]

I got a HJ this year in Science class twice and i wasnt going out with her.... i was like "Were sitting at back and im getting a HJ"
Pretty funny eh? then i tried getting her to go down in french class but she was like nooooo.
lol.
Try telling me shes not easy.

[mixin visuals]

Originally posted by 11011001:
this coming from a guy who wants to be a porn star

hehehe, you are right about that!

[mixin visuals]

Originally posted by MisterX:
I got a HJ this year in Science class twice and i wasnt going out with her.... i was like "Were sitting at back and im getting a HJ"
Pretty funny eh? then i tried getting her to go down in french class but she was like nooooo.
lol.
Try telling me shes not easy.

she just wanted to see how bad you wanted her. her saying no was really saying, "Please Try Again Later" for another chance to win.

sex is a game... a fun but hard to figure out the odds game

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by mixin visuals:
i personally am attracted to the girls that make it known they want you from the beginning.

How much do they charge a regular?

-s*

[Link]

if a girl slept with me.. she'd just be.. sleeping with me?

I'm not up for the responsibilities and risks of 'plug and play technology' right about now.. if ya know what I mean...

I try to have class.. I'm not an animal and can be patient

[mrs b^3]

I was actually talking about this with one of my female friends last night. Both of us find the idea of having sex with more than one guy ever kind of, well, icky, but that's us. Both of our fianc�s had to wait 'till diamond rings on fingers first. But each to their own. Sex on the first date is a bit much though.

[Ghoser777]

Originally posted by MisterX:
I got a HJ this year in Science class twice and i wasnt going out with her.... i was like "Were sitting at back and im getting a HJ"
Pretty funny eh? then i tried getting her to go down in french class but she was like nooooo.
lol.
Try telling me shes not easy.

As an educator:



I don't remember anything that, uhm, involving happen when I was in high school, "back in my day." I start teaching in a little over a week - don't SCARE me!

Matt Fahrenbacher

[palmberg]

Originally posted by MisterX:
I got a HJ this year in Science class twice and i wasnt going out with her.... i was like "Were sitting at back and im getting a HJ"
Pretty funny eh?

I call "bull."

[Spheric Harlot]

Originally posted by Link:
I'm not up for the responsibilities and risks of 'plug and play technology' right about now.. if ya know what I mean...

I try to have class.. I'm not an animal and can be patient

So you're not gettin' any, huh?



-s*

[Dogma]

It all depends.

If you're out clubbing or whatever and you get a lumber and you don't end up in the sack then you've blown your chances. Tough.

If you know the lass, and you wanna take it "further" - i.e. go out with her, then full on shag fest on the first night might not be so cool in the long run - it's kinda like foreplay, over several nights.

I would say that if you haven't consumated a "relationship" within a week then you may find the sex will be a tad lacklustre.

On the other hand, I have a particular female friend with whom I have a pact. In any other time or place we would have bonked ourselves to death within a week, the animal magnetism is so strong, but we've always remained faithfully clothed until either of us become millionaires (or very drunk). We came very close once or twice, but we've been good. The cool thing is, it's been like three years or so, so when and if we ever do get it on, it'll be like a two month orgy with no sleep or work or anything.

Just don't tell my girlfriend...

[permanent68]

It depends on the girl. If she's a virgin, it's going to take a while. If she's not a virgin, prolly within a month. Depending.

Basically, I don't EXPECT a girl to sleep with me at all; I let them go at their own pace, and I would hope all of you do the same. I hate people who try to bargain their way into sex, thats just not cool.

- Ca$h

[Logic]

Originally posted by MisterX:
I got a HJ this year in Science class twice and i wasnt going out with her.... i was like "Were sitting at back and im getting a HJ"
Pretty funny eh? then i tried getting her to go down in french class but she was like nooooo.
lol.
Try telling me shes not easy.

No more easy than you I suppose...........

[thirsty]

if you sleep with someone on the first night you just the same as them.

How can a guy call a girl a whore just because she sleeps with him quickly. what should the girl call the guy? Does it make it ok because I'm a guy, that any woman i sleep with quickly I can call her whore, whats it make me a Pimp.

There's double standards out there folks and we all buy into it. We're all consenting adults (most of us) we choose to sleep with whom we want, and when we want.

Go with the flow you'll know when it's right!

[thirsty]

if you sleep with someone on the first night you just the same as them.

How can a guy call a girl a whore just because she sleeps with him quickly. what should the girl call the guy? Does it make it ok because I'm a guy, that any woman i sleep with quickly I can call her whore, does that then make me a Pimp.

There's double standards out there folks and we all buy into it. We're all consenting adults (most of us) we choose to sleep with whom we want, and when we want.

Go with the flow you'll know when it's right!

[BlackGriffen]

I expect a woman to sleep with me just as soon as we're done. Some women try to be insistent about that cuddling thing, which just means I haven't done a thorough job wearing her out yet.


BlackGriffen

[bojangles]

Simple: if I marry her, on our wedding night. If not, never.

Seriously, guys— even taking morality out of the equation completely, every couple I’ve ever known that got divorced (with one possible exception) had been having sex before they were married. Every couple I know that is having serious marital problems had been having sex before they were married. On the other hand, every couple I know that were virgins right up to the wedding are not only still married, but seemingly extremely happy!

My wife and I have a extremely special connection that comes from knowing that neither of us has ever “been with” anyone else. I know this sounds somewhat na�ve—I suppose no one actually plans to get divorced—but I fully expect to be with my wife not only “till death do [we] part,” (a phrase not used in a Temple wedding) but for as long as our marriage is supposed to last (eg. forever).

Believe it or not, lack of fornication/adultery does not make your penis fall off; in fact, it makes things a lot better—both in the short run and otherwise.

Just my 2�.

[Cipher13]

Originally posted by bojangles:
Simple: if I marry her, on our wedding night. If not, never.

Seriously, guys— even taking morality out of the equation completely, every couple I’ve ever known that got divorced (with one possible exception) had been having sex before they were married. Every couple I know that is having serious marital problems had been having sex before they were married. On the other hand, every couple I know that were virgins right up to the wedding are not only still married, but seemingly extremely happy!

My wife and I have a extremely special connection that comes from knowing that neither of us has ever “been with” anyone else. I know this sounds somewhat na�ve—I suppose no one actually plans to get divorced—but I fully expect to be with my wife not only “till death do [we] part,” (a phrase not used in a Temple wedding) but for as long as our marriage is supposed to last (eg. forever).

Believe it or not, lack of fornication/adultery does not make your penis fall off; in fact, it makes things a lot better—both in the short run and otherwise.

Just my 2�.

What does "morality" have to do with it? Marriage, if anything, is inherently unnatural. Not pre-marital sex.

Anyway... a vast majority of people have sex before marriage (especially nowadays), so your correlation is weak at best, if not entirely flawed.

Of course more people who have been divorced have had pre-marital sex; because more people have pre-marital sex than not.

[permanent68]

Originally posted by bojangles:
Simple: if I marry her, on our wedding night. If not, never.

Seriously, guys— even taking morality out of the equation completely, every couple I’ve ever known that got divorced (with one possible exception) had been having sex before they were married. Every couple I know that is having serious marital problems had been having sex before they were married. On the other hand, every couple I know that were virgins right up to the wedding are not only still married, but seemingly extremely happy!

That is an extremely ****ed up viewpoint, and it just shows the rest of us why brainwashing children with christianity messes with their minds. Anyway, congrats bojangles, and say hi to god when you see him for me.

- Ca$h

[nredman]

having slept with women on the first date i can say that she is a whore and so are you...then again i am sure there are alot of people who had slept together the first night and gotten married. you should wait as long as you think is best...never know what will happen. since getting married i wish i hadn't had sex with the women i had sex with. do whatever you want just remember to pull out

[nredman]

Originally posted by permanent68:
That is an extremely ****ed up viewpoint, and it just shows the rest of us why brainwashing children with christianity messes with their minds. Anyway, congrats bojangles, and say hi to god when you see him for me.

- Ca$h

i agree somewhat...i had sex before i was married and was never able to have a long relationship with those women...until i met my wife who i waited with until we were married...sex really isn't that important.

[wdlove]

I think that friendship and personality should be first, last and always. Another one that didn't have sex till my wife!

[ASIMO]

As soon as I hand her the cash.

[bojangles]

Originally posted by Cipher13:
What does "morality" have to do with it? Marriage, if anything, is inherently unnatural. Not pre-marital sex.

Well, first of all, if you read my post, my whole point was morality has nothing to do with it; it’s just common sense. As for pre-marital celibacy being unnatural, I suppose that could be argued; but are you trying to say that an 11-year-old girl should be sexually active just because she’s started having periods? Even taking morality out of it completely, there’s a maturity issue here: part of the purpose of sex is procreation. If a person is not 100% ready, willing, and able to devote the rest his or her life supporting and caring for a child (and that child’s other parent) in every conceiveable way, that person is not in a position to be having sex.

Anyway... a vast majority of people have sex before marriage (especially nowadays), so your correlation is weak at best, if not entirely flawed.
Of course more people who have been divorced have had pre-marital sex; because more people have pre-marital sex than not.

We’re talking percentages here. Furthermore, you have to remember we’re talking about my personal experience—and my interpretation thereof, at that. Pretty much everybody I know is either someone I work with, go to Church with, or live near. And in that microcosm of society, I’d say the numbers are probably slanted quite a bit in the other direction. (I know they are, among the people with whom I’ve discussed the issue.)

Aside from my personal experience, I’d be very interested to know what percentage of people actually do have pre-marital sex; I’m guessing it’s not nearly as many as Hollywood, in general, would have us believe. Most of our entertainment is coming out of one of the most liberal places on Earth, yet every day there’s another study saying the values of mainstream America have barely changed at all. (It’d sure be nice if TV would reflect that!)

Regardless, as 93.7% of people already know, 83.4% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

[bojangles]

Originally posted by permanent68:
That is an extremely ****ed up viewpoint, and it just shows the rest of us why brainwashing children with christianity messes with their minds.

Pot, kettle. Kettle, pot. Nice to meet you!

Seriously, though.... If I have been brainwashed, I’d love to know by whom. I wasn’t a Christian as a child. I mean, my parents went to church from time to time, but I certainly never cared, and stopped going with them by the time I was 12. The only reason I go now is because, at age 16, I found out that God lives.

How, you ask?

Well, actually, it’s pretty simple: I asked Him. It was a very simple conversation. I didn’t know if he was there or not, so I asked Him. (Needless to say, He responded in the affirmative. Otherwise, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.)

I talk with Him—note: not to, with Him—Him every day. Sometimes He even initiates the conversations. Yesterday, for example, I was driving down the interstate—not even conciously thinking about Him— when He told me to slow down. I did—just a bit—and when I got to my exit, a guy on the crossroad ran a stop sign. If He hadn’t said something, I would have already been making a right, and I probably wouldn’t be typing this, right now.

My beliefs are not based on what some other person has told me; they’re based on a sure knowledge that my Heavenly Father lives and loves me. I’ll be happy to say hi to him any time you want, but I’m guessing He’d rather you tell him yourself.

[Raman]

If she wants it as bad as you do then whats wrong with the first night?

Maybe you're just using your poor looks as an excuse because you're not getting it?

Just because a girl doesn't sleep with *you* on the first night (or whatever you consider "soon") doesn't mean she hasn't with some other guy(s).

[Raman]

Originally posted by bojangles:
Simple: if I marry her, on our wedding night. If not, never.

Seriously, guys— even taking morality out of the equation completely, every couple I’ve ever known that got divorced (with one possible exception) had been having sex before they were married. Every couple I know that is having serious marital problems had been having sex before they were married. On the other hand, every couple I know that were virgins right up to the wedding are not only still married, but seemingly extremely happy!

My wife and I have a extremely special connection that comes from knowing that neither of us has ever “been with” anyone else. I know this sounds somewhat na�ve—I suppose no one actually plans to get divorced—but I fully expect to be with my wife not only “till death do [we] part,” (a phrase not used in a Temple wedding) but for as long as our marriage is supposed to last (eg. forever).

Believe it or not, lack of fornication/adultery does not make your penis fall off; in fact, it makes things a lot better—both in the short run and otherwise.

Just my 2�.

OH GAWD! You are both insecure about your sexuality and take comfort in knowing the other person doesn't know how bad the sex really is because they have nothing to compare it to.

[OwlBoy]

Originally posted by Raman:
OH GAWD! You are both insecure about your sexuality and take comfort in knowing the other person doesn't know how bad the sex really is because they have nothing to compare it to.

well now thats a stupid reaction...

-Owl

[Cipher13]

Originally posted by OwlBoy:
well now thats a stupid reaction...

-Owl

Quite true, though.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by zigzag:
I ran this by Heather and Bambi and they said that if a girl doesn't put out on the first date, she doesn't respect you. Don't be fooled.

Sounds like a poor excuse to be a whore.

[Cipher13]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Sounds like a poor excuse to be a whore.

We need excuses, now?

[Zimphire]

Well I guess we could compare ourselves to dogs. You know, be at there level.

[Cipher13]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Well I guess we could compare ourselves to dogs. You know, be at there level.

Their level.

That has to be one of the stupidest comments I've ever heard. I'm sure I could argue that dogs are behaviourally superior to humans, anyway.

[Face Ache]

Originally posted by bojangles:
I talk with Him—note: not to, with Him—Him every day. Sometimes He even initiates the conversations. Yesterday, for example, I was driving down the interstate—not even conciously thinking about Him— when He told me to slow down. I did—just a bit—and when I got to my exit, a guy on the crossroad ran a stop sign. If He hadn’t said something, I would have already been making a right, and I probably wouldn’t be typing this, right now.

My beliefs are not based on what some other person has told me; they’re based on a sure knowledge that my Heavenly Father lives and loves me. I’ll be happy to say hi to him any time you want, but I’m guessing He’d rather you tell him yourself.

So your God has a separate screen just to monitor your driving? Jesus literally is your co-pilot huh? Dude.

My God is a bitch. She tells me your God laughs his arse off at you in the tearoom. She says he says he's way too busy for that shit (what with war, famine, etc) and you should watch your own frikkin' driving instead of channeling God. It seems the Middle-East peace process broke down when you popped out to the shops and God had to guide you instead of Sharon. Anyway, apparently after that episode you're on your own.

I hope you're happy.

Oh, and He hates your car too. He said you need a Volvo.

And keep your eye out for green trucks.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Cipher13:


That has to be one of the stupidest comments I've ever heard. I'm sure I could argue that dogs are behaviourally superior to humans, anyway.

You could talk out your anus about anything and make it sound like you know what your are talking about.

I know I have self control. And don't have to act upon my "emotions"

I have reason, and can make such decisions. I am not driven by my hormones.

[JakeTuba]

Originally posted by Face Ache:
So your God has a separate screen just to monitor your driving? Jesus literally is your co-pilot huh? Dude.

My God is a bitch. She tells me your God laughs his arse off at you in the tearoom. She says he says he's way too busy for that shit (what with war, famine, etc) and you should watch your own frikkin' driving instead of channeling God. It seems the Middle-East peace process broke down when you popped out to the shops and God had to guide you instead of Sharon. Anyway, apparently after that episode you're on your own.

I hope you're happy.

Oh, and He hates your car too. He said you need a Volvo.

And keep your eye out for green trucks.

Dude, you may not acknowlege Him, but He still knows how many hairs are on your head (as well as everyone elses). Hey, considering myself, that's a full time job - and we ain't talking rogaine here...

Honestly, the man was asked his opinion and he gave it. Why do you have to go and dog him out just because he said what he believed? Who's the real idiot here?

Funny Bugga - As long as it's legal and consentual, that should be determined between the couple. If you ask me, the most important thing is communication and you should really be discussing this with the individual instead of asking this sorry lot for their opinions. But, of course, that's just IMHO.