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Switch to Intel allowing for broader peripheral base???
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cspuryear
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Jun 23, 2005, 10:38 AM
 
I know it still depends on the OS, but do you think the standardization of peripherals like BT mice/keyboards, etc...... will occur for the mac once the Intel switch occurs?

Then more support from M$ and Logitech, etc..?

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Jun 23, 2005, 11:53 AM
 
Err... No. The only thing that prevents a device from working with a Mac is its drivers, which, unless the device maker is using some assembly code in its drivers, will not make it any easier to write Mac drivers.
     
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Jun 23, 2005, 12:09 PM
 
Originally Posted by cspuryear
I know it still depends on the OS, but do you think the standardization of peripherals like BT mice/keyboards, etc...... will occur for the mac once the Intel switch occurs?

Then more support from M$ and Logitech, etc..?

Just Thursday ramblings...
No, because drivers are all that matter, not the chipset.

For a while, it's likely there will be less peripheral support on Intel than on PowerPC, simply because drivers WILL have to be rewritten to work on the new platform (as opposed to applications, which can be emulated or migrated via clicking a single button in Xcode -- drivers will require some actual low-level recoding).
     
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Jun 23, 2005, 05:22 PM
 
...though I think a lot of Firewire and USB devices won't require much work, right, because they're targeting the bus protocol rather than peculiarities of the CPU and chipset? don't really know but that's my impression.
     
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Jun 25, 2005, 09:25 PM
 
Does that have anything to do with Open Firmware? If the Intel Macs use BIOS or whatever from Intel, will FireWire peripherals still work, or will FireWire and USB capabilities be unchanged?
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Jun 25, 2005, 10:10 PM
 
Originally Posted by cspuryear
I know it still depends on the OS, but do you think the standardization of peripherals like BT mice/keyboards, etc...... will occur for the mac once the Intel switch occurs?
WTF ?

You already know it has nothing to do with the hardware, so why do you ask ?
Do you think that the hardware mfg. will suddenly start writing drivers for sentimental reasons, because Apple now uses Intel ?

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Jun 26, 2005, 11:02 AM
 
Originally Posted by Scooterboy
Does that have anything to do with Open Firmware? If the Intel Macs use BIOS or whatever from Intel, will FireWire peripherals still work, or will FireWire and USB capabilities be unchanged?
FireWire/USB bootability depends entirely on the boot firmware Apple ends up using. I'd be very surprised if they used old-fashioned BIOS in their final Intel hardware.

Other than being to boot from them, FireWire and USB won't be affected.


The only peripherals that stand to benefit from the switch are PCI cards that use DMA, things like graphics cards, since they have to match the endianness of their host CPU. Mac PCI card vendors will no longer have to alter their PC cards in this respect.

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