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Hi
I need to use microsoft front page for one of my projects at university. However, I understand that there is no mac OS X version available, and also understadn that there are no plans to make one avaiuable.
I have seen on ebay version 1.0 which requires classic mode to be used. I am considering buying an old version like this, so that I dont need to use virtual pc. However, can anybody confirm whether this incluldes the majory of features found in more recent features, or is it incredibly out of date?
Does anybbody know if there are any plans to make a versioln available in the future?
Tnanks for your help!
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Any version of FrontPage is a POS, but the earlier versions are especially horrible. Bad syntax, awful HTML, incorrectly nested tags, etc....
Why not just learn HTML and CSS?
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Frontpage 1.0, the one for Mac OS, is very much out of date. That version is an infamous one that breaks good code and replaces it with stuff that only works on MS serves with all of the insecure features (eg the original ASP) enabled and left in the most insecure mode possible. Anything but the most trivial code requires the use of deprecated insecure MS functions. Do not use. Ever.
Frontpage for Windows is by far the worst HTML editor on the market today, but it's at least not as insecure as 1.0. Investigate if you absolutely have to use such a horrible program and why. If you really really do, then use VPC.
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is this some kind of joke? 
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Do a search on Dreamweaver or Adobe GoLive. And you'll find out that these are the industry standard tools on both platforms.
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Originally Posted by jamesl
Hi
I need to use microsoft front page for one of my projects at university. However, I understand that there is no mac OS X version available, and also understadn that there are no plans to make one avaiuable.
I used Frontpage on Windows years ago and I support the others opinions: It is a very bad tool.
BBedit has nice html support build in and has the advantage that you work with the html code instead of dragging and dropping text and pictures. Thus you can start with little html/css knowledge and you will become better and better while building your sites, because you work directly with the code.
This way of working is the best in my opinion. You control the quality of the code but the tool does the annoying work for you.
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Originally Posted by jamesl
Hi
I need to use microsoft front page for one of my projects at university. However, I understand that there is no mac OS X version available, and also understadn that there are no plans to make one avaiuable.
I have seen on ebay version 1.0 which requires classic mode to be used. I am considering buying an old version like this, so that I dont need to use virtual pc. However, can anybody confirm whether this incluldes the majory of features found in more recent features, or is it incredibly out of date?
Does anybbody know if there are any plans to make a versioln available in the future?
Tnanks for your help!
I've never used version 1 of the mac flavor but I can almost guarantee it will not have the tools you need to use. While others mentioned that its a POS and golive/dreamweaver are better. If you need to use it for a project then I'd say go one of two routes. Pick up a really cheap pc or buy vpc for your mac. VPC may be too slow and for a little more money you can probably buy a pc.
To be honest I used frontpage (pc version) a long time ago and it did what I needed it to do, I now use go live and I've been happy with that. Cleaner html, better ability to do what I want it to do, not what front page wants to do.
good luck
Mike
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Yup, what Mike said. Go Live is good (I've heard), but I personally use Dreamweaver. I got used to it on the PC end, and when I got my Mac, it was just that much easier of a transition sticking with dreamweaver.
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try Nvu, its a free wysiwyg html editor. Not to the standard of Dreamweaver, but good enough given the price... and streets ahead of frontpage.
http://www.nvu.com/
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Originally Posted by jamesl
Hi
I need to use microsoft front page for one of my projects at university. However, I understand that there is no mac OS X version available, and also understadn that there are no plans to make one avaiuable.
I have seen on ebay version 1.0 which requires classic mode to be used. I am considering buying an old version like this, so that I dont need to use virtual pc. However, can anybody confirm whether this incluldes the majory of features found in more recent features, or is it incredibly out of date?
Does anybbody know if there are any plans to make a versioln available in the future?
Thanks for your help!
I WOULD BUY VPC To Extend the range of what you can do software wise,
you would have 2 of the worlds most famous OS's on your 1 MAC!!!!
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Admin Emeritus  Join Date: Oct 1999
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I don't see the point of spending money to be able to run the Worst HTML Editor Known To Man when there are superb native applications out there.
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What I don't understand is why companies and some "Web Designers" INSIST on still using Frontpage for web development. It's Crap.
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Oh, and if they tell you FunkPage is an absolute requirement, just take a look at what headers it embeds and copy them over to the code you've produced in a superior application. 
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Do you actually have to use FrontPage? As in, is it part of the instructions for the project? If not, then there are many other options available to you, including just hand-coding the HTML.
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This looks at first glance like a "let's bash FrontPage" thread. It is, and it should be. FrontPage is a terrible tool because among other things it doesn't even emit vaguely standard HTML. An extremely simple "Hello World" type web page (maybe 10 lines including verbose comments in standard HTML) can take up scores of lines of code and incolve tons of stupid, unnecessary stuff.
There are free options, the simplest of which is using a basic text editor and your web browser-create in the editor, save, and then preview in the browser. Everything else is "ease of use" gravy. Choose ANY other tool than FrontPage, but insist that it produce STANDARD HTML.
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FrontPage *snort* for  Mac.
*spills milk all over the keyboard*
But seriously: NO!
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Not to be snide, but (out of curiousity) is there really a "University" that uses Front Page? Can't possibly be an IS Dept course, can it?
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Originally Posted by Love Calm Quiet
Not to be snide, but (out of curiousity) is there really a "University" that uses Front Page? Can't possibly be an IS Dept course, can it?
I doubt this is likely, unless the teacher is really bad and wont learn another tool.
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Any course that demands you use Front page is a course you need to ask for your money back on.
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Originally Posted by moonmonkey
I doubt this is likely, unless the teacher is really bad and wont learn another tool.
I had such classes... where the teacher would require us to use OLD non-standard applications. She and I would constantly argue because she would have inaccurate information in her notes.
She FORCED us to use M$ Paint for a project... and M$ Publisher (ICK) and wouldn't let us use Photoshop or Quark.
Small minded IMHO.
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