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monitorpop
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Apr 18, 2007, 04:54 PM
 
Well, a few days ago I was about to hit submit on custom configured Mac Pro at the Apple store when I decided to to a little research here. I'm glad I took the time because it saved me over $1000 in lower cost RAM & HD, Amazon rebate and no sales tax. Here is the breakdown:

From APPLE:
$2499.00 - 2.66 Mac Pro
$ 699.00 - 4GB RAM
$ 658.00 - 2x 500GB hard drives (in addition to 250GB default)
$ 29.00 - Bluetooth
$ 233.10 - Tax
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$4118.10 - TOTAL

From 3rd Parties:
$2349.99 - 2.66 Mac Pro (From Amazon w/ $150 rebate)
$ 474.94 - 4GB RAM (From OWC, in addition to 1GB default)
$ 259.98 - 2x 500GB - Western Digital Hard Drives (From New Egg, in addition to 250GB default)
$ 30.00 - Bluetooth (From Fast Mac)
$ 0.00 - Tax
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$3114.91 - TOTAL

That is a $1003.19 savings and I get an extra 1GB of RAM, plus the Warranty 3 years on the HD and Life on the RAM. Just thought I would post so other people take a second look at doing the custom configuration on their own. Note: I originally wanted 2 750GB drives but after reading problems with the Seagate 7200.10 I changed my mind.


Links product purchased in case it helps:

Mac Pro
Amazon.com: Apple Mac Pro MA356LL/A Desktop PC (Two 2.66 GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon Processors, 1 GB RAM, 250 GB Hard Drive, SuperDrive): Computers & PC Hardware

RAM
Mac Pro Memory - Mac Pro Quad Xeon Memory, Mac Pro 8-Core Xeon Memory DDR2 667MHz Fully Buffered 240 Pin DIMM PC5300 Upgrades at OtherWorldComputing.com

Hard Drive:
Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM

Bluetooth:
FastMac | Product - Bluetooth, Live Wirelessly
     
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Apr 18, 2007, 05:14 PM
 
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Apr 18, 2007, 05:37 PM
 
congrats!

Yep, apple usually is more expensive...
     
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Apr 18, 2007, 06:29 PM
 
So's tax. Not paying tax on a $3000 to $4000 system really helps.
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Apr 18, 2007, 06:40 PM
 
I didn't mind paying a little more for the convenience but I never expected such a large premium.
     
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Apr 18, 2007, 10:54 PM
 
For me it is cheaper to buy direct from Apple (at least for the base system and FCS2). But then again I am eligible for education discounts.
     
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Apr 18, 2007, 11:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by bballe336 View Post
For me it is cheaper to buy direct from Apple (at least for the base system and FCS2). But then again I am eligible for education discounts.
Everybody is eligible for education discounts.
     
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Apr 19, 2007, 08:03 AM
 
I don't think everybody is eligible. You have to submit university registration or faculty ID info here in Japan. Isn't it the same everywhere?
     
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Apr 19, 2007, 08:15 AM
 
Nice man... but I just like to buy from apple I dont know why I just do...
     
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Apr 19, 2007, 07:06 PM
 
Thats cool, but what do you do if you want to get the upgraded ATI x1900xt? Amazon doesn't seem to allow the upgrade.
     
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Apr 19, 2007, 09:06 PM
 
Thats good, but your missing one thing!

APPLECARE , hate to lose a motherboard in that thing
     
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Apr 19, 2007, 09:21 PM
 
Originally Posted by toobiloo View Post
Thats cool, but what do you do if you want to get the upgraded ATI x1900xt? Amazon doesn't seem to allow the upgrade.
You can still get that from a 3rd party such as MacMall for less than $400. Yes that is $150 more than doing through Apple but the $150 Amazon rebate covers that and your still ahead $233 in tax, plus any other upgrades you want. Plus you might be able to sell the default video card on eBay.
     
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Apr 19, 2007, 09:30 PM
 
Originally Posted by j03 View Post
Thats good, but your missing one thing!

APPLECARE , hate to lose a motherboard in that thing
I'm tempted by the piece of mind, but they sell them for a reason and that is because the majority of people cash in less than they paid. Of course the logic board could go out and cost me $750 but the chances are slim. Even if I had a major issue it would equal out since I didn't buy AppleCare on my last three Macs and never had a problem.

Besides, I still have a year to change my mind.
     
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Apr 19, 2007, 09:32 PM
 
Tax is the biggest savings ordering from not-Apple. RAM from anyone else saves a sh*tload. If you are willing to do the shopping around, you can save a lot of a pricey system.

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Apr 19, 2007, 09:42 PM
 
Of course not paying the taxes on your online purcheses is a crime but that doesn't seem to bother some people.
     
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Apr 19, 2007, 09:50 PM
 
Uh…what? If you're not subject to any sales tax, how is not paying it a crime?
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Apr 19, 2007, 09:50 PM
 
Depends. In oregon there is no sales tax
     
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Apr 19, 2007, 10:41 PM
 
Companys are only allowed to charge tax if they have stores in your state. If they dont have a physical store then no tax applies.
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Apr 20, 2007, 06:57 AM
 
Correct, thats why your supposed to file with the state and pay the tax yourself. NH has no sales tax either. MA cops routinely bust people at the border for illegally importing things like alcohol into MA.
     
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Apr 20, 2007, 03:40 PM
 
In canada, you are stuck from buying either apple or retail...who wants retail...?

You can try ebay, but usually involves heavy duties/taxes/etc...
     
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Apr 22, 2007, 09:23 AM
 
What about a refurbished macpro? The base models are $100 cheaper than a similar new Macpro w/ the education discount. Is it worth the $100 for a new mac or are the refurbs as good as new, and I'll forget someone else had it as soon as I turn it on?
Also, if I get the MacPro with 1gb of ram and then get a 2gb kit, can I install all 3gb of ram and still have matched sets?
     
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Originally Posted by toobiloo View Post
What about a refurbished macpro?
Also, if I get the MacPro with 1gb of ram and then get a 2gb kit, can I install all 3gb of ram and still have matched sets?
My first Mac was a refurb G5 iMac, and have had no problems [hears sound of knocking on wood], but for a $100, I'd get a new machine...

I'm running 3 GB: 2 x 1GB sticks on one tier, stock 2 x 512 sticks on t'other...

WRT saving some $$$ on AppleCare: you CAN buy AppleCare from 3rd party dealers. Apple even has two different part numbers for the AC cds, though they are identical. I have bought AC twice now (paid $100 each time for a PM and MP AppleCare) from King Pawn - Serving Southern Maryland and Washington, DC and NO I do not work for them... The last time I bought AC from them, the key had been used or hacked, but they simply replaced it for me immediately and provided another key over the phone which worked.
     
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Apr 28, 2007, 04:56 AM
 
nice, i just did the same thing on a similar spec
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Apr 28, 2007, 07:49 AM
 
I recently had a G5 tower go down hard and the price to replace the parts replaced
would have been $3000.

It's actually down again so I need to call them again but if I had to pay $3k for
a repair I would have been out of business and back to my G4 and would have had
to sell the carcass of the G5 on ebay or something.

Applecare = well worth it.
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Apr 28, 2007, 08:09 PM
 
All my purchases have extended warranties when I use my VISA card.

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May 3, 2007, 07:33 PM
 
Originally Posted by bballe336 View Post
For me it is cheaper to buy direct from Apple (at least for the base system and FCS2). But then again I am eligible for education discounts.
Between not having to pay $200 in sales tax (Ca.) and a $200 Amazon rebate, I got my base system for less $200 than the education discount would have gotten me. Plus, Amazon had to ship it overnight for $5 because they gave me a free Prime membership.
     
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May 5, 2007, 05:39 AM
 
Presumably, the new G5 was purchased with the stock video card?

I'm not sure if it's cheaper to buy stock, and then buy the XT and drop that video card inside. The stock card will be written off as a loss and probably harder to sell? That's sadly what happened with my macbook 256 dimms.
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May 6, 2007, 02:43 PM
 
Another choice: Get an account rep at CDW/MacWarehouse and have them build you one to order from Apple. I've got a great account manager there, and she helped me get the Mac Pro noted below with a Adobe CS3 Design Premium bundle which improved the savings further (Notice how I do have the AE and BT options). Buy anything they sell and they'll install it for you too (not that it's tough in a Mac Pro). This works better if you're a small/large business, but it should work for consumers too.

I believe that CDW does charge tax in all states that have sales tax. If you get audited and you have a Mac Pro sitting there that's clearly been purchased recently, that would be a giveaway. I read something in WIRED recommending that people watch out for this with expensive HD sets.
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