[Zimphire]

No, not really.

IBM has been improving at a faster pace than MOT.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by Socially Awkward Solo

According to Appleinsider it is only going to be 2.7 GHz.

Either way now you have to admit it is already looking like a Motorola. And don't bring up vaporware.

Not really. Freescale is still at 1.67 GHz. The G5 is faster per clock (for FP), and it looks like it's going to be at 2.7 GHz within the month.

But yeah, I'd like to see either faster clock speeds or else dual-core this year.

[Goldfinger]

I for one am really concerned about this.

EDIT: quick reply rocks

[Superchicken]

You know, a speed bump of 200Mhz... is actually kinda really sad... I mean I know moore's law is not that great of something to rely on but still... there's like no incentive for anyone with like even a Dual 2 to upgrade as far as I see...

[Socially Awkward Solo]

Originally Posted by Superchicken

You know, a speed bump of 200Mhz... is actually kinda really sad... I mean I know moore's law is not that great of something to rely on but still... there's like no incentive for anyone with like even a Dual 2 to upgrade as far as I see...

200MHz is really pathetic, seems that it was everyones complaint with Motorola and that IBM would be like this.

I mean when did the Dual 2.5's come out anyway?

[Goldfinger]

Originally Posted by Socially Awkward Solo

200MHz is really pathetic, seems that it was everyones complaint with Motorola and that IBM would be like this.

I mean when did the Dual 2.5's come out anyway?

August last year IIRC

[Socially Awkward Solo]

Great, 8 months, 200MHz.

[Lateralus]

Things aren't looking a whole lot better for AMD either guys.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by Lateralus

Things aren't looking a whole lot better for AMD either guys.

I dunno, things look stellar to me for AMD. AMD has dual-core chips with integrated memory controllers coming out this month, and they're likely to debut at 2.4 GHz. Indeed, it seems Intel is playing catchup to AMD, since Intel's dual-core solution is not as elegant as AMD's.

Now, you many be commenting about AMD's ability to reach only 2.6 GHz for its single-core CPUs, but a dual single-core 2.6 GHz Opteron box should perform a bit faster in real-life stuff (and I'm not talking about games either) than Apple's 2.7 GHz G5 dual.

That said, the G5 2.7 is at least in the right ballpark, and Tiger is looking good.

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Now, you many be commenting about AMD's ability to reach only 2.6 GHz for its single-core CPUs, but a dual single-core 2.6 GHz Opteron box should perform a bit faster in real-life stuff (and I'm not talking about games either) than Apple's 2.7 GHz G5 dual.

That said, the G5 2.7 is at least in the right ballpark, and Tiger is looking good.

Unless it's a dual, dual-core 2.7GHz 970MP. Nothing like having over 10GHz at you fingertips.

[OptimusG4]

200MHz in 8 months is better than 50MHz in a year when the G4 was released.

[chris v]

Originally Posted by CD Hanks

sometimes i fall down

And you just lay there forever when you do, right? Just like IBM's chip designers. when they didn't hit 3 GHZ, they all just gave up and went home last year. They'll never make another chip again, ever.

Unlike Intel, who in the last year have progressed from 3.4 GHZ to... oh... never mind.

[nforcer]

Unless the new G5s are all dual core, I'm guessing the G6 should make its debut sometime in 1.5 - 2 years.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by chris v

And you just lay there forever when you do, right? Just like IBM's chip designers. when they didn't hit 3 GHZ, they all just gave up and went home last year. They'll never make another chip again, ever.

Unlike Intel, who in the last year have progressed from 3.4 GHZ to... oh... never mind.

Well, actually Intel has gone up to 3.8 GHz. They'll also have dual-core this month, although their implementation of it isn't so great.

I just hope IBM can get the dual-core 970MP out by the end of this year, along with PCIe.

[Angus_D]

Originally Posted by The Placid Casual

Well, I for one vote we go back to Motorola

You mean Freescale.

[Angus_D]

Originally Posted by thunderous_funker

9 fans isn't necessary for cooling--its necessary for cooling *quietly*.

Lots of fans in key areas spinning only as fast as they need to rather than very big fans blowing hard all day long generating a lot of noice.

After the "WindTunnel" G4s I think they're very conscious of noise and thermal design.

[Angus_D]

Originally Posted by olePigeon

I'm interested in IBM's Scale processeor jointly developed by IBM, Toshiba, and Sony. It's gonna be used in the Playstation 3

I think you mean Cell.

[Angus_D]

Originally Posted by Socially Awkward Solo

According to Appleinsider it is only going to be 2.7 GHz.

ThinkSecret.

[macaddict0001]

I would guess that the g6 comes in late 2006.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Well I hate to say I told ya so. 2.7 HGz today? so the 3GHz is a year late NOW and I bet it won't be out for another 8 months.

[:XI:]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

I dunno, things look stellar to me for AMD. AMD has dual-core chips with integrated memory controllers coming out this month, and they're likely to debut at 2.4 GHz. Indeed, it seems Intel is playing catchup to AMD, since Intel's dual-core solution is not as elegant as AMD's.

Now, you many be commenting about AMD's ability to reach only 2.6 GHz for its single-core CPUs, but a dual single-core 2.6 GHz Opteron box should perform a bit faster in real-life stuff (and I'm not talking about games either) than Apple's 2.7 GHz G5 dual.

That said, the G5 2.7 is at least in the right ballpark, and Tiger is looking good.

What does a dual opteron cost?* It's all well and good saying such and such is at blah-de-blah but if there are wild prices differences, comparisons can't really be made.

*Really. I have no idea where to even look for a decent opteron based system. Help a guy out would ya? Should I put money on the Mac costing more?

[MallyMal]

Originally Posted by :XI:

*Really. I have no idea where to even look for a decent opteron based system. Help a guy out would ya? Should I put money on the Mac costing more?

Boxx

[Zimphire]

Originally Posted by OptimusG4

200MHz in 8 months is better than 50MHz in a year when the G4 was released.

And that is why even comparing the two is moronic.

[Superchicken]

Oh well, least the Canadian price dropped a lot... before a dual 1.8Ghz G5 with 20inch would have been just about 4 grand, now it's just slightly over 3 grand. I think I might actually have to pick up one now... when I have three grand

[willed]

Originally Posted by Zimphire

And that is why even comparing the two is moronic.

Or is it? Because when you think about in in percentages, (which I can't be bothered to work out right now), the G4 development may in fact have been as good if not better than current G5 development!

[ThinkInsane]

That's enough kids.

[Kerrigan]

not for much longer

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Told ya, IBM was just as bad in the end.

[Zimphire]

Something about counting chickens and hatching.

[JoshuaZ]

I'm still waiting for IBM to make a nice 2 hz G4 or a nice cool running G5 for laptop consumption. IBM is doing a good job with chips, seeing how its selling them to everyone these days and using them in their own servers.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

This is just a big "I told you so" to everyone who had their hopes up for vaporware Dual Core and G5 laptops, cell processors and calling the comparison "Moronic".

I smelt a rat over a year ago yet next to nobody agreed with me ~cough~ Eug (no offense buddy) and always wrong Zimphire

Sure Steve is still going to push Power PC for the next year cuz he wants to sell computers but a year from now he will be bashing the G5.

[brapper]

you win.

[Stradlater]

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

This is just a big "I told you so" to everyone who had their hopes up for vaporware Dual Core and G5 laptops, cell processors and calling the comparison "Moronic".

I smelt a rat over a year ago yet next to nobody agreed with me ~cough~ Eug (no offense buddy) and always wrong Zimphire

Sure Steve is still going to push Power PC for the next year cuz he wants to sell computers but a year from now he will be bashing the G5.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Originally Posted by brapper

you win.

booya.

Now lets see everyone try to make me look bad for being right.