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Sep 10, 2004, 10:57 AM
 
There is Hope. This is what muslims need to do...PROTEST. I wonder what would have happened if they marched to Al Sadr's office though?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,131959,00.html

Meanwhile Friday, about 1,000 protesters marched through Najaf's old quarter Friday to demand that Muqtada al-Sadr (search) and his aides leave this holy city that has been ravaged by fighting between the radical cleric's followers and U.S. and Iraqi troops.

Chanting, "Muqtada, the trash, is a leader of looters," the demonstrators walked past buildings hit by three weeks of fighting and insisted that al-Sadr's office be shut down. Iraqi soldiers kept the protesters from marching to al-Sadr's office.
     
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Sep 10, 2004, 11:01 AM
 
Good to hear. See folks, this is what protesting is about.

Not the pretentious silliness that went on in NY.
     
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Sep 10, 2004, 11:05 AM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
Good to hear. See folks, this is what protesting is about.

Not the pretentious silliness that went on in NY.
What's funny, this will get zero attention because it doesn't focus on the negative! I can start a silly thread about WWIII and get some great knee jerker responses...but as soon as something positive is posted...a certain faction falls silent.
     
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Sep 10, 2004, 11:10 AM
 
Yup. "lets hope it goes to the bottom of the page soon" mentality.
     
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Sep 10, 2004, 11:26 AM
 
*bump*

for the thousand good Iraqis.

we shouldn't have done any less - even if there was just one.
     
dcolton  (op)
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Sep 10, 2004, 11:31 AM
 
Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:


for the thousand good Iraqis.

we shouldn't have done any less - even if there was just one.
Another classic quote from spliffdaddy!

     
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Sep 10, 2004, 11:47 AM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
Yup. "lets hope it goes to the bottom of the page soon" mentality.
I won't let it

*bump*
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 10:50 AM
 
Originally posted by dcolton:
What's funny, this will get zero attention because it doesn't focus on the negative! I can start a silly thread about WWIII and get some great knee jerker responses...but as soon as something positive is posted...a certain faction falls silent.
^^^^^
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 10:54 AM
 
dc it's sad when people want to see a nation fail just out of spiteful hatred.

I've never met so many petty/spiteful people in my life, than in this forum.
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 11:31 AM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
dc it's sad when people want to see a nation fail just out of spiteful hatred.

I've never met so many petty/spiteful people in my life, than in this forum.
I must agree as well. No one I have ever spoken with in person would ever want something bad to happen to the US. Is there some sign on the net that says Macnn is the anti-US hang out place?
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 11:47 AM
 
Originally posted by djohnson:
I must agree as well. No one I have ever spoken with in person would ever want something bad to happen to the US. Is there some sign on the net that says Macnn is the anti-US hang out place?
hay didn't u guyz get the memo? it's trendy to hate the us now!

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Sep 14, 2004, 12:35 PM
 
"This show is filmed before a live studio audience as soon as someone removes that dead guy!" - Stephen Colbert
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 01:03 PM
 
Originally posted by CD Hanks:
hay didn't u guyz get the memo? it's trendy to hate the us now!

Ahh I guess I missed that memo! Thanks for the reminder.
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 01:07 PM
 
Wow, strange, I don't see any of the usual suspects commenting on this thread. I wonder why ?

Oh, wait, these are peaceful, good Iraqis, they're more busy whining about some BAD EVIL Iraqis who happened to die.

     
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Sep 14, 2004, 01:08 PM
 
Originally posted by UNTiMac:
How is showing that there are Iraqi citizens willing to step up and go against these shenanigans for their own freedom flame bait?

If you think it is, that says a lot about your stance on the whole thing.
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 01:15 PM
 
You guys are developing an admirable persecution complex. I blame Bush for that as well!

Zimphire, I'm assuming you gave that linked organization a good scrutinizin' prior to sending your money. If not, can I interest you in my Hudson River Manatee charitable foundation? We're fund raising to reintroduce the lovable but oh-so endangered critter to New York City's harbor.

Oh, and regarding the protests; I think you're applauding up the wrong tree. The protests were aimed at ridding a sacred mosque of warring parties. They weren't protesting the insurgents' cause, just the venue. No flower petals here!
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 01:21 PM
 
Don't spoil it for them; they were just about to get off.
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Sep 14, 2004, 01:26 PM
 
Originally posted by DBursey:
You guys are developing an admirable persecution complex.

Persecution? Since when is making fun of nay-sayers persecution?

Oh, and regarding the protests; I think you're applauding up the wrong tree. The protests were aimed at ridding a sacred mosque of warring parties. They weren't protesting the insurgents' cause, just the venue. No flower petals here!
"In Najaf, about 1,000 protesters marched through the old quarter Friday to demand that Muqtada al-Sadr (search ) and his aides leave the city, which has been ravaged by fighting between the radical cleric's followers and U.S. and Iraqi troops."

No, not just LEAVE the mosque, but LEAVE THE CITY. They don't want them there. They are sick of their shenanigans. They are taking up for themselves.
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 08:29 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
How is showing that there are Iraqi citizens willing to step up and go against these shenanigans for their own freedom flame bait?

If you think it is, that says a lot about your stance on the whole thing.
.a certain faction falls silent.

...

dc it's sad when people want to see a nation fail just out of spiteful hatred.

I've never met so many petty/spiteful people in my life, than in this forum.

...

I must agree as well. No one I have ever spoken with in person would ever want something bad to happen to the US. Is there some sign on the net that says Macnn is the anti-US hang out place?
You guys were itching for a fight...you didn't get one, so you started in on the usual "the left sucks" topic. Nice try, I'm out.
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:00 PM
 
Originally posted by dcolton:
There is Hope. This is what muslims need to do...PROTEST. I wonder what would have happened if they marched to Al Sadr's office though?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,131959,00.html
They are f*cking lucky they didn't get blasted by American helicopter gunships.

I didn't follow the link...it's fox news for f*cks sake.

If you are advocating Iraqis go out on the street and demonstrate and risk getting strafed or bombed by gunships I suggest you go for a midnight stroll thru Harlem with a t-shirt that says 'I HATE NIGGERS!"...you'd be a lot safer.
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:06 PM
 
Originally posted by Atomic Rooster:
They are f*cking lucky they didn't get blasted by American helicopter gunships.

I didn't follow the link...it's fox news for f*cks sake.

If you are advocating Iraqis go out on the street and demonstrate and risk getting strafed or bombed by gunships I suggest you go for a midnight stroll thru Harlem with a t-shirt that says 'I HATE NIGGERS!"...you'd be a lot safer.
Yup, you're gonna go on the ignore list soon.
Hmmm�isn't using the n-word like bad? Like that k word?
Imagine the Hell I'd get if I said that.
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:10 PM
 
Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Yup, you're gonna go on the ignore list soon.
Hmmm�isn't using the n-word like bad? Like that k word?
Imagine the Hell I'd get if I said that.
You know what's funny ? 9 out of 10 times when I hear the word Sand - N**ga, it is from people on the left, as if they have some free pass or something.
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:12 PM
 
Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Yup, you're gonna go on the ignore list soon.
Hmmm�isn't using the n-word like bad? Like that k word?
Imagine the Hell I'd get if I said that.
??? Anyone who puts anyone on their ignore list belongs in bed by 9 pm.

So put me on your ignore list...you think I give a flying monkey fart?!!?

     
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:15 PM
 
Originally posted by Atomic Rooster:
??? Anyone who puts anyone on their ignore list belongs in bed by 9 pm.

So put me on your ignore list...you think I give a flying monkey fart?!!?

Flying�monkey�fart. Okay, got that one down.

No, you just act dumb. A shirt with n***** on it? Bombings by an airship? Besides, it wastes less time loading the page. You're also the one who routinely calls me a nazi so you're gettn close.
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:16 PM
 
Originally posted by PacHead:
You know what's funny ? 9 out of 10 times when I hear the word Sand - N**ga, it is from people on the left, as if they have some free pass or something.
Yeah ignore the message attack the messenger.

Sorry it won't make me cry.

     
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:18 PM
 
Originally posted by Atomic Rooster:
Yeah ignore the message attack the messenger.

Sorry it won't make me cry.

What message would that be ? That you like to curse, you use the F-word a few times in your posts, you also like the N word, and you didn't bother to read the link ?

Nice message.

     
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:19 PM
 
Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Flying�monkey�fart. Okay, got that one down.

No, you just act dumb. A shirt with n***** on it? Bombings by an airship? Besides, it wastes less time loading the page. You're also the one who routinely calls me a nazi so you're gettn close.
Proof that I've called YOU a nazi?

I guess I'm not on your ignore list yet?

     
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:20 PM
 
Originally posted by PacHead:
What message would that be ? That you like to curse, you use the F-word a few times in your posts, you also like the N word, and you didn't bother to read the link ?

Nice message.

I tried to keep it as simple as possible for you.
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:29 PM
 
Originally posted by Atomic Rooster:
Proof that I've called YOU a nazi?

I guess I'm not on your ignore list yet?

Called conservative board members Nazis. Applies to me.

Oh yeah, thank God there are a few Iraqis that aren't trying to kill us.
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:33 PM
 
There are 25 000 000 people living in Iraq.


1000 manifested on the street.


So wtf?

that is 0.0004% of the population...


hardly significant....
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:35 PM
 
Originally posted by angaq0k:
There are 25 000 000 people living in Iraq.


1000 manifested on the street.


So wtf?

that is 0.0004% of the population...


hardly significant....
How many muslims have protested against terrorism in the world ?

0.000000000001 % ?

That's if we use your logic.
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:42 PM
 
Originally posted by PacHead:
How many muslims have protested against terrorism in the world ?

0.000000000001 % ?

That's if we use your logic.
See, I am not using my logic.

I am using your logic, the same used when there were so many people manifesting in New York...

But Pachead, I don't believe you can get irony yet. Because this thing goes much deeper than it appears. See, it is like the Titanic.

You have this big boat that is said to be unsinkable.

The you have the Ice cube coming in harms way.

And then no more Titanic, barely any survivors.

But the icicle floats away with a smear of paint...
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:43 PM
 
Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Called conservative board members Nazis. Applies to me.

Oh yeah, thank God there are a few Iraqis that aren't trying to kill us.
I called the wacky ones. If you wanna put yourself in the wacko group that's up to you. Don't pawn it off on me.

But to your credit...if I did say nazi and not neonazicon or nazi-esque I apologize.
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:44 PM
 
Originally posted by Atomic Rooster:
I called the wacky ones. If you wanna put yourself in the wacko group that's up to you. Don't pawn it off on me.

But to your credit...if I did say nazi and not neonazicon or nazi-esque I apologize.
Who would you put into this "whack" group?
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:48 PM
 
Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Bombings by an airship?
http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...=1#post2184585

ps. By the way Creeping that should be gunship as in helicopter gunship not airship as in Flash Gordon.
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:52 PM
 
Originally posted by UNTiMac:
You guys were itching for a fight...you didn't get one, so you started in on the usual "the left sucks" topic. Nice try, I'm out.
Looking for a fight? No. Looking for some to see a lot of good is going on down there? Yes.
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:53 PM
 
Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Yup, you're gonna go on the ignore list soon.
Hmmm�isn't using the n-word like bad? Like that k word?
Imagine the Hell I'd get if I said that.
Playing devils advocate here, in the way he used it, it wasn't offensive.
     
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Sep 14, 2004, 09:53 PM
 
Originally posted by angaq0k:
There are 25 000 000 people living in Iraq.


1000 manifested on the street.


So wtf?

that is 0.0004% of the population...


hardly significant....
Indeed. Lets put this into perspective too.

9000 insurgaents/50,000,000Iraqi population=0.00018
     
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Sep 15, 2004, 10:14 AM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
Indeed. Lets put this into perspective too.

9000 insurgaents/50,000,000Iraqi population=0.00018
The population of Iraq is approximately 25 million, not 50

http://www.nationbynation.com/Iraq/Population.html
     
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Originally posted by bewebste:
The population of Iraq is approximately 25 million, not 50

http://www.nationbynation.com/Iraq/Population.html
Oh sorry.

Still a small number of insurgents. And a lot of them aren't even Iraqi.
     
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
Oh sorry.

Still a small number of insurgents. And a lot of them aren't even Iraqi.
Yeah, it's kind of difficult to really come up with a hard number for the number of insurgents. The top estimates are around 20,000 or so, but one must remember that being an "insurgent" isn't necessarily a full-time job. The core number of insurgents, i.e. those who spend most of their time planning anti-US operations, is probably somewhere around 5-10 thousand, but if they need to get something in motion, they can whip up support from others when need be. It is a small number compared to the Iraqi population, but it's more significant when compared to the number of US soldiers in the country.
     
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Originally posted by bewebste:
Yeah, it's kind of difficult to really come up with a hard number for the number of insurgents. The top estimates are around 20,000 or so, but one must remember that being an "insurgent" isn't necessarily a full-time job. The core number of insurgents, i.e. those who spend most of their time planning anti-US operations, is probably somewhere around 5-10 thousand, but if they need to get something in motion, they can whip up support from others when need be. It is a small number compared to the Iraqi population, but it's more significant when compared to the number of US soldiers in the country.
Let's not forget the silent majority....
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And it's STILL a small percentage.
     
   
 
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