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I was given a dual 2 ghz power mac G5, and I cant stand Mac OS X. Is it possible to install Windows XP on the hardware? 
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Originally posted by Mr. Blur:
i smell a troll.
It is a legitimate question...
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If you don't like it, I'll give you up to a thousand bucks and an athlon xp 2600 system that can run winxp.
Edit: Depending on the model, conditions, and specs, of course.
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It's not a PC, so no, you cannot.
Either tell your parents to take it back, sell it, or live with it.
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No you cannot install XP and OSX has a good spell checker that would have told you how to spell "Hello".
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Originally posted by John Pollock:
I was given a dual 2 ghz power mac G5, and I cant stand Mac OS X. Is it possible to install Windows XP on the hardware?
I don't want to start a flame party, but I have to ask. What don't you like about Mac OS X?
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The Macintosh uses PowerPC processors based on the RISC architecture, with custom chipsets to control various aspects of the computer. Your average PC uses either Pentium or Athlon processors (although there are other microprocessor companies, those are the two major vendors), while similar in some respects to RISC, they are still tied to the original x86 instruction set.
Microsoft only writes WindowsXP for the x86 architecture. There are PowerPC variants of WindowsNT and 2000, but they are either inhouse projects or only available for corporate sales. In the event you should even acquire a PowerPC version of Windows, it will not run any x86 binaries, and, unless you have the latest internal build from Microsoft, will probably not run on a Macintosh anyway.
There are several options of getting WindowsXP to run in an emulator. You can use either VirtualPC or WINE and run that on top of Mac OS X, or you can just use WINE and run it under your favorite Linux or UNIX distro.
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Originally posted by John Pollock:
I was given a dual 2 ghz power mac G5, and I cant stand Mac OS X. Is it possible to install Windows XP on the hardware?
don't mean to sound like a jerk... but for God's sake, why? 
I would rather run an intel box with OS X, than a Mac box with Windows XP.... The problem with Wintel, is the "Win" part. 
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Originally posted by Scotttheking:
If you don't like it, I'll give you up to a thousand bucks and an athlon xp 2600 system that can run winxp.
Edit: Depending on the model, conditions, and specs, of course.
And should you be in England, I'll make the same offer!
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Originally posted by olePigeon:
The Macintosh uses PowerPC processors based on the RISC architecture, with custom chipsets to control various aspects of the computer. Your average PC uses either Pentium or Athlon processors (although there are other microprocessor companies, those are the two major vendors), while similar in some respects to RISC, they are still tied to the original x86 instruction set.
Microsoft only writes WindowsXP for the x86 architecture. There are PowerPC variants of WindowsNT and 2000, but they are either inhouse projects or only available for corporate sales. In the event you should even acquire a PowerPC version of Windows, it will not run any x86 binaries, and, unless you have the latest internal build from Microsoft, will probably not run on a Macintosh anyway.
There are several options of getting WindowsXP to run in an emulator. You can use either VirtualPC or WINE and run that on top of Mac OS X, or you can just use WINE and run it under your favorite Linux or UNIX distro.
That is most certainly the most helpful post so far. Just one question; what is the performance on these emulators like?
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Originally posted by John Pollock:
That is most certainly the most helpful post so far. Just one question; what is the performance on these emulators like?
The Virtual PC version for the G5 has not been released. From what I have heard far too slow to play games. If you don't like it sell it, or play with more and you'll start to like it.
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Originally posted by John Pollock:
That is most certainly the most helpful post so far. Just one question; what is the performance on these emulators like?
Last I heard Virtual PC doesn't work on the G5...
frankly if you want a post to be helpful, then here it is.
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Originally posted by willab:
The Virtual PC version for the G5 has not been released. From what I have heard far too slow to play games. If you don't like it sell it, or play with more and you'll start to like it.
I don't play games.
Originally posted by UnixMac:
Last I heard Virtual PC doesn't work on the G5...
frankly if you want a post to be helpful, then here it is.
Learn OS X, and discover the better OS. Seriously.
I guess I was being too harsh a bit earlier, I don't dislike OS X, I am just extremely used to Windows...
So when will Virtual PC for the G5 be released?
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Originally posted by John Pollock:
I don't play games.
I guess I was being too harsh a bit earlier, I don't dislike OS X, I am just extremely used to Windows...
So when will Virtual PC for the G5 be released?
In the works now... very soon I am told.
Do try to learn the in and outs of OS X though. While we can debate the merits of G5 vs P4 all day long and never settle that... the OS debate is far more one sided... There is a movement afoot in the Intel world to get OS X onto the PC platform and more than 200,000 people have signed the petition which fell on deaf ears at Apple.. however the same cannot be said of Windows XP... NT is another story, but that is also useless on a home machine.
Good luck with your delima.
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Originally posted by John Pollock:
So when will Virtual PC for the G5 be released?
It seems to be a bit of a mystery. I've heard rumors as late as October. If someone knows differently, I'd sure like to hear about it.
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Originally posted by olePigeon:
There are PowerPC variants of WindowsNT and 2000, but they are either inhouse projects or only available for corporate sales.
The last version of Windows on PPC was WinNT 4.0. And it didn't run on Power Mac hardware, because it's not just about the processor, it's the whole architecture.
Originally posted by John Pollock:
That is most certainly the most helpful post so far. Just one question; what is the performance on these emulators like?
Absolutely lousy. For comparison, Virtual PC running on my 1.25GHz PowerBook G4 performs roughly as well as a 250ish MHz Pentium. So a G5 at 2GHz might reach the performance of a 400MHz Pentium. Even if it used both CPUs (which is unlikely, IMHO), then you'd be using a $3000 Mac to emulate a $200 PC. Except that the PC would still be better, because it would have a real graphics chip.
Virtual PC exists for the Mac user who needs to run a Windows-only program now and then, and even then only for processor-light applications. It's not viable as a full-time solution.
So either learn OS X or buy a PC. Of course, we'd love to see the former happen!
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Originally posted by John Pollock:
I was given a dual 2 ghz power mac G5, and I cant stand Mac OS X.
I'll take it.
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You'll have to beat Scotttheking's offer!
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I wasn't aware that VPC wasn't out for the G5 yet. Seems like a waste of money and time on waiting. My suggestion (since you don't play games) is to bite the bullet and use Mac OS X. You might be used to Windows, but I assure you should be able to use Mac OS X without any problems.
I thought I'd mention that Office 2004 for Mac has been touted as the best version of Office to date. Apparently it tromps the Windows version in features, functionality, and usability. These are reviews from PC and Windows magazines, by the way.
Give it it a shot, I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
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Oh yeah, and if you don't like the look of OS X, you can always skin it with a custom theme.
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IF you dont like OSX then sell the G5. Then use that money for a PC. You also hate trying to use the G5 with Virtual PC.
But I would give OSX a shot. OS X feels and acts different but we all beleive it is the better option. There is everybody from users that just surf the web and use word to pro graphic artists and Video & film professionals to IT pros that use the mac. We are not useing OSX because we dont know anything else but use the Mac(OSX) because we feel the choice is the better one.
Good luck if you are haveing trouble useing OSX ask some questions we will all be happy to answer them.
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Originally posted by John Pollock:
I was given a dual 2 ghz power mac G5, and I cant stand Mac OS X. Is it possible to install Windows XP on the hardware?
I'll trade you a compaq X1360US laptop (great for gaming).
PM me.
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I'll give you $1000 plus a PC with an AthlonXP 2700+, Asus n-force 2 mobo, 128MB Radeon 9800 Pro, 18" Dell 1800FP LCD, 512MB RAM, Pioneer DVR-107D 8x DVD-/+RW and a 120GB Western Digital 8MB special edition HD, and WinXP Pro.
And I'll pay for shipping.
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I am not going to sell it as it was a birthday present from my parents, and I already have a decent PC. I have been playing around on OS X, and I am starting to like it, so thanks for all of your help.
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John Pollock, you are the luckiest human being alive to be just GIVEN a Dual 2.0 Ghz G5 by your parents.
OSX does take some getting used to since you've been using Windows your whole life but once you take some time to learn it, you realize how vastly superior it is. Congrats on your new computer, you will no doubt enjoy using it.
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Hey John, I know a quick way to get you to love OS X. F9, F10, and F11 baby. Especially F11. Panther is awesome. 
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better yet hold shift while pressing those key's or clicking on the yellow button on the top left of your window while holding shift.
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Originally posted by macaddict0001:
better yet hold shift while pressing those key's or clicking on the yellow button on the top left of your window while holding shift.
Woahhh!!! I've been using OS X for almost a year now (used to use windows...) and I've never seen that! thats the sweetest thing ever
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