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Feb 15, 2007, 11:12 AM
 
Their military technology is beyond description:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9731d_4407
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Feb 15, 2007, 11:25 AM
 
Fear the Americans:

Their military technology is beyond description

YouTube - F-22 Crash(YF-22 prototype)

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Feb 15, 2007, 11:27 AM
 
Fear the Swedes:

Their military technology is beyond description

YouTube - JAS39 crash(Gripen)

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Feb 15, 2007, 11:38 AM
 
Difference is this: The YF-22 is a prototype (Hence, the "YF" designation) As such, it is expected to be imperfect (hence the fact it is being tested).

The Swedes, well that looks like pilot error to me.

The French missile is an actual frontline, deployed weapon system.

Nice try, but I suggest you return to the drawing board.

While you're at it, see if someone will lend you a sense of humor, too.
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Feb 15, 2007, 11:47 AM
 
Let me guess, your experience of the military is through America's Army and the news?


oh, and I forgot.






(I thank macnn for lending me some humour)

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Feb 15, 2007, 12:01 PM
 
No, I was USAF, deployed several times with militaries of MANY countries. Lemme guess, your military experience is from watching CNN?
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Feb 15, 2007, 12:08 PM
 
Hey 'Bat.
They're French-Canadians.


And Sayf, you experience in the military is what?
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Feb 15, 2007, 12:26 PM
 
Originally Posted by Macrobat View Post
No, I was USAF, deployed several times with militaries of MANY countries. Lemme guess, your military experience is from watching CNN?
No, SAF (Swedish AF). Ranger. Time in Bosnia&Herzegovina (UNPROFOR).

I don't have CNN.

And if you've spent enough time in the military you should know that 1) fekk ups like the above happen and 2) such fekk ups can be lifethreatening. I'm sorry but I don't find such things very funny.

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Feb 15, 2007, 12:41 PM
 
Then don't bother posting in threads about it, then. No one was hurt in mine - can you say the same about yours?

Feel free to preach your sermon elsewhere, since it's looking decidedly hypocritical about now.
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Feb 15, 2007, 01:34 PM
 
Officer or enlisted Sayf?(just curious)
I was a Captain in the USAF.
I got sent to Africa instead of Bosnia.
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Originally Posted by Macrobat View Post
Then don't bother posting in threads about it, then. No one was hurt in mine - can you say the same about yours?
I don't know about the pilot of the F22 but IIRC the Swedish pilot walked away a little burned and with some bruises. Couldn't believe it at the time but then he did this:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=U0LBj_8xs_w
Feel free to preach your sermon elsewhere, since it's looking decidedly hypocritical about now.
Sorry, was a bit pissed of at work today and I didn't mean to "preach". I thought it was a funny clip actually and decided to post some more military "mistakes". Which is why I posted the Swedish fekk up. I wouldn't do that if I was trying to preach.

Again, I apologise for sounding pissed off.

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Feb 15, 2007, 05:49 PM
 
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Officer or enlisted Sayf?(just curious)
I was a Captain in the USAF.
I finished the conscript part (enlisted?) and then signed up for the peacekeeping force. I was thinking about having that as my future career but for family reasons I couldn't.
I got sent to Africa instead of Bosnia.
I hope you had a better mandate than we did. Never seen or heard as much BS coming from politicians (from all over the world) in my life.

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Feb 15, 2007, 06:35 PM
 
Beat yuz all. I was an intergalactic starfighter. Saw action in several quadrants. That was until I hurt my pinky. Then I got mustered out.
     
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Feb 15, 2007, 10:39 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sayf-Allah View Post
Fear the Americans:

Their military technology is beyond description

YouTube - F-22 Crash(YF-22 prototype)
First of all, that was one of the prototype F-22's. It was a simple software glitch that overcorrected causing an oscillation during landing. That problem was fixed over 6 years ago.
     
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Feb 15, 2007, 10:40 PM
 
Another prototype, I believe in Switzerland or somewhere in Europe. This was almost 16 years ago.

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Fear the Swedes:

Their military technology is beyond description

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Originally Posted by Buckaroo View Post
Another prototype, I believe in Switzerland or somewhere in Europe. This was almost 16 years ago.
No that was Scotland... or wait.. no not Spain.. errr... Sssss... something.. oh well what do I know. [/dumb American]



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Feb 16, 2007, 05:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by Buckaroo View Post
First of all, that was one of the prototype F-22's. It was a simple software glitch that overcorrected causing an oscillation during landing. That problem was fixed over 6 years ago.
Is that so? Thanks for clearing that up!





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Originally Posted by Buckaroo View Post
Another prototype, I believe in Switzerland or somewhere in Europe. This was almost 16 years ago.
A bit late to the party ain't ya?

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Originally Posted by voodoo View Post
No that was Scotland... or wait.. no not Spain.. errr... Sssss... something.. oh well what do I know. [/dumb American]



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Serbia?

Am I close?!

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Originally Posted by Sayf-Allah View Post
Serbia?

Am I close?!
Well I was thinking Slovenia perhaps?

Could have been Slovakia. Didn't they design that Tunnan figher as well??!

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Originally Posted by voodoo View Post
Well I was thinking Slovenia perhaps?

Could have been Slovakia. Didn't they design that Tunnan figher as well??!

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Ya! Slovakia, that's it! Yeah, that Tunnan was one ugly plane! Another military "mistake"!!



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Yeah, those crazy Slovakians and their fighters. I hear they're all communists and are prone to eating their children.

Eating children is a political statement, as well you know.

(btw, Tunnan? could there *be* an uglier name for a fighter.. except maybe croissant.)

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Feb 16, 2007, 06:57 AM
 
Originally Posted by Sky Captain View Post
Hey 'Bat.
They're French-Canadians.
Quoted for emphasis. It would be like saying "Fear the Brits" when the Yankees do something stupid... Nice try at French bashing. A little short of first down though, as usual.
     
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Feb 16, 2007, 09:25 AM
 
You're right - the French missile would never have made it out of the tube.

Simple mistake, since they are obviously speaking French.

Now pull your panties out of your crack.
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Originally Posted by Macrobat View Post
You're right - the French missile would never have made it out of the tube.

Simple mistake, since they are obviously speaking French.

Now pull your panties out of your crack.
They are also obviously speaking French canadian. You should know about it since you have been working along the French military so much (as per some of your earlier statements). And when you try to make fun of somebody, make sure you get your facts right, else the jokes kinda backfires...

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Originally Posted by Sayf-Allah View Post
No, SAF (Swedish AF). Ranger. Time in Bosnia&Herzegovina (UNPROFOR).
Didn't you say you were just there to "report" what was going on?
     
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Originally Posted by villalobos View Post
They are also obviously speaking French canadian. You should know about it since you have been working along the French military so much (as per some of your earlier statements). And when you try to make fun of somebody, make sure you get your facts right, else the jokes kinda backfires...

[OT]Man, I wish I was still in Raleigh right now instead of freezing my ass down here in NJ...
There's a HUGE difference between what I said earlier, that I served with people from many countries and all countries.

And - NO - they are not "obviously speaking French Canadian" since there is NO such language. Sky Captain knew it because he recognized the camoflauge pattern on their uniforms.

Again, de-crack your panties.
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F-22 Raptor
F-14 Tomcat
P-38 Lightning

My favorite planes, in that order.
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Originally Posted by olePigeon View Post
F-22 Raptor
F-14 Tomcat
P-38 Lightning

My favorite planes, in that order.
I can't get over how cheesy the 'raptor' nickname sounds. It's just so jurassic park. They'd never have named that plane 'raptor' if it wasn't for that movie.

And those things walked like chickens.

Now the F-16 Falcon, that's a plane and *that's* a name for a plane!
(my favorite fighter)

F/A 18 a close second.

Eurofighter Typhoon a close third.

All very cool planes.

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Originally Posted by Macrobat View Post
And - NO - they are not "obviously speaking French Canadian" since there is NO such language.
Oh yes there is! Like there is American English and British English. You couldn't hear the difference between British soldiers talking and American soldiers talking?? Reeeally...

Ey, they're both speaking English! Must all be from England then

Same with Mexican Spanish and Castillan Spanish. Those are two clearly different things. Both Spanish, so those Mexicans must be from Spain.

You just don't know the difference. Simple as that. Any French person can hear immediately if another person is speaking French or Canadian French.

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Feb 16, 2007, 04:13 PM
 
Fear the Andorrans.

Their military technology is beyond description.

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Feb 16, 2007, 04:31 PM
 
Raptor is a generic name for birds of prey.
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I can't get over how cheesy the 'raptor' nickname sounds. It's just so jurassic park. They'd never have named that plane 'raptor' if it wasn't for that movie.
A raptor refers to any sort of bird (or dinosaur) with a beak or mouth designed for eating meat, has talons, and keen eyesight. Don't think it necissarily has anything to do with a dinosaur.
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Originally Posted by voodoo View Post
Oh yes there is! Like there is American English and British English. You couldn't hear the difference between British soldiers talking and American soldiers talking?? Reeeally...

Ey, they're both speaking English! Must all be from England then

Same with Mexican Spanish and Castillan Spanish. Those are two clearly different things. Both Spanish, so those Mexicans must be from Spain.

You just don't know the difference. Simple as that. Any French person can hear immediately if another person is speaking French or Canadian French.

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Wait for it, he's about to tell you you are full of it. He knows everything, and has no fear of claiming it to the internet crowd. Thanks for the quality rebuttal though, I don't have to do it. :-)
     
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Originally Posted by voodoo View Post
I can't get over how cheesy the 'raptor' nickname sounds. It's just so jurassic park. They'd never have named that plane 'raptor' if it wasn't for that movie.

And those things walked like chickens.

Now the F-16 Falcon, that's a plane and *that's* a name for a plane!
(my favorite fighter)

F/A 18 a close second.

Eurofighter Typhoon a close third.

All very cool planes.

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Actually, it's Raptor, as in Bird of Prey (such as Eagles and Falcons - see a pattern?), not as in Velociraptor.

No, Villalobos, as far as know it alls you have me confused, I take no "Shortcuts."

Get over it, the video is funny as hell. The only one condescending here is you, actually. Already said I didn't know it, therefore wouldn't have recognized it - and I seriously doubt YOU would have, either, if not for Sky Captain's post.

As far as planes go:

F-15 Eagle

The only fighter in the history of military aviation to have never been defeated (not even once) in aerial combat.
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Originally Posted by Macrobat View Post
There's a HUGE difference between what I said earlier, that I served with people from many countries and all countries.

And - NO - they are not "obviously speaking French Canadian" since there is NO such language. Sky Captain knew it because he recognized the camoflauge pattern on their uniforms.

Again, de-crack your panties.
it's camouflage (from the French, that you seem to be such an expert at). For the rest see Voodoo's quality post
     
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Feb 16, 2007, 08:07 PM
 
Get over yourself, already,

Petty, pathetic crap.

For the rest, see my left butt-cheek.
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Get over yourself, already,

Petty, pathetic crap.

For the rest, see my left butt-cheek.
Running out of arguments eh? Can't blame you on that one, you were digging pretty deep.
     
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Feb 16, 2007, 08:10 PM
 
How do you argue with a non-argument?

Can't blame you - you never had anything legitimate to contribute in the first place.

Wasn't digging anything - actually.

Actually, being Canadian, wouldn't that most likely make it British technology?

In case it was too deep for you, posting it as "Fear the Canadians" is still just as funny.
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How do you argue with a non-argument?

Can't blame you - you never had anything legitimate to contribute in the first place.

Wasn't digging anything - actually.

Actually, being Canadian, wouldn't that most likely make it British technology?

In case it was too deep for you, posting it as "Fear the Canadians" is still just as funny.
Just like that, you start digging again.
     
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Step away from the bong
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Originally Posted by olePigeon View Post
A raptor refers to any sort of bird (or dinosaur) with a beak or mouth designed for eating meat, has talons, and keen eyesight. Don't think it necissarily has anything to do with a dinosaur.
Oh, still that name came suspiciously close after jurassic park. No wonder that was the immediate connection I made. I would have been silly to name a plane after a dinosaur anyway.

Especially one supposed to be state-of-the-art.

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Originally Posted by voodoo View Post
I can't get over how cheesy the 'raptor' nickname sounds. It's just so jurassic park. They'd never have named that plane 'raptor' if it wasn't for that movie.

And those things walked like chickens.

Now the F-16 Falcon, that's a plane and *that's* a name for a plane!
(my favorite fighter)

F/A 18 a close second.

Eurofighter Typhoon a close third.

All very cool planes.

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Agreed although I'd add Gripen in there (and that's because I'm a complete neutral on that topic.... ).

Gripen = Griffin

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Agreed although I'd add Gripen in there (and that's because I'm a complete neutral on that topic.... ).

Gripen = Griffin
Oh so *that's* what it means.. I thought it it was some other name of a household container, like Tunnan

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Originally Posted by voodoo View Post
Oh so *that's* what it means.. I thought it it was some other name of a household container, like Tunnan

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Here is our Secretary of Fisheries, or whatever she is, standing up to the French.
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Looks like my picture stopped this thread dead in its tracks! Cool trick, huh?
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Looks like my picture stopped this thread dead in its tracks! Cool trick, huh?
Given it was on these tracks from the get go, we can only thank you for it.
     
   
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