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May 15, 2010, 01:52 PM
 
Another leak from Vietnam.

• 2.4 GHz C2D, 2 GB RAM, 250 GB HDD
• 320M integrated graphics
• LED-backlit screen
• angled MagSafe conector

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May 15, 2010, 02:09 PM
 
Not the most thrilling leak, but it's a good update. Keeps it current. The GPU will be a nice update for occasional gamers.

BTW, the current MacBook has a LED-backlit screen.
     
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May 15, 2010, 04:20 PM
 
As I commented in the original article, why does the box's label say '© 2009'?.
     
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May 15, 2010, 04:43 PM
 
I do love how they whited out the serial number and part number, but left the bar-scan code visible.

Great thinking.
     
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May 15, 2010, 05:04 PM
 
I don't think the resolution is high enough to make out the bar code, but I could be wrong.
     
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May 15, 2010, 05:36 PM
 
This is pretty much the same as the 13" MBP, minus firewire and the aluminum case, for a $200 savings (assuming it's $999).
     
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May 15, 2010, 05:55 PM
 
Minus FireWire, aluminum case, lit keyboard, auto-dimming screen, battery status indicator, infrared remote receiver, SD card slot, and 2GB RAM.
     
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May 15, 2010, 06:11 PM
 
Take auto dimming screen off your list (why is that there?). Basically, it's the same as the current MacBook but with a bump in CPU speed and the new GPU.
     
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May 15, 2010, 06:31 PM
 
Spheric is talking about the MacBook Pros automatically adjusting the screen brightness by reading the ambient light. The MacBook doesn't have the light sensor.
     
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May 15, 2010, 06:34 PM
 
Are you sure? I think all Macs with iSight cameras have ambient light sensors.
     
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May 15, 2010, 07:10 PM
 
No, the MacBook and iMac don't have ambient light sensors.
     
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May 15, 2010, 07:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by chabig View Post
This is pretty much the same as the 13" MBP, minus firewire and the aluminum case, for a $200 savings (assuming it's $999).
The screen is of the same quality?
     
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May 15, 2010, 09:38 PM
 
my old MacBook used to have an IR receiver and firewire port, and it was only 16% slower.
     
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May 15, 2010, 10:13 PM
 
Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
No, the MacBook and iMac don't have ambient light sensors.
Wha-huh? Since when do iMacs not have the light sensor? My 2005 iMac G5 had one.
     
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May 15, 2010, 10:20 PM
 
Not for display brightness though, but for sleep light brightness. Aluminum iMacs don't have sleep lights, so no ALS.
     
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May 16, 2010, 03:41 AM
 
Correct.

Also, yes, the MacBook Pros have a much better screen.
     
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May 16, 2010, 03:46 AM
 
Originally Posted by macaddict0001 View Post
I don't think the resolution is high enough to make out the bar code, but I could be wrong.
Even so, you can clearly make out the three MAC addresses. If Apple wanted this would easily allow them to track it down.
     
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May 16, 2010, 03:51 AM
 
Originally Posted by Simon View Post
• angled MagSafe conector
I just noticed that the Late 2009 Macbook already came with the angled MagSafe plug.

Apple - MacBook - All about the design of the unibody MacBook.
     
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May 16, 2010, 03:55 AM
 
So bottom line is you save $200 by giving up on
• Al case
• FW
• 2GB RAM
• backlit KB
• and some other gimmicks

Am I the only one who thinks this is a bad deal? Shouldn't this MB sell for no more than $899?
     
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May 16, 2010, 04:56 AM
 
Originally Posted by Simon View Post
So bottom line is you save $200 by giving up on
• Al case
• FW
• 2GB RAM
• backlit KB
• and some other gimmicks

Am I the only one who thinks this is a bad deal? Shouldn't this MB sell for no more than $899?
The auto-adjusting screen is less of a "gimmick" than the backlit KB IMO.

Screen quality is also not a "gimmick".

So yes, while the price difference is rather small for what you're giving up, Apple's strategy works THE OTHER WAY ROUND:

"Hey, look how much more you're getting for just that €250! The MacBook Pro is a much better deal!"

It's called "upsell" for a reason.
     
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May 16, 2010, 05:17 AM
 
I use the backlit KB all the time. I never use auto-adjust brightness (I have keys for that). To me the latter is quite clearly the gimmick.

I buy the upsell argument. But I doubt they'll sell a whole lot of these mediocre MBs at $999.
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May 16, 2010, 05:54 AM
 
Originally Posted by Simon View Post
I use the backlit KB all the time. I never use auto-adjust brightness (I have keys for that). To me the latter is quite clearly the gimmick.
Heh. On my 15" PowerBook, it was the exact opposite:

I really appreciated the auto-dimming, while the silver keys forced me to keep adjusting the keyboard backlighting, as it was useless in most "intermediate" environments.
     
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May 16, 2010, 06:54 AM
 
Backlighting on the Al keys sucked compared to the backlit black keys on the new MBPs. There's much more contrast with the new KB. It helps a lot.
     
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May 16, 2010, 07:19 AM
 
Originally Posted by Simon View Post
Backlighting on the Al keys sucked compared to the backlit black keys on the new MBPs. There's much more contrast with the new KB. It helps a lot.
I like the subtle glow of my aluminum MBP keys, but functionally you're very right-they aren't great in those "in-between" lighting situations. Quite dark or pretty light they're fine. But black keys do show up the lighting much, much better.

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May 16, 2010, 07:33 AM
 
Yep
     
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May 16, 2010, 11:13 AM
 
Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
Not for display brightness though, but for sleep light brightness. Aluminum iMacs don't have sleep lights, so no ALS.
Oh right. Forgot that’s what it was for. Makes sense.
     
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May 17, 2010, 07:51 AM
 
Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
The auto-adjusting screen is less of a "gimmick" than the backlit KB IMO.

Screen quality is also not a "gimmick".

So yes, while the price difference is rather small for what you're giving up, Apple's strategy works THE OTHER WAY ROUND:

"Hey, look how much more you're getting for just that €250! The MacBook Pro is a much better deal!"

It's called "upsell" for a reason.
Upselling generally means to pull in people with a cheap entry-level price and then selling them extras on which you have much better margins. That's not what Apple is doing - they could easily stand to sell the rumored MB at $899.

That said, the extras in this case don't cost very much.
The new Mac Pro has up to 30 MB of cache inside the processor itself. That's more than the HD in my first Mac. Somehow I'm still running out of space.
     
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May 17, 2010, 08:31 PM
 
Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
The auto-adjusting screen is less of a "gimmick" than the backlit KB IMO.
For my applications, the backlit keyboard is not a gimmick. I like to use my computer in dim lighting, and while my fingers find the "home" keys easily, I've never been good with the number row or the F keys without looking at what I'm doing. With my original version MBP, that subtle backlighting makes it easy for me to use the computer in any lighting environment without the keyboard overwhelming the room or making it hard to see the screen for the glare. One man's gimmick may be another's selling point.

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May 18, 2010, 06:23 AM
 
The update is going up on stores now, 2.4GHz, 320M graphics and 10 hour battery.

Macbook refresh gets official with 10-hour battery -- Engadget

It'll be much easier if you just comply.
     
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May 18, 2010, 07:34 AM
 
It's interesting to note that it comes with a 63.5 Wh battery which corresponds to the same 10 hour battery life the 13" MBP has.

The Vietnamese leak originally showed a box indicating 7 hours of battery life. The box also said ©2009 so maybe it was just an old box. The specs are printed on a sticker. Perhaps Apple had some old boxes left.



     
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May 18, 2010, 10:06 AM
 
Wish it was $899, but whateva. Apple clearly doesn't listen to my wisdom
     
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May 18, 2010, 09:49 PM
 
I find the auto-dimming screen annoying and gimmicky. The backlit keyboard is totally awesome though.
     
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May 19, 2010, 02:41 AM
 
Most people I know have the same opinion, myself included.
     
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May 19, 2010, 04:41 AM
 
I'm perfectly fine with not sharing most people's opinion in this matter.
     
   
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