[olePigeon]

I have horrible migraines. Other than taking my meds (which subdues it, but doesn't get rid of it), anyone else have any recommendations?

About twice a year I get horrible migraines that last for 3 or 4 days (occular something or another, I can't remember.) During its peak I have a hard time seeing cuz the capilaries in my eyes start pulsating and all I see are black vein thingies. It's of serious concern cuz I'm only 26, though there's technically nothing wrong with me. I remember seeing a video of some guy that ended up committing suicide cuz his migraines would last for weeks. Hope mine don't get that bad. 4 days is enough for me.

Anyone else have migraines? Any suggestions? I take two pills, one is some caffeine thingy and the other is a suped up ibuprofen, but I'm looking for maybe drinks or foods that'll help.

[Dark Helmet]

Sounds horrible. Talk to your doctor about any new PREVENTATIVE medications.

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Sounds horrible. Talk to your doctor about any new PREVENTATIVE medications.

I'm taking them.

I'm looking for other stuff to do outside of meds.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by olePigeon

I'm taking them.

I'm looking for other stuff to do outside of meds.

Try a different type of med.

The only thing I know about headaches is that if I have one I shouldn't drink dairy as it makes it worse. Don't know if that is true.

Look into a naturopathic medicine.

[Cody Dawg]

They're called ocular migraines, yep.

I get them.

In the center of my field of vision I'll start to see a tiny blank spot, then it grows larger and it looks like water running over glass. It gets larger and larger until I can't see anything at all. Then it goes away and I get a banging bad migraine.

My solution is this:

1. When it starts to come on I take two extra strength Motrin and drink a big glass of regular Coke with caffeine.
2. Lay down and take a nap in a dark room
3. Stay away from MacNN - or television - for the rest of the day and rest my eyes.

I've taken all the drugs, narcotics, you name it and none of it works. But the formula I gave you above is the one that works for me.

Good luck.

[RAILhead]

I've been a migraine sufferer for over 20 years. Let me know what prescription meds you're taking for yours and I'll give my recommendations.

[Rumor]

Try

[version]

Have you had your sinuses checked out? You might have an issue there.

[cjrivera]

What meds are you on or have worked (at least somewhat?)

Is there something possibly triggering the headaches?

Is there anything that actually helps the headaches?

[Cody Dawg]

version:

I can tell you're a physician or in the medical field.

[version]

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

version:

I can tell you're a physician or in the medical field.

aww, thank you, but nearly there. Most of my family are in the medical profession, and whenever any of us comes down with something, we harass the relations for advice. I did learn a wee bit about various things when I was in the Royal Marines... but that's another life.

My brother had major headaches and migraines for years. Finally my cousin suggested it might be his sinuses. If I remember correctly, there are sinus plates that are firmed much like the plates of the earth. By massaging these and re-aligning them, you can alleviate quite a number of other problems. My understanding of this might be a bit off, but definitely have the sinuses looked at.

Also, look for any blockages in your nasal passage. You could have a polyp, or inflamed turbinate. So many things up there that can bring on severe migraines.

Definitely see a an ENT specialist.

[MrsLarry]

Originally Posted by cjrivera

Is there something possibly triggering the headaches?

I get migraines too, i've learned that about 40% of my migraines are caused by overcast days (weird huh?), 40% from PMS (sorry boys, but it's true!) and the rest of them well, unknown as of yet


the days i wake up and "just know" it's coming, i pop two extra strength excedrin before i leave the house and usually that works, at the very least to dull the headache if not prevent it entirely. once it's come though, no cure for me except for a nap in the dark

good luck dude!

[JellyBeen]

I see a lot of people with migraines. The single biggest culprit is caffeine. Drinking caffeine can releave headaches but its also the cause of MOST headaches believe it or not.
Do a simple test. Stop all sources of caffeine (coffee, soda etc)including chocolate. If you don't get a horrible HA within 3-5 days then your not sensitive to caffeine and its effects. The HA you will experience if you do will be because of the withdrawl effect. Caffeine is a stimulant that causes vasoconstriction of your blood vessels. When you are in withdrawal, your blood vessels are in vasodilatation and thats where the HA's start.
The irony is that many OTC medication has caffeine in it to relieve HA's. The person gets caught up in a loop and can't get out of the dependance.

Tell us how it went.

[Railroader]

I take Relpax currently. VERY expensive and it it not a preventive medicine. I only take it when I feel a migraine coming on. I have not experienced any bad side effects. Only good ones, like the feeling you have when waking up from a long nap.

I have the same headaches as you it seems. Seasonal, with the worst occuring when the weather changes drastically. It feels like someone driving a spike into my Left eye.

I once had one for 2+ months. I didn't feel suicidal, but I wasn't the happiest guy in the city.

Axert has also worked very well for me, but it is so expensive that VERY few health plans pay for it. $30+ a pill. I often had to take two. Makes that $5 for 100 asprin seem like pennies eh?

[gems]

I get migraines from weird fluctuations in the barometric pressure. True!

Feels like someone is slicing my brain in half with a saw. And it effects my vision like a reverse tunnel vision. The centre of my sight is dark grey and very cloudy, pain behind and above the eyes, dizziness while my peripheral vision is ok.

I was prescribed some drug (began with s) that I was supposed to take as soon as I felt a migraine coming on...didn't work.

For some reason, doctors won't prescribe the best pain killer for it, MORPHINE!!!

Codeine is also good. I take generic ACC tablets. or Tylonal 3 if I can get them.

Haven't had one for a few years now, thankfully.

[seanc]

I heard that some migranes have been linked to a hole in the heart, the BBC has a link to this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4793634.stm

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Railrodent

blah blah blah I am not supposed to be here....

[turtle777]

Rolling Bones on the Ca$h trip

-t

[ambush]

Have you tried Weed?

What about LSD?

LSD was studied in the 1960s by Eric Kast as a painkiller for serious and chronic pain caused by cancer or other major trauma[8]. Even at low (sub-psychedelic) dosages, it was found to be at least as effective as traditional opiates while being much longer lasting (pain reduction lasting as long as a week after peak effects had subsided). Kast attributed this effect to a decrease in anxiety. This reported effect is being tested (though not using LSD) in an ongoing (as of 2006) study of the effects of the hallucinogen psilocybin on anxiety in terminal cancer patients.

Furthermore, LSD has been illicitly used as a treatment for cluster headaches, an uncommon but extremely painful disorder.

What are cluister headaches? (Sounds similar to your illness)

Cluster headache sufferers typically experience very severe headaches of a piercing quality near one eye or temple that last for fifteen minutes to three hours. The headaches are unilateral and occasionally change sides.
Cluster headaches are frequently associated with drooping eyelids, conjunctival injection (which results in red, watery eyes), tearing, constricted pupil, eyelid edema, nasal congestion, runny nose, and sweating on the affected side of the face. The neck is often stiff or tender in association with cluster headaches, and jaw and teeth pain is sometimes reported.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_headache
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD

[Railroader]

Originally Posted by Railrodent

BAN ME NOW!!!

Looks like I have a little fan boi. Children are so funny sometimes.

[Railroader]

And then... he was banned.

[ambush]

You really needed a double post.

Stop the Railroader hate club, people.

Love the sinner and the ignorant.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by ambush

You really needed a double post.

Stop the Railroader hate club, people.

Love the sinner and the ignorant.

I don't hate him. I just wish he'd take responsibilities for his actions.

[ambush]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I don't hate him. I just wish he'd take responsibilities for his actions.

AHGAHAH YOU'RE ROLLING BONES.

GG

[Railroader]

You have dishes to do ambush!

[ambush]

Nope.

You have Prozac to ingest!

[Railroader]

Is that what your shrink told you?

Dishes. Now!

[ambush]

Originally Posted by Railroader

Is that what your shrink told you?

Dishes. Now!

I said: Xanax, then Ambien.

And then that new fat burning pill

[KeriVit]

ANYWAY! Back to migraines. Here's what I find works:

As SOON as you feel it coming on... take a BC Powder. Only BC.

and then lay down with an icepack. If you have got it soon enuff, should pass within 30 minutes, If the pain comes- and I KNOW it hurts- it is too late.

I have taken Imitrex and Relpax. but BC powder works best.

Only other thing that might have helped was Nasonex spray and aspirin for some strange reason.

[cjrivera]

BC powder?

[Railroader]

Originally Posted by ambush

I said: Xanax, then Ambien.

And then that new fat burning pill

You certainly know your mind altering drugs don't you. Is reality that difficult for you to cope with?

You don't like fat guys?

[Demonhood]

Originally Posted by JellyBeen

I see a lot of people with migraines. The single biggest culprit is caffeine. Drinking caffeine can releave headaches but its also the cause of MOST headaches believe it or not.
Do a simple test. Stop all sources of caffeine (coffee, soda etc)including chocolate. If you don't get a horrible HA within 3-5 days then your not sensitive to caffeine and its effects. The HA you will experience if you do will be because of the withdrawl effect. Caffeine is a stimulant that causes vasoconstriction of your blood vessels. When you are in withdrawal, your blood vessels are in vasodilatation and thats where the HA's start.
The irony is that many OTC medication has caffeine in it to relieve HA's. The person gets caught up in a loop and can't get out of the dependance.

Tell us how it went.

i'd just like to reiterate this point. after my first unexpected and completely debilitating migraine, my doctor mentioned the caffeine angle. i never drank coffee, but i'd have a caffeinated soda every now and then. over the winter break i guess i didn't have any and the headaches ramped up until the badness came.

i cut caffeine out of my diet (i have maybe one caffeinated beverage a month, for kicks) and i haven't had a super severe migraine since. stress and other factors can still bring on some mild ones, but at least i can still function.

[Railroader]

A caffeine addiction withdrawl is VERY painful. But not nearly as bad as 90% of my migraines.

But a it is good advice to cut out all caffeine if you have migraine headaches.

SIDE NOTE: My brother-in-law lost all credibility with me after he said that he theorizes that there's really no such thing as a "migraine headache". "It's simply a bad headache" he said. He's a clinical psychologist with his doctorate. I have never wished a migraine headache on any one, but I was tempted after hearing him say that.

[abe]

FIRST STEP IF YOU DECIDE TO TRY CUTTING STUFF OUT YOUR DIET: ELIMINATE CAFFEINE.

Next, cut out ALL SUGAR AND SWEETENERS.

Then check out fasting.

fasting to relieve migraines

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[Railroader]

Originally Posted by abe

fasting to relieve migraines

http://www.google.com/search?client=...UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Fasting will give me a migraine about 99% of the time.

ON A SIDE NOTE: What do you think your actual original posting to quoting of other sources ratio is? I'll bet you quote sources about 80% more in your posts than actual original content from yourself. I'll bet you come up with a good quote and link in reply to this.

[Ozmodiar]

I get the oculars, too. I pretty much do what Cody does: take an analgesic and rest my eyes.

[abe]

Originally Posted by Railroader

Fasting will give me a migraine about 99% of the time.

ON A SIDE NOTE: What do you think your actual original posting to quoting of other sources ratio is? I'll bet you quote sources about 80% more in your posts than actual original content from yourself. I'll bet you come up with a good quote and link in reply to this.

"You are correct, sir!" SNL's Phil Hartman imitating Tonight Show host Johnny Carson's sidekick, Ed McMahon.

Henry Ford said, "Why should I clutter my mind with general information when I have men around me who can supply any knowledge I need?"

Why not get the info straight from the source? What value could I add to it?

When the combined knowledge and information of the world is, now for the first time in history, at our FINGERTIPS it is amazing to me how little we make use of it sometimes.

And I doubt there are many here who would say my humble little personality is overshadowed by the many sources I bring to the table.

People sometimes get annoyed that I think I'm always right. Which do you think came first, my desire to be accurate or my curiosity about the world?

End of derail.

[ambush]

Ohhhh caffeine addiction withdrawal is painful.... cry me a river

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by ambush

Ohhhh caffeine addiction withdrawal is painful.... cry me a river

We forgot, you are MR drug guy that has done everything at 12.

[ambush]

Uh, no.

[Kevin]

Then quit acting like it.

Withdrawl from ANYTHING is a pain. I've done the caffiene thing, the nicotine thing, and the opiate thing.

They all sucked.

[Railroader]

Originally Posted by ambush

Ohhhh caffeine addiction withdrawal is painful.... cry me a river

You obviously haven't went through it. Count yourself lucky.

[Tenacious Dyl]

Alright... THIS is a topic for me I've had horrible migraines for the last 3 years. The intensity is so bad I often throw up, and at times the frequency has been 10-15 a month. At times, I missed a LOT of class, and had to meet with teachers when I could think, and yes.... it was HORRIBLE. I still get them, although they are less frequent than they used to be.

1) Caffeiene: I am *not* a regular caffeine drinker (be it pop, coffee, etc) So my migraines are not from withdrawl. I find that if I catch a migraine early enough (sometimes mine build in intensity, other times they strike almost full-force) something simple like a can of coke or mountain dew will dumb it down a little.

2) Prescriptions / Injections: Screw that sh**. I've been giving at least 7 (I think 8 exactly?) different prescriptions to date. None helped at all. One made it worse. Many of them had side effects. Its worth a try I suppose, but Migraines are still one of the great medical mysteries out there...

3) Brain Games: I find that at the *onset* of a migraine, if I do certain things with my behavior, it can help. Through coincidental acts, I found that *sorting change* at the very *beginning* will help a lot. The background story to this... at a time when my migraines occured at a ridiculous frequency, it got to a point where I couldn't just neglect all activity, eventhough I felt like death. Otherwise things would never get done. A friend gave me $25 in pennies as a joke, and I was sitting down to sort them (I love to fidget) Well, I was about to sit down, hoping to find some interesting treasures, and a migraine started. I said screw it, I'm not laying down, and started sorting change. Needless to say, it regressed quite quickly, with much less pain.

I think that coin sorting was perfect. It kept my hands, my eyes, etc busy. It kept my brain busy, at each of the 2500 pennies I was thinking "Canadian?" "Wheat-backed?" etc. At yet... (as typical of my migraines) it didn't pose questions or frustrations that are greatly multiplied by the migraine. When I watch TV with a headache, rarely is the show good enough to help keep my mind off my head. Sports and other such physical things are out of the question, sunlight too. I tried to think of other activities that would be as easy / frustration free as sorting change, but that also keep your focus / mind / eyes / body going, that aren't too physical or demanding. I couldn't. It seems to be perfect fit.

However... if you have occular migraines, then an activity with your eyes is probably out of the question. Anyone else here... give this change thing a shot... really!

[spatterson]

http://www.immunesupport.com/5htp.htm Try 5-HTP, or atleast do some research into it. Its a herb, and its said to help migrains. Just do some research or ask around if its helped.... I haven't taken it personally, but my friend keeps urging me too.

[abe]

http://www.detailshere.com/howdoesaspirinwork.htm

How does aspirin work???
This is an eye opener!

PHARMACEUTICAL "THERAPY"

If you have a headache, the doctor prescribes aspirin. The headache
disappears and everyone is happy. No one ever asked the question,
"What caused the headache?". Based on the treatment prescribed
and the resultant "cure", we can conclude that the headache was
caused by an "aspirin deficiency". However, a little research will tell
us that aspirin is composed of salicylic acid - an absolute poison to
the body, thus an "aspirin deficiency" is out of the question. In fact,
any drug on the market, we will find, is composed of chemical toxins
which are poisonous to humans. How then can drugs alleviate
symptoms, cure ills, wipe out disease and generally make us feel better
if they are poisonous?

To understand how drugs "cure" symptoms, let us look a little deeper
into how aspirin takes away a pain. Did you know that aspirin will relieve
any pain in the body, whether it be a headache or a toe ache? The only
exception to this is stomach pain. Aspirin will not help stomach pain.
Ask the pharmacist how aspirin works, he will tell you that it has some
sort of numbing effect over the entire body, so regardless of where
the pain is, it is relieved. But isn't the stomach part of the body?
Why doesn't aspirin take care of stomach pain? He will reply that
this is one of the great mysteries of aspirin.

Let's say you are out on the farm hunting and you get a thorn in your
finger. It is quite sore, so you decide to head back to your truck to
get some tweezers to take care of the problem. As you pass through
the barn yard you step on a nail. Do you still feel the pain of the thorn
in your finger, in fact do you even remember it is there? Was it suddenly
cured when you stepped on the nail? No, not at all. Then why is the thorn
no longer a concern? Simply because your body now has a higher priority -
something more life threatening to worry about - the nail in the foot.
Then as you are passing through the barbed wire fence to finally reach
your truck, you shoot your toe off with the shotgun (the other foot of course). Are you now aware of the thorn? No. How about the hole in your foot from
the rusty nail. I don't think so. Why not? Once again the body shifted its
focus to the most life threatening situation. There is only x amount of
energy in the body. If we createa crisis in one part of the body, energy
must be "borrowed" from other parts of the body to cope with the crisis.

Every aspirin (buffered or not) causes a teaspoon worth of bleeding in
the stomach. If you have a headache, which is generally caused by toxic
blood from something we've eaten which is harmful to us, and you take
an aspirin causing internal bleeding,which do you think would be more
life threatening? In most cases the internal bleeding. The body must now
shift its attention to the higher priority problem (stomach), and the headache
disappears. Did the aspirin remove the toxins from the blood stream?
Not at all, just created a more life threatening situation. If the aspirin does not take away the headache, it simply means that the internal bleeding is
not more life threatening than the toxic blood. So now take six aspirin,
and a more life theatening situation will take place in the stomach and the
headache dissipates. Why doesn't aspirin take care of stomach pain? If you
have stomach pain then your body's attention is already focused on
the stomach. Additional stress there willnot force the body to shift its
attention elsewhere in the body. Tylenol, however, will alleviate stomach
pain because it plays havoc with the liver, causing the body to move its
attention from stomach to liver. Thus all drugs produce symptomatic relief
without actually removing the cause. A drug "cures" your complaint by
creating a disease of its own. If the poison of the drug, whatever drug you
want to name, is more life threatening to the body than the symptom for
which you took the drug (or the doctor's prescription for such), then your
symptoms will disappear. If the drug is not more lifethreatening, then it
will not produce symptomatic relief and the doctor willprescribe a stronger,
more poisonous, more life threatening drug. Now the body will be forced to
focus on the drug so that the drug literally doesn't kill the body. You become
symptom free. Yet the cause of the disease was not eliminated, and true
healing did not take place. Since there is no such thing as a drug deficiency,
the body simply put the disease process on hold to eliminate the drug.

How many children do you know that take antibiotics for infections?
The antibiotic stops the symptoms. As soon as the antibiotic is stopped,
the infection returns. It is because the antibiotic does not kill the infection,
rather the antibiotic is so toxic to the liver and rest of the body, that the body
must wall off, or put on "hold" the infective process to deal with the drug
before it kills the body. Once the drug is dealt with, the body will, as soon as it
has built up adequate nutrients and energies, resume the cleansing process
via the infection. If the taking of the antibiotic was so devitalizing to the body,
lowering its frequency, the infection may not return, only a more serious
chronic disease at a later date.

One of the great laws of nature is the law of cause and effect. We do not gain
anything without working for it. Diseases are not "caught", they are earned by
not taking care of our bodies. How then can we not stop doing the wrong that
made us sick, take a drug and get well? It is the same as the drunk saying,
"Sober me up with a pill, but let me keep drinking". Impossible to do. Disease
is no exception.

When anesthetic is administered to knock one out for surgery, the same principle applies. The anesthetic is so poisonous to the body, that the body must put itself to sleep to free up the tremendous amount of energy that is used for consciousness. This energy is then utilized to eliminate the toxic anesthetic from the body before it causes death. Why do you think people are so sick and groggy after surgery. Why do something like 2% of people who undergo surgery die from the anesthetic if it weren't a poison? Different drugs rob energy from different parts of the body, thus they have various effects or "cure" different symptoms. The bottom line is that they rob energy from the body, change the body's priorities to focus on the drug - a more life threatening situation - and the cause is not eliminated. We are actually still sick, just as some must stay on drugs a lifetime to stay symptom free, constantly increasing the dose as they become sicker and sicker. Others are "cured" by the drug and can stop taking it, only to face another more serious disease down the road. If we would just listen to the body when we become ill, let the illness tell us our symptoms are due to something wrong we are doing (wrong diet or life style), stop doing it, then the illness as well as the need for drugs would be eliminated
and a more healthy life would result.

Side-Effects

"Side-effects" which often result when drugs are administered are the body's effort at eliminating the drug. Eg.: breaking out in a skin rash - body pushing drug out through skin, getting drowsy - body conserving conscious energy in order to stay alive while eliminating the drug.

The Logic of Drug Therapy?

Drug therapy defies all logic when we consider that any drug administered to a healthy person will make him sick, and yet the doctor prescibes these very poisons to a sick person and expects him to get well. How can a body be poisoned back to health?

[ambush]

Originally Posted by Railroader

You obviously haven't went through it. Count yourself lucky.

drug addict

[Railroader]

Not any more!

[cjrivera]

Originally Posted by abe

http://www.detailshere.com/howdoesaspirinwork.htm



blah blah blah
and more meaningless crap...

How the heck did you find this crap?

[Railroader]

Originally Posted by cjrivera

How the heck did you find this crap?

I was too [INSERT FEELING HERE] to comment on abe's [INSERT RUDE ADJECTIVE HERE] post.

Thank you for putting into words what I should have said.

[stevesnj]

yeah i get ocular migraines and it was a bad episodes from 18 to 25 then they dropped off significantly. I was at 2 a week and i was almost on the verge of killing myself! But I think for me it was testosterone related. I have a high natural testosterone level and during this time I was more 'active' so to speak and so were my migraines. But with my decrease in testosterone level I get a migraine every 2-3 months. I found percocet to be the best for me or Excedrine for migraines. Good luck...they will eventually will reduce I hope. But a trigger of mine seems to be corn meal...weird but thats what will definately give me a migraine.