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Toyin · Jul 18, 2002, 08:58 PM

Because 10.1.5 sucks ass on my system. I can't wake from sleep more than 2 or 3 times without having to force reboot. Upon waking from sleep all the applications running will continue to perform (partially) but no new apps can launch. I even tried keeping a terminal window open so I could sudo shutdown -now but that doesn't work(the terminal freezes). IE and Mail cannot perfrom any new networking tasks, but IE can call up old pages in it's recent history. iTunes can still play mp3s.

I've run fsck more times then I can count
I even backed up all my data, zeroed the drive and started from scratch and still get the same crap.

Considering that 10.1.4 never crashed and was never rebooted this is quite dissappointing.

mark9939 · Jul 18, 2002, 09:33 PM

I doubt it - I guess you'll have to wait til Jag; or go back to 10.1.4 <img border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" title="" src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" />

KidRed · Jul 18, 2002, 09:35 PM

Sorry to hear, I have no probs with 10.1.5 on 3 macs. Machine you should start fresh?

[email protected] · Jul 18, 2002, 10:01 PM

are you working with ALL fresh preferences after the reinstall? i've found problems with 'corrupt' prefs in X...

it's simple, but it fixed my last set of issues.

what's your peripheral setup? current drivers all around?

i find 10.1.5 to be quite stable on an array of machines.

IUJHJSDHE · Jul 18, 2002, 10:08 PM

Maybe, they made a 9.2 after X was out.

But probably no, just wait for jaguar. I myself am staying with 10.1.4 for quite a while longer.

I don't upgrade right away.

Leia Shoots Like a Girl · Jul 18, 2002, 10:41 PM

Hell no! Why do you think that Apple will come out with a 10.1.6 when 10.2 ships in a month?! Gimmie a break man.

sniffer · Jul 19, 2002, 07:42 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Toyin:
Because 10.1.5 sucks ass on my system. I can't wake from sleep more than 2 or 3 times without having to force reboot. Upon waking from sleep all the applications running will continue to perform (partially) but no new apps can launch. I even tried keeping a terminal window open so I could sudo shutdown -now but that doesn't work(the terminal freezes). IE and Mail cannot perfrom any new networking tasks, but IE can call up old pages in it's recent history. iTunes can still play mp3s.

I've run fsck more times then I can count
I even backed up all my data, zeroed the drive and started from scratch and still get the same crap.

Considering that 10.1.4 never crashed and was never rebooted this is quite dissappointing.<hr /></blockquote>Exactly the same thing happened to me!! Straight after upgrading there where several instabilities and even some force reboot. I too would have appreciated some bug fix/update before jag.
I even got some memory weirdness with a lot of pageouts, general slowness, and skipping videos in QT. Even iTunes skipped now and then. But for some reason, things seemed to stabilize it self sufficient after upgrading to iTunes 3. Still don't feel safe without terminal in bg yet, thought.

No idea what's going on here. See my <a href="http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=46;t=007545" target="_blank">thread here</a>!

korn · Jul 19, 2002, 07:49 AM

no � i would have had my hands on it by now � the problems youre reporting are not caused by 10.1.5 � i have 10.1.5 installed on 5 different macs , none of them have problems � sure you have no bad pirat stuff ?

edddeduck · Jul 19, 2002, 07:54 AM

My dualie at home now has wake from sleep problems... Clean install..

Dunno but I think it is a bug not corrupt prefs..

Cheers Edwin

sniffer · Jul 19, 2002, 08:14 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by korn:
no � i would have had my hands on it by now � the problems youre reporting are not caused by 10.1.5 � i have 10.1.5 installed on 5 different macs , none of them have problems � sure you have no bad pirat stuff ?<hr /></blockquote>No, that's not funny. I own a late 2001/2002 600mhz ibook. X was pre installed and on its own separated cd. Why should I use pirated stuff? :o

Cheez!

Toyin · Jul 19, 2002, 08:38 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Leia Shoots Like a Girl:
Hell no! Why do you think that Apple will come out with a 10.1.6 when 10.2 ships in a month?! Gimmie a break man.<hr /></blockquote>You're right, Apple has never upgraded the current OS after the successor has been announced. 10.2 is 39 days away if it's on time. I must be crazy to hope that Apple may release a bug fix. The way 10.1.5 is going that's only about 10-20 more force reboots and a lot of wasted time. Thanks for your insightful, thoughtful, and extremely helpful reply.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by korn:
no � i would have had my hands on it by now � the problems youre reporting are not caused by 10.1.5 � i have 10.1.5 installed on 5 different macs , none of them have problems � sure you have no bad pirat stuff ?<hr /></blockquote>This is a 10.1.5 problem. Like I said before 10.1.4 never required a reboot with the same hardware (a dual 500), peripherals, and software. I think my uptime was around 40days when I upgraded to 10.1.5

My software is legit. No warez crap and no experimental builds. The only preferences that I copied over from the previous install were for some 3rd party apps (ie Photoshop, Flash MX) so I didn't have to reinstall them.

Millennium · Jul 19, 2002, 09:46 AM

It wouldn't be unprecedented for Apple to go back to the 10.1 branch for one last meintenance release. But I don't think they'll actually do it this time.

mitchell_pgh · Jul 19, 2002, 10:16 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by IUJHJSDHE:
Maybe, they made a 9.2 after X was out.

But probably no, just wait for jaguar. I myself am staying with 10.1.4 for quite a while longer.

I don't upgrade right away.<hr /></blockquote>I'm jumping on 10.2 the day it comes out... 10.1.5 is OK, and everything seems fine (733Mhz tower) but I just can't stand playing Warcraft 3 and watching my people die because the system lags...

mitchell_pgh · Jul 19, 2002, 10:21 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by IUJHJSDHE:
Maybe, they made a 9.2 after X was out.

But probably no, just wait for jaguar. I myself am staying with 10.1.4 for quite a while longer.

I don't upgrade right away.<hr /></blockquote>I'm jumping on 10.2 the day it comes out... 10.1.5 is OK, and everything seems fine (733Mhz tower) but I just can't stand playing Warcraft 3 and watching my people die because the system lags...

Emotionally Fragile Luke · Jul 19, 2002, 01:02 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Toyin:
[QUOTE]You're right, Apple has never upgraded the current OS after the successor has been announced. 10.2 is 39 days away if it's on time. I must be crazy to hope that Apple may release a bug fix. The way 10.1.5 is going that's only about 10-20 more force reboots and a lot of wasted time. Thanks for your insightful, thoughtful, and extremely helpful reply.<hr /></blockquote>Wish and whine all you want, you ain't gonna get it. For me 10.1.5 runs perfect and if you want an OS upgrade you are going to have to get 10.2.

Toyin · Jul 19, 2002, 03:35 PM

1 force reboot since my 1st post, only 19 or so more to go.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Emotionally Fragile Luke:
 Wish and whine all you want, you ain't gonna get it. For me 10.1.5 runs perfect and if you want an OS upgrade you are going to have to get 10.2.<hr /></blockquote>Thanks again for the help. I'm not whining I'm looking for anyone who might have insight to this problem or know of an impending bug fix. In fact until 10.1.4 OSX absolutely rocked on my system. Also, I never said I didn't plan on upgrading to 10.2. In fact with a Dual 500, 1.5gb of Ram, and AGP Radeon 10.2 will scream if it's even 25% faster than 10.1.x

[ 07-19-2002, 03:40 PM: Message edited by: Toyin ]

[email protected] · Jul 19, 2002, 07:30 PM

toyin, my daily system is the exact same system. [well, i have crammed a lot of drives into my machine (right now, i have 5 inside, one outside) and i'm running a second monitor over 128vr]

but i have learned one thing about sleep over the years. if it causes problems, don't use it. i never have sleep issues, cause i do not use it (except on the laptop).

my girlfriend has "that sleep problem" under 10.1.5 on her dual 450.

it's a lame answer, but it always works. don't use sleep, and it won't be a problem.

Toyin · Jul 28, 2002, 10:38 PM

I'll probably jinx myself with this post, but I removed my Library and all my system hacks (window shade, Fruit menu, Tinkertool) and all my menubar items (PTH CPU monitor, PTH Clock, Weather pop, Netmonitor) and I've been up for 9 days now with no problems. I've added Netmonitor and PTH Clock back with no problems yet and I plan on adding all the system hacks one every few days..

It probably was just some corrupt preferences.

Thanks for the replies.

Back up 15 and punt · Jul 28, 2002, 10:52 PM

The only way Apple would come up with 10.1.6 is if it affects the loading of Jaguar. Outside of this......Forget it.

Yoda's Erotic Piggyback · Jul 29, 2002, 01:13 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Back up 15 and punt:
The only way Apple would come up with 10.1.6 is if it affects the loading of Jaguar. Outside of this......Forget it.<hr /></blockquote>As all the beta install fine over 10.1 I don't see why they would need to. Also you can't buy 10.2 and be told to install 10.1.6 first. Not gonna happen.

bartman00 · Jul 29, 2002, 04:12 AM

My powermac can't wake from sleep.. it ether goes nuts or wont even.. If I click the mouse button the led(optical mouse) will strobe with every click but it will not wake.. just another reason I firmly see 10.2 as a patch not an upgrade.. Apple can take my 3 free up-to-date tickets I got with my ibook and shove them.. I'm NOT paying for 10.2 just because it has alot of "free" new iapps that I don't want!...

Jerommeke · Jul 29, 2002, 05:10 AM

I guess no.

10.2 is the beginning of the paradise now, and 10.1.x is now destinated for Planet Trash.

Now you gotta again pay a h*ll lot of money because people using Apple's have money and Apple has the right to get every single penny, euro, and all other smallest units in every currencies out of it.

That's Apple's new way of thinking.

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