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JayJay1974 · Mar 29, 2002, 04:03 PM

Can anyone steer me in the right direction for this? I have a cable connection at my parents' place (I just moved out) and I wish to connect to the net over a dail-up connection to the computer connected via a cable modem. I pretty sure this can be done. Does it involve NAT? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
JJ

Sarc · Mar 29, 2002, 05:06 PM

to what end ?
sharing files or sharing your parent's computer so you can use the cable iNet conection ?
if you're intrested in the first, you can enable FTP access or Allow Remote Login (both under sharing in system prefs.
the latter I don't know how it's done ... but I doubt that it involves NAT, nat is for sharing one IP with many computers on a LAN.

Sarc

BigMac2 · Mar 29, 2002, 05:13 PM

That will involve a NAT and a PPP server...
this is one comming with OSX, try man pppd for more info.

JayJay1974 · Mar 29, 2002, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Sarc:
to what end ?
sharing files or sharing your parent's computer so you can use the cable iNet conection ?
if you're intrested in the first, you can enable FTP access or Allow Remote Login (both under sharing in system prefs.
the latter I don't know how it's done ... but I doubt that it involves NAT, nat is for sharing one IP with many computers on a LAN.

Sarc

I wish to do this so I don't have to have a second ISP account (saving me $$ as I still pay for the cable connection) and so I can (hopefully) get better download speeds, as I would be the only user connected to the computer at my parents place. So the remote computer would just become a router (or a proxy server? If that's correct). I also wish to use the remote computer as a web server, but that's another story.

nuckin futs · Mar 29, 2002, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by JayJay1974:
I have a cable connection at my parents' place (I just moved out) and I wish to connect to the net over a dail-up connection to the computer connected via a cable modem.

I think you'll run into 1 major problem...BOTTLENECK

no matter how fast your cablemodem connection is at your parent's place, you will be connecting to that computer using a 56kbps modem. so in theory, you'll only be getting a 56kbps connection. right?
can someone correct me if i'm wrong.

BTP · Mar 29, 2002, 10:06 PM

This is not really a good idea, and will not allow you to have greater speeds. Sorry.

Drizzt · Mar 29, 2002, 10:09 PM

He wants that to save money..

Possible Yes.. Legal? Unlikely..

Up here in Quebec.. if your ISP get's to know this.. you're sued..

BigMac2 · Mar 29, 2002, 11:05 PM

Originally posted by Drizzt:
He wants that to save money..

Possible Yes.. Legal? Unlikely..

Up here in Quebec.. if your ISP get's to know this.. you're sued..

That's bullshit, I work for Videotron, and they do nothing about it, but don't call us for tech support after you screw up your connection.

Drizzt · Mar 30, 2002, 12:47 AM

Videotron too the big ways to prevent this..

Port 80 ans 25 is blocked..

Also.. in the EULA, they say that you must pay access for each machine going on the net.. I don't know if they enforce it or what.. but it's there..

Sympatico allow "everything" (you can have 3 similtaneous connections) unless you ask money for it..

eno · Mar 30, 2002, 01:35 AM

Originally posted by Drizzt:
He wants that to save money..

Possible Yes.. Legal? Unlikely..

Up here in Quebec.. if your ISP get's to know this.. you're sued..

Calm down. No need to have a hissy fit.

If this is done properly the ISP need never know about it. And why should they care anyway?

I couldn't give a damn if they're greedy and want more money.

larkost · Mar 30, 2002, 01:56 AM

If this works at all you are going to probably need a port of mgetty, I am not aware of one, but that might be a starting point.

A second note, the best you will ever get is 33.6 speeds. 56K requires that the server be on a digital connection to the telephone exchange. I assure you that your parent's home does not qualify.

V0ID · Mar 30, 2002, 03:03 AM

OS9 has a built-in PPP server. I'm not sure of the details, as it's been a while since I was interested in this, but with OS9 you need two machines. One running the NAT software, and the other running remote access. It's not possible to run NAT and use remote access for PPP on the same machine (you would be able to dial in and access the local network, but not the internet).

BigMac2 · Apr 1, 2002, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by V0ID:
OS9 has a built-in PPP server. I'm not sure of the details, as it's been a while since I was interested in this, but with OS9 you need two machines. One running the NAT software, and the other running remote access. It's not possible to run NAT and use remote access for PPP on the same machine (you would be able to dial in and access the local network, but not the internet).

OS9 doesnt have Built-in PPP server, that come with ARA Server, now a part of AppleShare IP.

waffffffle · Apr 1, 2002, 03:11 AM

It's really easy to set up in OS 9. It can all be done from the remote access control panel and you don't need ASIP. However there is an issue with the machine that's connected to the modem needing to create a second IP for itself that it uses for the dial-up client. That didn't work on my campus network. It works fine on my home network because it was behind a hardware router. I don't think the cable company is going to let machines pick up 2 IPs.

V0ID · Apr 1, 2002, 07:57 AM

OS9 doesnt have Built-in PPP server, that come with ARA Server, now a part of AppleShare IP.

Ok, so ARA comes with OS9, and ARA can let clients connect using PPP.....

And waffffffle is right. It won't work if its connected directly to the modem, you need to put it behind a router (hardware or software).