[rampant]

Doesn't suprise me a bit, I don't know anyone who likes him.

[driven]

The folks around here don't like anyone or anything.

Oh yeah ... there is a widespread love of complaining and criticising.

It's kind of fun to watch.

[sambeau]

Originally posted by driven:
The folks around here don't like anyone or anything.

Oh yeah ... there is a widespread love of complaining and criticising.

It's kind of fun to watch.

ooo-oooh! pr-o-b-lemo!
what makes you so high and mighty?
sounds like complaint to me.
so who do you like, then...
..Old 'Bomb-em' Bush?
what do you like? .. anything?

[Mac Zealot]

Yay!

Gore was better anyway

[driven]

Originally posted by sambeau:


ooo-oooh! pr-o-b-lemo!
what makes you so high and mighty?
sounds like complaint to me.
so who do you like, then...
..Old 'Bomb-em' Bush?
what do you like? .. anything?

I am deeply in love with you.

[Millennium]

Hmm. So we have one thread that puts his approval rating at over 70%, and one that puts it at under 20%.

No doubt, the truth of the matter is somewhere between these two figures. This would be why I don't trust statistics: give the numbers just the right amount of tweaking, and you can make them say anything you want.

[driven]

Originally posted by Millennium:
Hmm. So we have one thread that puts his approval rating at over 70%, and one that puts it at under 20%.

No doubt, the truth of the matter is somewhere between these two figures. This would be why I don't trust statistics: give the numbers just the right amount of tweaking, and you can make them say anything you want.

Actually, where *IS* the link that puts him below 20% ??
The original poster never posted it. (At least not that I can see.)

(Or did he just do the poll around his school?)

[sambeau]

Originally posted by driven:


I am deeply in love with you.

Me too. I'm a deeply lovable kinda guy.
It's always a pleasure to meet me too..

[G4ME]

I am in love with all (hows that for some good fellings)

[lenkman]

Originally posted by driven:


Actually, where *IS* the link that puts him below 20% ??
The original poster never posted it. (At least not that I can see.)

(Or did he just do the poll around his school?)

Surely you know: 93.27% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

[G4ME]

nahh its more like 42.84%

[ringo]

C'mon, 96% of the statistics on this board are made up on the spot, without even an attempt to "prove" that they're true or not.

I'm staarting to wonder why anyone discusses anything here...all people do is ignore anything that doesn't agree with the opinion they had when the thread started. I can't think of a single time when someone changed their mind and admitted it.

And forget being a moderate, only wacko lefties/righties will be replied to (by other wacko lefties/righties).

Discussing politics/religion/computers/cars/life on the internet is like yelling in a canyon, and then arguing with your echo.

[L'enfanTerrible]

The results are in. 10% of MacNN Loungers are intelligent.

[sambeau]

Originally posted by ringo:

Discussing politics/religion/computers/cars/life on the internet is like yelling in a canyon, and then arguing with your echo.

so what about arguing about arguing about politics/religion/computers/cars/life on the internet?

Is that like yelling at your shadow in a mirror? ..

what would arguing at a photo of yourself typing an argument on the internet be?..what if you were in an internet cafe at the grand canyon? what if the cafe was in a photo on a postcard at home that you were looking at while discussing this topic on the internet? But you were in the cafe at the time the photo was taken. Arguing stuff on the internet..

aaaaggghh! time to go to bed! 0.3% of my brain is making sense

[driven]

Originally posted by L'enfanTerrible:
The results are in. 10% of MacNN Loungers are intelligent.

And we all know how the left LOVES to be in the majority .....

(Ducking for cover)

[L'enfanTerrible]

Originally posted by driven:



And we all know how the left LOVES to be in the majority .....

(Ducking for cover)

Well, on this board, the right is in the majority. Majority = mob mentality. I'd rather be unhip.

[rampant]

There is no 20% poll, I just made the topic because some other guy posted saying 70% of people love President Bush. Perhaps 70% of people love bush which doesn't suprise me, but not our president.

That 70% figure is manufactured garbage.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by driven:
The folks around here don't like anyone or anything.

Oh yeah ... there is a widespread love of complaining and criticising.

It's kind of fun to watch.

Everyone is a armchair president. ;-)

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by rampant:
There is no 20% poll, I just made the topic because some other guy posted saying 70% of people love President Bush. Perhaps 70% of people love bush which doesn't suprise me, but not our president.

That 70% figure is manufactured garbage.

Actually it never said 70% of the people LOVE bush, it said 70% of the people Think he is doing a ok job.

You know there are people out there that aren't Anti-Bush zealots.

Some don't like him, but think he is doing a good job.


I know I may have startled some of you with that last sentance, but it's ok.

[olePigeon]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Actually it never said 70% of the people LOVE bush, it said 70% of the people Think he is doing a ok job.

Actually, it said 70% of the 3,000 of the toal 400,000,000 people in America said he's doing a good job with Iraq.

So 2,100 people think he's doing the right thing for Iraq. Meanwhile the other 5.9 billion in the world disagree.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by olePigeon:


Actually, it said 70% of the 3,000 of the toal 400,000,000 people in America said he's doing a good job with Iraq.

So 2,100 people think he's doing the right thing for Iraq. Meanwhile the other 5.9 billion in the world disagree.

Yeah 5.9billion disagree.

How delusional

[driven]

Originally posted by L'enfanTerrible:


Well, on this board, the right is in the majority. Majority = mob mentality. I'd rather be unhip.

What board are you visiting?

This is MacNN ... the home of liberalism for Mac users everywhere!

[IUJHJSDHE]

Personaly I hate bush.

I think gore (love that name) should have won!

but i think his approval was pritty high

[Korv]

Originally posted by driven:


What board are you visiting?

This is MacNN ... the home of liberalism for Mac users everywhere!

Hahahahahahahahahehehehoihohohhaaaaaaaaa!

Oh. Good one!

[Millennium]

Originally posted by olePigeon:
Actually, it said 70% of the 3,000 of the toal 400,000,000 people in America said he's doing a good job with Iraq.

Um, last I checked, the population of the US was estimated at about 260 million, not 400 million.

So 2,100 people think he's doing the right thing for Iraq. Meanwhile the other 5.9 billion in the world disagree.

Not necessarily. Like I said, this is why I don't trust statistics. The sample's nowhere near large enough to be conclusive. Make it about 100 times larger, and then we'll start talking.

And, of course, "yes" and "no" are oversimplifying the issue here. Do I think Bush is doing the right thing? No. I think he's doing the Only Thing, even if it's not a Good Thing. The guy's proven over the last decade that he doesn't respond to diplomacy, so what evidence do we have that we shouldn't be trying another angle?

[BRussell]

Originally posted by Millennium:
Not necessarily. Like I said, this is why I don't trust statistics. The sample's nowhere near large enough to be conclusive. Make it about 100 times larger, and then we'll start talking.

1000 people out of 200 + million is enough to get the same results over and over again. The central limit theorem is your friend.

[rampant]

Lets see...

less than 25% of people voted for Bush.

And less than the number of people who voted for him still like him, now that he's shown his true colors. So I'd say it's under 25%.

[Korv]

Originally posted by rampant:
Lets see...

less than 25% of people voted for Bush.

And less than the number of people who voted for him still like him, now that he's shown his true colors. So I'd say it's under 25%.

You assume everyone who didn't vote for Bush doesn't like him. Not a safe assumption.

[deekay1]

Originally posted by Millennium:
...I think he's doing the Only Thing, even if it's not a Good Thing.

oh what crap. yeah, he has no other choice but to be an ignorant proto fascist war monger, what_ever!

Originally posted by Millennium:

The guy's proven over the last decade that he doesn't respond to diplomacy

ladies and gentlemen, the understatement of the decade!

face it, the only people on this planet who agree with him are [untservative americans...too bad there were enough to vote him into office.

[Kitschy]

The only place President Bush might get a 20% approval rating is on this board.

[shanraghan]

Originally posted by Zimphire:


Everyone is a armchair president. ;-)

Wrong. FDR was a wheelchair president.

[Korv]

Originally posted by Kitschy:
The only place President Bush might get a 20% approval rating is on this board.

Hahahahahahahhhaaaahahehehehehehoheohoehhahhaha! Another good one. Now, that's funny!

Seriously, what's with the macnn=liberal bit in this thread. This place is over-run with elephants and right-wingers. Weel... they're well represented, at least.

[Kitschy]

Have you not noticed?

Hm.

[OreoCookie]

Even if 90 % of the �people' agree with someone's course of action, it doesn't have to be right.
Germany has learned that the hard way.
There needs to be a moderator, something that keeps things from going to extremes.

By saying �either you are with us or against us', he disqualifies himself from a differentiated point of view of the world.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Korv:


Hahahahahahahhhaaaahahehehehehehoheohoehhahhaha! Another good one. Now, that's funny!

Seriously, what's with the macnn=liberal bit in this thread. This place is over-run with elephants and right-wingers. Weel... they're well represented, at least.

They are represented, it used to be more, but the leftist nutsjob ran them out.



For the most part MacNN is on the left. I'd say about 75%

Hey! Lets take a poll!

Liberal vs Conservative !

Just joking.

[BRussell]

Nah, there are just as many right-wingers as liberals here at MacNN. It just APPEARS that there are more libs, for two reasons:

1. Libs make logical, factually-based arguments, and so our posts stand out more and get more attention. Right-wingers argue from emotion, prejudice, and ignorance, and so their posts are usually just ignored.

2. Right-wingers are so intellectually overwhelmed by the aforementioned logic and empirical verification of libs' posts that they can't even post a response. They just sit at their computers and stare trembling, drool flowing from their lower lips.

So you see, it just SEEMS like there are more libs.

[OreoCookie]

Originally posted by BRussell:
1000 people out of 200 + million is enough to get the same results over and over again. The central limit theorem is your friend.

Not necessarily.

You always have to assume that the set of possible choices is small compared to the number of people asked. 5.9 billion people are really a lot.

[rampant]

Originally posted by OreoCookie:


Not necessarily.

You always have to assume that the set of possible choices is small compared to the number of people asked. 5.9 billion people are really a lot.

A fair voting method should apply to most of Arrow's Conditions- one of the most important being uniqueness- the same set up, done again, should produce the same results.

[voodoo]

Originally posted by BRussell:
1000 people out of 200 + million is enough to get the same results over and over again. The central limit theorem is your friend.

Right, but there are error margins.

[OreoCookie]

Originally posted by rampant:
A fair voting method should apply to most of Arrow's Conditions- one of the most important being uniqueness- the same set up, done again, should produce the same results.

You are assuming here that everyone has an education and access to certain kinds of information. So if you'd install an �I approve/disapprove Bush' button, you'd have a lot of �statistical noise', provided that the people that don't even know Bush vote by chance (i. e. 50 50). Having too many people that don't have enough information will give you an answer that approaches 50 %. But I don't think that this number will have any meaning.