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Jun 6, 2008, 09:36 AM
 
I see this on almost all Apple products now, even the back of a t-shirt given away at the opening of an Apple store in Tennessee. Why do they credit California?
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Because California is cool.
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Jun 6, 2008, 09:53 AM
 
Originally Posted by osiris View Post
Because California is cool.
Maybe 30 years ago, but now it's lame.
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Jun 6, 2008, 09:56 AM
 
I wondered about this myself. I thought it was supposed to be like "made in the us" that we used to see back when we had manufacturing
     
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Jun 6, 2008, 09:59 AM
 
Originally Posted by design219 View Post
Maybe 30 years ago, but now it's lame.
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Jun 6, 2008, 11:19 AM
 
Originally Posted by design219 View Post
I see this on almost all Apple products now, even the back of a t-shirt given away at the opening of an Apple store in Tennessee. Why do they credit California?
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Apple's HQ is IN California.

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Jun 6, 2008, 11:29 AM
 
Originally Posted by design219 View Post
I see this on almost all Apple products now, even the back of a t-shirt given away at the opening of an Apple store in Tennessee. Why do they credit California?
It's been on every Apple product since 1998. In case you haven't noticed, Apple is based in California and has been since the very beginning. My guess is they add it so they just don't say only "Made in China".
     
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Jun 6, 2008, 11:36 AM
 
I wonder if Apple's early products featured a "Made in California" tag.

This reminds me of some of the old cartoons that featured a "Made in Hollywood" credit.
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Jun 6, 2008, 11:52 AM
 
Originally Posted by design219 View Post
Maybe 30 years ago, but now it's lame.
California sets the bar. If California is "lame," then the other states fall between Steve Urkel and the fat kid from Head of the Class.
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Jun 6, 2008, 12:12 PM
 
They put "Designed by Apple in California" because they design every product in California. Simple as that. What's the problem?
     
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Jun 6, 2008, 12:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by osiris View Post
I wonder if Apple's early products featured a "Made in California" tag.

This reminds me of some of the old cartoons that featured a "Made in Hollywood" credit.
I think the computers did, but not peripherals.
     
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Jun 6, 2008, 12:43 PM
 
It says "we designed it in our California facility" implying that it wasn't just borrowed from some Taiwanese fab center or rebranded from some other manufacturer's existing products. It also says "maybe we have 'em made in China, but that's not where they 'come from'".

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Jun 6, 2008, 12:44 PM
 
California used to be fashionable but now it is lame as hell and its residents are for the most part crazy or insecure, or both.
     
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Ooooh, stereotyping. I think you're just referring to the 90210 area code.
     
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No, I'm referring to pretty much every place in California. From all the guido-ish "LA-types" who wear Mario-Brothers muscle shirts and messenger bags, to desperate slums like Compton and Long Beach, to the suburban nut-cases who elected Schwarzenegger governor . . . . California is home to all the crazy people who were not accepted by society on the east coast.
     
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Have you ever been there?
     
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Must be a slow gripe day.

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Jun 6, 2008, 01:35 PM
 
Apparently.
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Jun 6, 2008, 01:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
Have you ever been there?
Yes. It's a little too full of itself, although in a different way than Texas is full of itself.
     
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Jun 6, 2008, 01:56 PM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
It says "we designed it in our California facility" implying that it wasn't just borrowed from some Taiwanese fab center or rebranded from some other manufacturer's existing products. It also says "maybe we have 'em made in China, but that's not where they 'come from'".
I think it is also because putting "Made in the USA" on something puts it in crap territory.
     
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Originally Posted by Kerrigan View Post
No, I'm referring to pretty much every place in California. From all the guido-ish "LA-types" who wear Mario-Brothers muscle shirts and messenger bags, to desperate slums like Compton and Long Beach, to the suburban nut-cases who elected Schwarzenegger governor . . . . California is home to all the crazy people who were not accepted by society on the east coast.
Yeah, because we all know that the east coast is full of sane people. No guido-ish types in NY! No way!
     
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Jun 6, 2008, 02:18 PM
 
Why don't they name the ODM? It would be more consistent.

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California is home to all the crazy people...
Here's to the crazy ones.
  The misfits.
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        The round pegs in the square holes.
 
The ones who see things differently.
They're not fond of rules.
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You can praise them, disagree with them, quote them,
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About the only thing you can't do is ignore them.
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They invent.    They imagine.    They heal.
  They explore.    They create.    They inspire.
    They push the human race forward.
 
Maybe they have to be crazy.

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Or sit in silence and hear a song that's never been written?

Or gaze at a red planet and see a laboratory on wheels?

We make tools for these kinds of people.
 
While some see them as the crazy ones,
we see genius.

Because the people who are crazy enough to think
they can change the world, are the ones who do.
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Jun 6, 2008, 02:58 PM
 
That brought tears of joy to my eyes.
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Originally Posted by wallinbl View Post
Yes. It's a little too full of itself, although in a different way than Texas is full of itself.
Interesting viewpoint. So would you say that California is to the USA, as the USA is to the rest of the world?

Hey, might as well, since we're all making blanket statements about one another anyway, right?
     
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Originally Posted by wallinbl View Post
Yes. It's a little too full of itself, although in a different way than Texas is full of itself.
We here in Texas prefer to think of it as "being self aware" and "coming to terms with our superiority."

There is much about Texas that I find less than perfect, but I would not live in California to save my life. It's not the "fruits, nuts and flakes" that bother me (I lived in Austin, you can't scare me with that stuff), it's the public policy that "the state should 'take care of' the citizens" while not actually doing so that bugs me. But here in Texas we have a very ingrained attitude of independence, something that seems to be not only lacking in California but outright contrary to the way the whole state operates.

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Originally Posted by wallinbl View Post
Yes. It's a little too full of itself, although in a different way than Texas is full of itself.
California, Texas, and Florida all have their claims to lameness in varying manifestations. Sadly, for the rest of the country (and the world), these are the places people are drawn to for whatever reasons. Add NYC for many other people. I never understood why anyone could not love their home (the place they were born and raised in), but maybe I was born in an okay place.

I've lived overseas twice and in California (Bay Area) for four years. I love California, but certainly not Californians (native or transplants). Now we're getting California carpetbaggers/refugees as they flee that state's economic woes.

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No, I'm referring to pretty much every place in California. From all the guido-ish "LA-types" who wear Mario-Brothers muscle shirts and messenger bags, to desperate slums like Compton and Long Beach
So basically Los Angeles then. I guess that's close enough to every place in California, unless you count all the other cities.
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California is not lame. Just the voters, judges, politicians, and celebutards are lame.
     
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Jun 7, 2008, 09:08 PM
 
The reason why they put "Designed in California" on their labels...

They are making a distinction between where their products are made, and where they are created and designed.

They seem to think it adds merit to their products by saying this, that it is not just "junk from China". In fact, it does merit, and it also detracts from the "Made in China" stamped on most every product label.
     
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We here in Texas prefer to think of it as "being self aware" and "coming to terms with our superiority."
The thing that drives me nuts is how many time you hear "you're in Texas now" or "in Texas ..." while you're there. Most of the time, whatever it is they're pointing out isn't even that different than anywhere else.
     
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Originally Posted by Visnaut View Post
Interesting viewpoint. So would you say that California is to the USA, as the USA is to the rest of the world?
I would agree with that statement. But, I'm from the US, so I may be biased. I think we're generally obnoxious on the global scene, thinking we're better than everyone else. California is much the same way to the other states.
     
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Originally Posted by Visnaut View Post
Interesting viewpoint. So would you say that California is to the USA, as the USA is to the rest of the world?
If any state claims that status, it would be NY.
     
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Indeed. When it comes to unwarranted self-importance, New York wins by a country mile.
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Originally Posted by wallinbl View Post
The thing that drives me nuts is how many time you hear "you're in Texas now" or "in Texas ..." while you're there. Most of the time, whatever it is they're pointing out isn't even that different than anywhere else.
Not that different, but often different enough. It's often as much an issue of scale as anything else.

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We here in Texas prefer to think of it as "being self aware" and "coming to terms with our superiority." s.
As long as you can take the FLDS members here in Arizona off our hands, I'll have nothing but good things to say about Texas.
     
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Here in NH we dream of being able to take on the "independent" attitude CA, TX, and NY have.

Right now we're trying very hard to distinguish ourselves from MA, But with what seems like 3/4 of the MA population invading us every few weeks It's getting difficult.
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Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
Not that different, but often different enough. It's often as much an issue of scale as anything else.
Yes, the venerable "everything's bigger in Texas!"
     
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As long as you can take the FLDS members here in Arizona off our hands, I'll have nothing but good things to say about Texas.
Nope. They've been enough of a pain already. Send 'em to Utah and let their mother church deal with them.

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Yes, the venerable "everything's bigger in Texas!"
A whole lot of it is. We have counties that are larger than New England. Of the length of I10 between the eastern Texas border and its beginning in California, well over half is in Texas. About a third of I35 is in Texas. Our land area was the greatest of any state until Alaska joined the union, and there's some debate about how much of Alaska counts as "land" due to permafrost. Seriously, not only are physical things bigger here, so are our social and economic problems.

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Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
Our land area was the greatest of any state until Alaska joined the union, and there's some debate about how much of Alaska counts as "land" due to permafrost.
"How silly!" Thought I to myself. I mean, not *that* much of Alaska is permafrost.

So I looked it up.

84%

This post Designed by AKcrab in Alaska.

edit: The website that generated that graphic is kind of fun (at least for an Alaskan)
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"How silly!" Thought I to myself. I mean, not *that* much of Alaska is permafrost.
You have committed a rather grave mistake - it is not wise to argue with a Texan about how big or different Texas is. It's repeated so frequently there that they believe it wholly and fully. No justification is required.
     
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Cut Alaska in half, make two states, and Texas would be the third largest.
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Originally Posted by wallinbl View Post
The thing that drives me nuts is how many time you hear "you're in Texas now" or "in Texas ..." while you're there. Most of the time, whatever it is they're pointing out isn't even that different than anywhere else.
When I moved to Indiana last year a few "Hoosiers" emailed me the "You know you're from Indiana when..." to help me. EVERYTHING on that list could have been from Michigan.

The only real thing I've seen different down here is the "Corn Hole" game. Which is pretty much a dirty work in Michigan.
     
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The only real thing I've seen different down here is the "Corn Hole" game. Which is pretty much a dirty work in Michigan.
They play cornhole in Kentucky as well. I always wondered why adults played it. Grown men sitting outside a sporting event, drinking beer and throwing bean bags into a hole in a wooden box.
     
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They play cornhole in Kentucky as well. I always wondered why adults played it. Grown men sitting outside a sporting event, drinking beer and throwing bean bags into a hole in a wooden box.
It looks like a safer version of Horse Shoes that can be played just about anywhere.
     
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Hey, I got a splinter playing Corn Hole last summer.
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Originally Posted by design219 View Post
Cut Alaska in half, make two states, and Texas would be the third largest.
Yep. And one of those two Alaska halves would be all permafrost and the other 2/3 permafrost. From a "useable, arable land" standpoint, Texas is still on top. From an "unspoiled frontier" standpoint, they have us. Hands down. Also from a "mosquitoes that can carry away small livestock" standpoint too.

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