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design219 · 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

"Is this the magic box?" "No, you idiot"

I think the best dialog is always between Ben and John. One moment, Ben is (seemingly) setting him up as his replacement, the next his is belittling him. Sometimes Ben bestows deep secrets, then he is confusing John with riddles.

Last night had some great lines... "didn't he just say not to put metal in there?"

I think these two are the most interesting characters. Then Desmond. Then Hurley. Jack's starting to wear very thin. I like where Sun's character is going.

voodoo · May 30, 2008, 09:05 AM

I liked this season, short as it was. It didn't need to be longer to end that plot arch. I will be looking forward to season 5.. the next to last season of Lost.

lavar78 · May 30, 2008, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by voodoo

I liked this season, short as it was. It didn't need to be longer to end that plot arch. I will be looking forward to season 5.. the next to last season of Lost.

I think this has been my favorite season.

xi_hyperon · May 31, 2008, 12:46 AM

Looks like next season will be a good one. Ben + Charles = Total war.

design219 · May 31, 2008, 08:06 AM

I suspect we will might just see one side of the story for most of next season, kind of like seeing just half the plane survivors for a while. If so, I hope it's the "bad things" that happen on the island after the others are rescued. It would be good to give Jack and crew a rest.

Gankdawg · May 31, 2008, 09:06 AM

Wow. Finally some solid answers.

rogermugs · May 31, 2008, 09:27 AM

are people still watching this?

i rented season 1 when the hurricane was hitting houston (where I was living at the time) and we watched the whole thing in two days.

then i watched two episodes in season 2 and felt like it would never end... gave up.

scottiB · May 31, 2008, 10:35 AM

Lost (ABC)
9:00 p.m. Viewers: 11.73 million (#1), A18-49: 4.5/13 (#1)
9:30 p.m. Viewers: 12.04 million (#1), A18-49: 4.7/12 (#1)
10:00 p.m. Viewers: 12.32 million (#1), A18-49: 5.0/13 (#1)
10:30 p.m. Viewers: 12.69 million (#1), A18-49: 5.3/15 (#1)

Cold Warrior · May 31, 2008, 11:26 AM

This season has been decent, and the last few episodes have been very good about pace and wrapping up story lines. I feel like some stragglers have been closed and there is a theme of refocus and new plot momentum.

lavar78 · May 31, 2008, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by rogermugs

are people still watching this?

i rented season 1 when the hurricane was hitting houston (where I was living at the time) and we watched the whole thing in two days.

then i watched two episodes in season 2 and felt like it would never end... gave up.

Your loss.

As a person who loves a mystery, I can't understand people who've given up on the show. They had me hooked in S1, but the announcement of the end date has revitalized the show and made it even more compelling. We know we're going to get the answers and we're being taken on a fantastic ride in the meantime. The way they gave us clue after clue that Bentham was really Locke without making it blatantly obvious until the end was outstanding.

rogermugs · May 31, 2008, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by lavar78

Your loss.

As a person who loves a mystery, I can't understand people who've given up on the show. They had me hooked in S1, but the announcement of the end date has revitalized the show and made it even more compelling. We know we're going to get the answers and we're being taken on a fantastic ride in the meantime. The way they gave us clue after clue that Bentham was really Locke without making it blatantly obvious until the end was outstanding.

i say no way you'll get answers.
you'll be left in the cold, confused, with loose ends, like a mormon polygamist's child

Peter · May 31, 2008, 03:26 PM

when does new season start?
can't wait.

lavar78 · May 31, 2008, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Peter

when does new season start?
can't wait.

February, I believe.

design219 · May 31, 2008, 04:25 PM

So what did Ben mean when he said to John "I'm sorry for all I've put you through"? Anybody think Ben has been messing with John long before he got to the island? We know Richard has been involved in John's life since childhood.

lavar78 · May 31, 2008, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by design219

So what did Ben mean when he said to John "I'm sorry for all I've put you through"? Anybody think Ben has been messing with John long before he got to the island? We know Richard has been involved in John's life since childhood.

Maybe. On the other hand, we've seen Ben play with his mind, shoot him, and leave him for dead, so he could've been talking about that.

design219 · Jan 18, 2009, 06:30 PM

Back to the Island! Everyone ready? Predictions?

I'm looking forward to seeing Sun being a cold, calculating bad-ass.

I'm also very curious as to how they will get back to the Island.

Gankdawg · Jan 18, 2009, 11:18 PM

Only 2 more seasons, so I would expect more answers. And then some more and more after that. But I'm not holding my breath.

andi*pandi · Jan 23, 2009, 12:20 PM

what do we think? is ben to be trusted?

I like the island on random fastforward/rewind.

I do not want anything bad to happen to little aaron however. They best not go there.

Dakar V · Jan 23, 2009, 12:23 PM

Whidmore is a gigantic douche.

voodoo · Jan 23, 2009, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by andi*pandi

I do not want anything bad to happen to little aaron however. They best not go there.

This is American broadcast television.. how did you surmise that anything happening to a child would be even remotely possible? ABC is owned by Disney..

..but yeah. Not even my dark mind wandered there.

voodoo · Jan 23, 2009, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar V

Whidmore is a gigantic douche.

at least he's not a turd.

Dakar V · Jan 23, 2009, 03:46 PM

???

voodoo · Jan 23, 2009, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar V

???

¿¿¿

Dakar V · Jan 23, 2009, 03:52 PM

Wait, did you mean turd sandwich?

pooka · Jan 23, 2009, 05:28 PM

God, it's exchanges like this that make me want to be inside you, holmes.

As for Lost, holy ****. It's already been 4.5 years of cock teasing. I wish they'd just get it over with and do a 16 hour season premiere.

Dakar V · Jan 23, 2009, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar V

Wait, did you mean turd sandwich?

I'll take that as a yes, yes, you did.

0157988944 · Jan 23, 2009, 11:57 PM

Faraday goes back in time to when Marvin Candle/Mark Wickmund/Edgar Hallawax is first setting up the stations to try to change the future. It can be done, he was lying to Sawyer and the gang.

That's pretty much all I got out of two hours of TV.

voodoo · Jan 24, 2009, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar V

I'll take that as a yes, yes, you did.

Obviously my dear Dakar. Obviously.

Langdon · Jan 25, 2009, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by adamfishercox

That's pretty much all I got out of two hours of TV.

I also gathered that the island moving around time and position explained how the ship ended up in the middle of the island and how a plane leaving Africa could have ended up crossing its path

I was not thrilled to see them introduce at least one more group of people to the recent history of the island by way of the gun toting soldiers and the people who shot the flaming arrows.

lavar78 · Jan 25, 2009, 05:47 PM

It also appears that the whispers may be our time-lost Losties.

design219 · Jan 28, 2009, 11:32 PM

Whitmore was an other? And Desmond names his kid Charlie?

lavar78 · Jan 29, 2009, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by design219

Whitmore was an other?

This makes complete sense. Whidmore told Ben that the island was his and Ben took it from him. I supposed he either pushed the wheel or was exiled some other way and that's why he's trying to control it. That might also explain his buying the diary from the Black Rock.

And Desmond names his kid Charlie?

I thought that was a nice touch.

It looks like we were all right about the identity of Daniel's mother: Ms. Hawking.

Gankdawg · 01:01 PM

What happened in the last 2 minutes or so? My DVR cut off for some reason, even though I have it set to record 2 minutes past the scheduled end time.
**
edit: watched it at abc.com.

RAILhead · Jan 29, 2009, 02:21 PM

Getting good! I just hope Present Charlie doesn't somehow get time-looped and end up being Dead Charlie.

goMac · Jan 29, 2009, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by RAILhead

Getting good! I just hope Present Charlie doesn't somehow get time-looped and end up being Dead Charlie.

Or Charles Widmore.

Gankdawg · Jan 29, 2009, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by goMac

Or Charles Widmore.

So Penny gave birth to her father?

design219 · Jan 29, 2009, 03:07 PM

Maybe Penny is not his biological daughter. Interesting.

voodoo · Jan 29, 2009, 04:31 PM

Cood casting for young Charles Whitmore, he looks rather similar to the older actor. Oh and I wouldn't read too much into the Charles name of Penny's baby, judging by the troves of red herrings in these series.

Usually the actual clues are much more subtle.

andi*pandi · Jan 30, 2009, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by lavar78

It also appears that the whispers may be our time-lost Losties.

Or any other echo out of time. Which makes me wonder about Jacob. Maybe instead of being some kind of invisible spirit/ghost, he is stuck in time?

Wiskedjak · Jan 30, 2009, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by andi*pandi

Or any other echo out of time. Which makes me wonder about Jacob. Maybe instead of being some kind of invisible spirit/ghost, he is stuck in time?

That makes sense. I wonder if we can stretch this time shifting to explain the Black Smoke?
(poor Black Smoke. it was introduced as the Big Nasty at the beginning of the series and now only gets pulled out once a season. Dharma had a massive sonic fence to keep it at bay, and yet it barely seems to be around anymore)

0157988944 · Jan 30, 2009, 04:04 PM

The only time we've seen Jacob, which was a split second shot of his eye, it was without a doubt Richard. His eyes are unmistakeable. Is that eyeliner??? :/

Demonhood · Jan 30, 2009, 06:27 PM

i always thought it looked like kris kristofferson.

RAILhead · Jan 30, 2009, 08:33 PM

Jacob isn't Richard by any stretch.

design219 · Jan 30, 2009, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by RAILhead

Jacob isn't Richard by any stretch.

Yeah, I agree. Or at least I hope not.

lavar78 · Jan 31, 2009, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by Demonhood

i always thought it looked like kris kristofferson.

Yes, but when I first saw him, I thought it was Locke with a wig.

Chuckit · 04:44 AM

Originally Posted by adamfishercox

The only time we've seen Jacob, which was a split second shot of his eye, it was without a doubt Richard. His eyes are unmistakeable. Is that eyeliner??? :/

Without a doubt not Richard. We also saw Jacob in profile sitting in a chair, and it was not Richard. I posted a screencap several pages back in this thread. But speculating on who Jacob looks like is pointless, since the producers say the role hasn't actually be cast yet — they just pulled in some guy on the set to sit there and "be" Jacob since you couldn't really see him and no acting was involved.

Also, a couple of thoughts:

1. Since the only other Other who got a big speaking role was Charles Widmore, I'm guessing Ellie is Eloise Hawking.

2. Eloise Hawking used to be hot.

voodoo · Jan 31, 2009, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Without a doubt not Richard. We also saw Jacob in profile sitting in a chair, and it was not Richard. I posted a screencap several pages back in this thread. But speculating on who Jacob looks like is pointless, since the producers say the role hasn't actually be cast yet — they just pulled in some guy on the set to sit there and "be" Jacob since you couldn't really see him and no acting was involved.

Also, a couple of thoughts:

1. Since the only other Other who got a big speaking role was Charles Widmore, I'm guessing Ellie is Eloise Hawking.

2. Eloise Hawking used to be hot.

Smoking hot!

I agree that she is probably Eloise Hawking.

lavar78 · Jan 31, 2009, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

1. Since the only other Other who got a big speaking role was Charles Widmore, I'm guessing Ellie is Eloise Hawking.

I think that's pretty much a given. I'm curious to see if Charles will end up being Daniel's father. Hawking convinced Desmond not to buy the ring so he would end up on the island to push the button. His presence there allows Faraday to use Des as his constant and to communicate with the outside world. Desmond is now going to L.A. to meet up with Hawking with Penny in tow. Hawking is currently working with Ben, who plans to kill Penny. Hmm....

Gankdawg · Jan 31, 2009, 10:26 AM

Does the island time-shift every 108 minutes?

Chuckit · 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Gankdawg

Does the island time-shift every 108 minutes?

Faraday seems to think the flashes come at random. I think he would have noticed if it were that regular.

Oh, something else I thought was interesting (not necessarily from a plot perspective, but more "I wonder why the writers did that"): Juliet repeatedly calls herself an "Other" in this episode. Apparently the Others don't actually have a name for themselves at all.