Welcome to the MacNN Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

You are here: MacNN Forums > Community > Feedback > What's with Cubeoid's ban?

What's with Cubeoid's ban? (Page 2)
Thread Tools
Laminar
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Iowa, how long can this be? Does it really ruin the left column spacing?
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 23, 2010, 12:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by OreoCookie View Post
The people we have re-admitted have asked us first and promised to be good. We have also denied such requests in the past.
Doesn't jive with:

Originally Posted by OreoCookie View Post
When it comes to considering to lift permabans, however, I feel we have been very consistent: in all cases, we have either considered the request if the staff has been contacted prior to posting or we have waited a bit to see whether the member has changed sufficiently so that we are inclined to lift the permaban. This is exactly what has happened here as well and in that sense, our actions are consistent. Feel free to disagree with our conclusions, though.
     
ghporter
Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Antonio TX USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 23, 2010, 12:38 PM
 
What doesn't jive? With Cubeoid, we weren't sure at first if it was the same person. Between investigating that and banning his new handle, there were a couple of days of discussion behind the scenes.

And in one instance where we used a "wait and see" attitude, the person had been banned for just being obnoxious. He came back with a different handle and the obnoxious stuff stopped. We communicated (off line, of course) with him that this sort of new behavior was required for his continued participation. With Cubeoid, who was banned for a pattern of bad behavior topped off by posting porn links, we haven't seen a potential for rehabilitation.

Glenn -----OTR/L, MOT, Tx
     
OreoCookie
Moderator
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Hilbert space
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 23, 2010, 12:55 PM
 
@Laminar
I don't get the inconsistency you're alluding to: whether former users contact us first or just start posting is up to them, not up to us. Depending on what they do, we react.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
     
Laminar
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Iowa, how long can this be? Does it really ruin the left column spacing?
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 23, 2010, 02:39 PM
 
The first quote doesn't allow for Rob, which the second part does.
     
Lateralus
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Arizona
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 23, 2010, 03:38 PM
 
Without even having read this thread beyond a skim, I'll say that I think it's funny this has become a discussion.

New member profile is created >> Said profile is named in a way so as to pay homage to an older, permanently banned profile >> Staff investigation is made into circumstances surrounding creation of said profile and determination of identity behind it >> Investigation yields results such that the decision to ban said profile is agreed upon after deliberation.

The End.

If that isn't enough for you, then you may way to submit your name in the next Moderator recruitment round so you can come behind the scenes to find out all of our dirty, sneaky, scheming little secrets. But if you seriously intend on coming aboard, might wanna keep the second-guessing, bitching, winging and complaining in check.

And in the future; How about we not turn threads Rob-centric when even he himself has neglected to make an attempt at it? Yeah?
( Last edited by Lateralus; Sep 23, 2010 at 05:09 PM. )
I like chicken
I like liver
Meow Mix, Meow Mix
Please de-liv-er
     
turtle777
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: planning a comeback !
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 23, 2010, 03:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
If that isn't enough for you, then you may way to submit your name in the next Moderator recruitment round so you can come behind the scenes to find out all of our dirty, sneaky, scheming little secrets.
Are guest passes available ?

-t
     
Doofy
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Vacation.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 23, 2010, 07:54 PM
 
Talking about moderator recruitment... ...where's our cunning linguist?
Been inclined to wander... off the beaten track.
That's where there's thunder... and the wind shouts back.
     
reader50
Administrator
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: California
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 23, 2010, 08:10 PM
 
He's been occupied in the real world. I checked to see if he'd died too, but the reply sounded like him. He'll return, though he may not be able to talk about it. You know how classified work goes.
     
downinflames68
Baninated
Join Date: Jun 2009
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2010, 02:39 AM
 
Bans are ****ing stupid to begin with. There are always ways around it, I have proof. If you want to punish someone, do what Misha did. Change all my posts to somethign regarding ponies for a few days. That is infuriating. Much more so that making a yahoo account and creating a username.

Besides, banning people is really gay to begin with. You might not like what they ahve to say, but I think we're all open enough here that we aren't going to actually get offended when conversing. It'd be better to just limit people a bit, instead of saying NO FOR EVER AND EVER UNTIL ETERNITY!!!!!!!1!!!1!!
     
AKcrab
Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2010, 03:12 AM
 
The abuse reports would tend to disagree with you Rob.
     
reader50
Administrator
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: California
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2010, 03:46 AM
 
Originally Posted by downinflames68 View Post
If you want to punish someone, do what Misha did. Change all my posts to something regarding ponies for a few days. That is infuriating.
I never thought of that, might be useful. Ponies and rainbows. Though I'm partial to more subtle responses too.

Thanks.
     
Spheric Harlot
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: 888500128, C3, 2nd soft.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2010, 04:04 AM
 
Originally Posted by downinflames68 View Post
Besides, banning people is really gay to begin with. You might not like what they ahve to say, but I think we're all open enough here that we aren't going to actually get offended when conversing.
The schoolyard bully arguing that any normal kid ought to be able to take a little friendly ribbing, after having been kicked out of school for the sixteenth time.

Way to go, Rob.
     
downinflames68
Baninated
Join Date: Jun 2009
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2010, 09:39 AM
 
Originally Posted by reader50 View Post
I never thought of that, might be useful. Ponies and rainbows. Though I'm partial to more subtle responses too.

Thanks.
Editing my posts was far more effective than trying to silence me. I guess that's what I'm saying.
     
P
Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2010, 10:02 AM
 
Really? You reread your own posts to check for stuff like that?
The new Mac Pro has up to 30 MB of cache inside the processor itself. That's more than the HD in my first Mac. Somehow I'm still running out of space.
     
Doofy
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Vacation.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2010, 10:06 AM
 
Originally Posted by reader50 View Post
He's been occupied in the real world. I checked to see if he'd died too, but the reply sounded like him. He'll return, though he may not be able to talk about it. You know how classified work goes.
Cheers.
     
OreoCookie
Moderator
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Hilbert space
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2010, 11:03 AM
 
Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
The first quote doesn't allow for Rob, which the second part does.
First of all, the posts of mine you have quoted are not `rules' that the staff has set in stone for such rare events, but statements of facts. You're right that my first post is inaccurate and we did let permabanned members back in after watching them for a certain amount of time.
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it.
     
iLikebeer
Mac Elite
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: /OV DRK 142006
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2010, 11:16 AM
 
Originally Posted by downinflames68 View Post
Bans are ****ing stupid to begin with. There are always ways around it, I have proof. If you want to punish someone, do what Misha did. Change all my posts to somethign regarding ponies for a few days. That is infuriating. Much more so that making a yahoo account and creating a username.

Besides, banning people is really gay to begin with. You might not like what they ahve to say, but I think we're all open enough here that we aren't going to actually get offended when conversing. It'd be better to just limit people a bit, instead of saying NO FOR EVER AND EVER UNTIL ETERNITY!!!!!!!1!!!1!!
I can't believe you're using yourself as an example. Most people have enough dignity to walk away from something when they realize they're not welcome. Yeah, some people will be immature and fight it for a bit, but making dozens or hundreds of accounts to come back to a place where you're not wanted is not how 99.999% of the population would react to a ban, especially after being warned. I'm still wondering if you're an epic troll or if you're really that egocentric that you still don't get it. In the end, it comes down to the forums being controlled by a private entity. If they don't want you there for whatever reason, that's their right.
     
P
Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 24, 2010, 01:21 PM
 
iLikebeer, this thread is about Cubeoid. You're getting personal there, and those things have a tendency to escalate. Keep the discussion on topic.

Almost any block, be it a physical lock or a computer based one, can be avoided with enough time. In many cases, that time is 5-10 minutes (yes, really. Watch a locksmith open an apartment door some time). That's enough for a reasonable security, and it is enough online in all but a very small minority of cases. This is one of the reasons we have bans (the other is that it sends a very strong statement that certain behaviour is not acceptable). That last minority is handled through careful considerations by those tasked to do so - ie, admins and mods. Black & white rules are nice, but black & white rules for every situation pretty soon becomes the legislation for a good-sized country. We're not a country, and the consequences of a ban are somewhat less severe than those of being thrown in jail. This was a special case, and we chose not to make exception. If you'd like an exception, please explain why.
The new Mac Pro has up to 30 MB of cache inside the processor itself. That's more than the HD in my first Mac. Somehow I'm still running out of space.
     
Laminar
Posting Junkie
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Iowa, how long can this be? Does it really ruin the left column spacing?
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 02:36 PM
 
Originally Posted by reader50 View Post
I never thought of that, might be useful. Ponies and rainbows. Though I'm partial to more subtle responses too.

Thanks.
You're killing me.
     
Railroader
Banned
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Indy.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 02:56 PM
 
I am not convinced it was actually Cubeiod anyway, but a current active member using the name to increase the amount of inane threads and posting. [/tinfoiltouk]
     
brassplayersrock²
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: California
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 02:59 PM
 
What’s with this thread not being banned?
     
ghporter
Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Antonio TX USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 03:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
I am not convinced it was actually Cubeiod anyway, but a current active member using the name to increase the amount of inane threads and posting. [/tinfoiltouk]
You were not alone in this concern, but we have investigated thoroughly, and it was definitely a different person-and definitely the same person who used the original handle back in 2006.

Glenn -----OTR/L, MOT, Tx
     
iLikebeer
Mac Elite
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: /OV DRK 142006
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 03:57 PM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
You were not alone in this concern, but we have investigated thoroughly, and it was definitely a different person-and definitely the same person who used the original handle back in 2006.
If it really was him, you might consider locking the WDLove tribute thread, too. It was several years ago, but if I'm not mistaken, WDlove left because cubeoid totally screwed him over and embarrassed him. That thread is pretty classy in that context. No need to go down that road.
     
ghporter
Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Antonio TX USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 04:12 PM
 
That thread seems to have died a natural death...

Glenn -----OTR/L, MOT, Tx
     
brassplayersrock²
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: California
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 04:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
You're killing me.
Softly?
     
Railroader
Banned
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Indy.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 05:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
You were not alone in this concern, but we have investigated thoroughly, and it was definitely a different person-and definitely the same person who used the original handle back in 2006.
Ok, thanks for addressing that.
     
Dork.
Professional Poster
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Rochester, NY
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 05:33 PM
 
2006? It was that long ago? How time flies.
     
turtle777
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: planning a comeback !
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 07:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
You were not alone in this concern, but we have investigated thoroughly, and it was definitely a different person-and definitely the same person who used the original handle back in 2006.
Huh ?

I must be completely dense today, since I don't get at all what you're saying.

Was cuboid a sock-puppet all along ?
How come the suck-puppeteer is not banned ?

-t
     
Dork.
Professional Poster
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Rochester, NY
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 08:01 PM
 
Railroader implied that another member was the one using the new Cubeoid handle. (To be honest, I assumed it was our favorite tuba player).
Glenn replied that the new Cubeoid was different from that person, and definitely the same person as the Old Cubeoid.

A pity he hasn't learned a thing in the last four years.
( Last edited by Dork.; Sep 25, 2010 at 08:09 PM. )
     
turtle777
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: planning a comeback !
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 09:09 PM
 
Ah, duh, now I get it. "Definitely a different person" than the person Railroader suspected to have raised this new persona.

-t
     
ghporter
Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Antonio TX USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 09:12 PM
 
Correct. I don't want to point fingers at who was suspected of being the "puppet master," so I'm not going to. But there were concerns and a lot of research was done to figure out what exactly was actually happening. "Oh Cubeoid" was without a doubt "Cubeoid."

Glenn -----OTR/L, MOT, Tx
     
Railroader
Banned
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Indy.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 09:25 PM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter View Post
Correct. I don't want to point fingers at who was suspected of being the "puppet master," so I'm not going to. But there were concerns and a lot of research was done to figure out what exactly was actually happening. "Oh Cubeoid" was without a doubt "Cubeoid."
But was '06 Cubeoid the same person as '10 Cubeoid? Or was sockpuppetry involved?
     
ghporter
Administrator
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Antonio TX USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 09:31 PM
 
We're about 99.999% sure the two handles were used by a single person.

Glenn -----OTR/L, MOT, Tx
     
besson3c  (op)
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: yes
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 25, 2010, 10:10 PM
 
I guarantee you that they are the same person, I've been in contact with the real Cubeoid. The only nicknames I've ever been are this one and Butthawk, and I think Buttsauce during a relatively short lived phase of mine, and John McCandyCain or something like that ages ago...

My disguises generally suck, I'm definitely no Abe...
     
brassplayersrock²
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: California
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 26, 2010, 01:40 AM
 
Originally Posted by Dork. View Post
Railroader implied that another member was the one using the new Cubeoid handle. (To be honest, I assumed it was our favorite tuba player).
Glenn replied that the new Cubeoid was different from that person, and definitely the same person as the Old Cubeoid.

A pity he hasn't learned a thing in the last four years.
1. Thank you for the awesomeness

2. I only did it that one time, for that one thread. This has been my handle (except once a while back when I forgot my PW after being off the boards for a long time BPR2 was the nick)

So I’m in the clear here.

For old times sake
     
Dork.
Professional Poster
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Rochester, NY
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 26, 2010, 09:52 PM
 
Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
I guarantee you that they are the same person, I've been in contact with the real Cubeoid.
Tell him to stop being such a dumbass, then.
     
brassplayersrock²
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: California
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 26, 2010, 10:03 PM
 
Why can’t you stop being such a Dork. You silly underpants!
     
scaught
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: detroit,mi,usa
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 29, 2010, 02:59 PM
 
This is the best thread I've ever seen. You're all absolutely loony.
     
Railroader
Banned
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Indy.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 29, 2010, 09:17 PM
 
Like a Canadian dollar.
     
Demonhood
Administrator
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Land of the Easily Amused
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 30, 2010, 02:53 AM
 
Canadians have dollars? I thought they just bartered with beaver pelts and such.
     
Railroader
Banned
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Indy.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 30, 2010, 02:24 PM
 
     
scaught
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: detroit,mi,usa
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 30, 2010, 03:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by Railroader View Post
Like a Canadian dollar.
Some qualify as twonies for sure.
     
Phileas
Mac Elite
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Sep 30, 2010, 03:43 PM
 
Originally Posted by Demonhood View Post
Canadians have dollars? I thought they just bartered with beaver pelts and such.
Only on Sundays.
     
reader50
Administrator
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: California
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 5, 2010, 02:41 PM
 


I've moved the Fuzzy Wombat discussion to it's own thread.
     
Spheric Harlot
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: 888500128, C3, 2nd soft.
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 5, 2010, 02:42 PM
 
What happened to the four or five posts in between?

Edit: oh.

Also, for the record, I have no affiliation with teh wombat, and am not a member there.
     
reader50
Administrator
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: California
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 5, 2010, 02:44 PM
 
They're all moved over. No wombats were harmed during the production of ... er, no posts were deleted.
     
 
Thread Tools
 
Forum Links
Forum Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Top
Privacy Policy
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:12 PM.
All contents of these forums © 1995-2017 MacNN. All rights reserved.
Branding + Design: www.gesamtbild.com
vBulletin v.3.8.8 © 2000-2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.,