[selowitch]

Awesome! Palm just released two new competitively priced PDAs: the Zire 31 and the Zire 72.

Unfortunately, the Zire 72 does not have built-in Wi-Fi, which puts it at a competitive disadvantage vis-�-vis the Sony Cli� TJ37 of the same price. Both models run Garnet (PalmOS 5), so there are no Mac compatibility issues yet (and there are going to be third-party solutions for Cobalt [PalmOS 6]).

This is good news.

EDIT: The Zire 31 looks particularly attractive at only $149.

[fisherKing]

the 72 has some great features, but...is one ugly pda; not a tungsten replacement, anyway.
sticking with my t2, while i wait for a tt with wifi...and a camera, and...better audio...and...

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[selowitch]

Originally posted by fisherKing:
the 72 has some great features, but...is one ugly pda; not a tungsten replacement, anyway.

Ugly? I'm not sure. I'd have to see it in person to be sure. I agree that the Tungsten line has a nice appearance. Personally, I like to buy cheaper PDAs because the pricier ones go obselete so quickly, which is why I am considering the Zire 31.

What was Palm thinking in not including 802.11x compatibility?

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by selowitch:
What was Palm thinking in not including 802.11x compatibility?

$

[selowitch]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
$

Yeah, but how is the Zire 72 supposed to compete with the Sony Cli� TJ37 at the same price point?

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by selowitch:
Yeah, but how is the Zire 72 supposed to compete with the Sony Cli� TJ37 at the same price point?

No one is saying that Palm thinks clearly when it comes to competition. Ever since the M series it's been apparent that Palm doesn't seem to think it has any competition. Between the III/V series and the Tungstens, Sony's were a much better deal. It wouldn't surprise me if Palm lets the appeal of the Tungsten decay in the same way they let the V decay.

[fisherKing]

for the record, i saw the 72 in person at staples yesterday, much to my surprise (i thought it was released today).

sitting next to a clie tj37...

72 is kinda ugly
(but in all fairness...the sony is kinda dull)


guess it comes down to features...and the clie DOES have wifi... (but no bt)

[selowitch]

Originally posted by fisherKing:

guess it comes down to features...and the clie DOES have wifi... (but no bt)

Why do you need Bluetooth if you have Wi-Fi? You can HotSync via Wi-Fi and it would be faster. If you have a BT phone and your Mac has BT, you could HotSync to the phone in turn, right?

[Immortal K-Mart Employee]

I was watching Palm based PDA's since they first come out. I wanted to get one but each model was lacking in one major way or another.

That was until the Zire 71 came along.

For me it is perfect. I like the way it looks, I like the Camera, I like the OS.

Sure Wi-Fi or bluetooth would be nice but I don't really need it that much. Also for the cost of the Zire it was a non-issue as to weather or not I should get it. it is cheap as hell!

I don't like the sliders of the other high end palms and the cost double for very little more.

I do think the Zire 72 looks sorta ugly next to the Zire 71 though.

[selowitch]

Originally posted by Immortal K-Mart Employee:
That was until the Zire 71 came along. For me it is perfect.

Perhaps the price of the Zire 71 will come down a bit now so I can snatch one up.

[SupahCoolX]

A major flaw in the Z72 is lack of camera lens protection. I just would not feel comfortable keeping it in my pocket without a protective case, but that added bulk defeats the purpose of a "palm" device. A simple metal slider over the lens would have been all.

[Socially Awkward Solo]

Originally posted by SupahCoolX:
A major flaw in the Z72 is lack of camera lens protection. I just would not feel comfortable keeping it in my pocket without a protective case, but that added bulk defeats the purpose of a "palm" device. A simple metal slider over the lens would have been all.

Get the 71 then.

[rag on a muffin]

man im old skool. just stick me with a good old apple pda this one is mine:

[torifile]

Aren't these new PDAs running Cobalt (Palm OS 6)? If they are, mac compatibility is out until mark/space comes out with a conduit for them. :/

[Socially Awkward Solo]

Originally posted by torifile:
Aren't these new PDAs running Cobalt (Palm OS 6)?

Palm OS� 5.2.8

[Wiskedjak]

Cobalt isn't due out 'til sometime this summer. In theory, though, couldn't you stick OS 5 on any Palms running 6?

[Immortal K-Mart Employee]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
Cobalt isn't due out 'til sometime this summer. In theory, though, couldn't you stick OS 5 on any Palms running 6?

Pffff, ya right.

[selowitch]

Originally posted by rag on a muffin:
man im old skool. just stick me with a good old apple pda this one is mine:

If Apple would just make a Newton Extreme (small, compact, Apple-proprietary PDA that syncs w/ iCal.app, AddressBook.app, Mail.app, etc., I'd buy it in three seconds flat!

[rag on a muffin]

Originally posted by selowitch:
If Apple would just make a Newton Extreme (small, compact, Apple-proprietary PDA that syncs w/ iCal.app, AddressBook.app, Mail.app, etc., I'd buy it in three seconds flat!

me too. especially if it was a universal cellphone (works with any service)

[macdevil]

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Originally posted by selowitch:
If Apple would just make a Newton Extreme (small, compact, Apple-proprietary PDA that syncs w/ iCal.app, AddressBook.app, Mail.app, etc., I'd buy it in three seconds flat!
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me too. especially if it was a universal cellphone (works with any service

By the time they can there is a universal phone...lets not go there. There are too many standards to try to make compatible. I would buy one if it worked with my service, I might even change service providers to get a PDA/phone that was Mac friendly. Unfortunately, I think Apple will wait and release one PDA/Phone instead of making one for each standard CDMA, GSM,...