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Well, are they? I don't think I've seen any conservatives on MacNN bitch about little typos, apostrophe misuses, or grammatical errors.
(Funny thing is, most of the times their corrections are wrong)
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I try not to nitpick other people's spelling and grammar but I'd prefer if people spent more time on their words.
But I have corrected people in the past, and I'm not a liberal. But I'm not a conservative, either.
It's my opinion that it merely enhances your arguments to have proper command of the language you communicate in.
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The only person I can think of who does it regularly is vmarks.
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I blame the public schools for creating the problem.
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Yeah. I agree with davesimondotcom. I am aware of them and they slightly irk. But if I can get the jist of the message I will USUALLY leave it be.
Even though it is important it isn't always the battle I wish to fight at the time and sometimes I believe it's a hopeless battle.
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Personally, I hope the internet spells its demise. If you understand the language you really don't need them, do you?
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Originally Posted by Dakar
Personally, I hope the internet spells its demise. If you understand the language you really don't need them, do you?
Actually, there are times when clear communication is best served (and sometimes ONLY served) by observance of the rules of grammar and punctuation.
Think of it as a whole world of Rule 8 for you to enjoy!
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Being a grammar nazi is just another manifestation of the egotism of some people here. If someone's grammar sucks so much that their meaning is obscured, well that is one thing, but those instances are pretty rare.
In other words: get over yourselves.
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Originally Posted by mojo2
Actually, there are times when clear communication is best served (and sometimes ONLY served) by observance of the rules of grammar and punctuation.
Such as?
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Good god, what would this possibly have to do with being liberal or conservative?
I mean, what's next from you people:
"Somebody side-swiped my car on the way home and then just drove off...they must've been a damn liberal!"
You know, a friend of mine was saying this morning to me that liberals should just give up trying to be polite and respect everyone's feelings and just start saying it like it is.
Well, I've decided he was right: You guys are completely nuts. If I could use profanity to sum up how stupid your liberal/conservative fixation is without getting my post deleted, then I would.
Give me an f'ing break.
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Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy
I blame the public schools for creating the problem.
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Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy
I blame the public schools for creating the problem.
I don't know who the grammar Nazis are, but I know whose fault this is.
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Its because conservative's are stupid, duh.
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I gues's apostrophe's really are evil.
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Originally Posted by Dakar
Such as?
I helped my uncle jack off a horse
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I was talking about apostraphes.
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Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -
I helped my uncle jack off a horse
Sounds pretty clear to me. You sicko.
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Originally Posted by Kerrigan
Well, are they? I don't think I've seen any conservatives on MacNN bitch about little typos, apostrophe misuses, or grammatical errors.
(Funny thing is, most of the times their corrections are wrong)
Are you saying that conservative's are ignant, while liberal's are edumacated?
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Originally Posted by Chuckit
Sounds pretty clear to me. You sicko.
Why attack him for helping his Uncle??
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I can be a stickler at times online about blatant spelling and grammar errors, especially if it's a public forum.
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Originally Posted by smacintush
Being a grammar nazi is just another manifestation of the egotism of some people here. If someone's grammar sucks so much that their meaning is obscured, well that is one thing, but those instances are pretty rare.
In other words: get over yourselves.
I agree.
Not only that, when correcting someone said person usually ends up making a grammatical error themselves.
I think it's a way of Karma putting you in check.
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Originally Posted by Helmling
You know, a friend of mine was saying this morning to me that liberals should just give up trying to be polite and respect everyone's feelings and just start saying it like it is.
Please do. And tell all the other libs to do so. Then we might finally be rid of all this political correctness crap.
On-topic:
I agree with Dave. It irks me slightly, but no biggie on an international notice board.
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Originally Posted by davesimondotcom
It's my opinion that it merely enhances your arguments to have proper command of the language you communicate in.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
Please do. And tell all the other libs to do so. Then we might finally be rid of all this political correctness crap.
On-topic:
I agree with Dave. It irks me slightly, but no biggie on an international notice board.
Speaking of, do we have a MacNN official spelling of things like colo(u)r?
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Originally Posted by Troll
And proper use of is very important as well. You demonstrate quite aptly.
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Originally Posted by davesimondotcom
Speaking of, do we have a MacNN official spelling of things like colo(u)r?
It's "colour" and on this point (and probably this point alone), Doofy and I are in agreement.
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Originally Posted by Troll
It's "colour"
Correct.
Originally Posted by Troll
and on this point (and probably this point alone), Doofy and I are in agreement.
You don't like boobies?
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I'm a free-thinker and I frequently critique other people's punctuation and grammar. Of course, I'm a trained professional-don't try this at home! (I really am a trained tech writer...)
Anyway, mojo2 is spot on. If there's less clarity because of a missed rule, is it the fault of the rule, the reader, or the writer? I say it's the writer, who did not ensure his or her message was clear. I am anything but exacting in my grammatical constructs, but I work very hard at being clear in what I post.
And I feel that the misuse of apostrophes is a sign of intellectual laziness, if not lack of intellect itself. In some things there may be some flexibility-I use "TVs" to indicate more than one TV, while others may use "TV's" and intend the plural as well. But when the term is a word, not a contraction or acronym-like thing, then it's just stupid looking. "I have five table's." That's just dumb, and I sometimes call writers of such on their poor writing.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
You don't like boobies?
Wa-hey, two things we agree on. Let's try for a hat trick - jelly is the transparent stuff that sets in the fridge and the stuff you put on toast is jam.
Oh and co-ed, naked rugby.
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Originally Posted by Troll
It's "colour" and on this point (and probably this point alone), Doofy and I are in agreement.
Go ahead and trying doing [colour=red]OMGZ red text![/colour]
It won't work, suckas. This proving we Americans have been right the whole time.
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Originally Posted by Troll
Wa-hey, two things we agree on. Let's try for a hat trick - jelly is the transparent stuff that sets in the fridge and the stuff you put on toast is jam.
Oh and co-ed, naked rugby.
Assuming you aren't misusing the word, "sets," exactly what transparent stuff do you place in the refrigerator to allow it to set?
What is the stuff made of? Where does the stuff come from? How is it used? What are it's qualities?
There more to clarity of communication than just grammar and punctuation.
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Originally Posted by mojo2
Assuming you aren't misusing the word, "sets," exactly what transparent stuff do you place in the refrigerator to allow it to set?
Stuff mixed with hot water, allowed to cool and then placed in the fridge to set or solidify.
Originally Posted by mojo2
What is the stuff made of?
ColoUred powders that come from a box and water.
Originally Posted by mojo2
What are it's qualities?
Chemical? I know not. H2O in large doses and a secret blend of powdery stuff, I would imagine.
When vodka is added and the product is consumed in quantities, it has the quality of being hallucinogenic. It has also been known to have aphrodisiac qualities although the desire in the subjects often outstrips the ability to perform. This mix is also known as toxic sludge.
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Originally Posted by ghporter
I'm a free-thinker and I frequently critique other people's punctuation and grammar. Of course, I'm a trained professional-don't try this at home! (I really am a trained tech writer...)
Anyway, mojo2 is spot on. If there's less clarity because of a missed rule, is it the fault of the rule, the reader, or the writer? I say it's the writer, who did not ensure his or her message was clear. I am anything but exacting in my grammatical constructs, but I work very hard at being clear in what I post.
And I feel that the misuse of apostrophes is a sign of intellectual laziness, if not lack of intellect itself. In some things there may be some flexibility-I use "TVs" to indicate more than one TV, while others may use "TV's" and intend the plural as well. But when the term is a word, not a contraction or acronym-like thing, then it's just stupid looking. "I have five table's." That's just dumb, and I sometimes call writers of such on their poor writing.
Boom, that describes me too. I'm not a fully trained tech writer, yet, but I am majoring in scientific and technical communication, and the area in which I'm most comfortable is editing.
Perhaps, two or three years down the line, I will be a professional grammar nazi. As far as correcting people's posts, I generally consider it rude to dedicate an entire post to grammar corrections and nothing else, unless the errors are so egregious that it's difficult to comprehend the meaning. But that doesn't mean that stupid errors don't bother me, or that I don't think people should be careful to learn a few basic rules and follow them. Apostrophe rules are very easy to learn, which is why it bugs me so much when people can't figure them out (especially when he or she continues to make errors after others repeatedly explain the rules).
I probably made a bunch of grammatical errors in the above post
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Originally Posted by Troll
Stuff mixed with hot water, allowed to cool and then placed in the fridge to set or solidify.
ColoUred powders that come from a box and water.
Chemical? I know not. H2O in large doses and a secret blend of powdery stuff, I would imagine.
When vodka is added and the product is consumed in quantities, it has the quality of being hallucinogenic. It has also been known to have aphrodisiac qualities although the desire in the subjects often outstrips the ability to perform. This mix is also known as toxic sludge.
You're talking about, "Jello Shots," I think.
Here's a link to a site which is devoted to all things jello shotery.
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Another shocker - Doofy is now going to disagree with you. That is clearly Jelly.
Man, those shots look scrumptious. That is indeed what we called toxic sludge!
I went hunting for a photo of a box of jelly and didn't find it, but I did manage to find a photo that nicely closes the circle of posts. One for Doofy.
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Originally Posted by Troll
Another shocker - Doofy is now going to disagree with you. That is clearly Jelly.
Man, those shots look scrumptious. That is indeed what we called toxic sludge!
I went hunting for a photo of a box of jelly and didn't find it, but I did manage to find a photo that nicely closes the circle of posts. One for Doofy.
They would probably sell QUITE well after Fox News and Rush Limbaugh mentioned them...
Which would happen after the feminist movement criticized them...
Which would happen after someone sent a few free boxes to their offices.
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