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Sep 24, 2008, 01:15 PM
 
More 'Chocolate' Candy Bars Now Include Vegetable Oils Instead of Pricey Cocoa Butter

I just found out and I am never buying anything "made with chocolate" ever again. Why can't they just raise the price?

It's worse than the 1.75-quart ice-cream issue!

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Sep 24, 2008, 01:23 PM
 
I read this on msnbc
At least in the US they cannot legally call it milk chocolate. That doesn't make it right how ever.

I hate the idea of corporate greed going so far that they now replace cocoa butter with vegetable oil

I'm tempted to complain to Hershey but I doubt it will have any impact. I'm a huge chocoholic
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Sep 24, 2008, 01:53 PM
 
Why am I not surprised... Is nothing sacred anymore?

Somewhat related, I stopped seeing pure cocoa butter lotion in stores a few years ago - now it's a blend of sorts.
That stuff was great for tanning and smelling like candy.
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:00 PM
 
Can't find the reference atm, but I'm sure that a couple of years ago, the eurocrats noticed this usage and told companies like Cadbury's and Nestle that they couldn't call loads of their products chocolate.

Its a bit like prepared meals, they (companies) can call it beef because what they put in the meal comes from a cow, but you really don't want to know what part of the cow they put into the meal.
     
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:05 PM
 
It brings up a question which everyone knows the answer, but not everyone likes.

Why can't they sell more expensive versions with real chocolate (or a coke with real sugar)?
     
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:07 PM
 
You just want to get that coke snorting picture in here don't you ??
     
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:08 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar V View Post
It brings up a question which everyone knows the answer, but not everyone likes.

Why can't they sell more expensive versions with real chocolate (or a coke with real sugar)?
I agree. But I also think the crap flavored varieties should have lower prices now, but I imagine that would cut into profit forecast models.
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:09 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar V View Post
Why can't they sell more expensive versions with real chocolate (or a coke with real sugar)?
Because the World is mostly populated by cheap little chavs and the monkeys who run these companies will always go for the lowest common denominator.
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:10 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
Because the World is populated with cheap little chavs and the monkeys who run these companies will always go for the lowest common denominator.
Right. And it's these bastards that stopped making Crystal Pepsi when it was turning a profit but 'enough' of one.

Damn them all to hell.
     
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:12 PM
 
Everything sucks.
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:12 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar V View Post
It brings up a question which everyone knows the answer, but not everyone likes.

Why can't they sell more expensive versions with real chocolate (or a coke with real sugar)?
Drink Jones.
     
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:13 PM
 
I have absolutely no idea what a Crystal Pepsi is, but...

Originally Posted by Dakar V View Post
Damn them all to hell.
I concur.
Been inclined to wander... off the beaten track.
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Originally Posted by osiris View Post
Everything sucks.
...Except the wife. And the vacuum cleaner.
Been inclined to wander... off the beaten track.
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:14 PM
 
Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
Drink Jones.
Actually, I don't give a **** about Coke, but thanks.
     
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Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
...Except the wife. And the vacuum cleaner.
And they said Vaudeville was dead.
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:19 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar V View Post
It brings up a question which everyone knows the answer, but not everyone likes.

Why can't they sell more expensive versions with real chocolate (or a coke with real sugar)?
"They" do. In fact, "they" have for a long, long time. It's just that "they" aren't Hershey's, or KraftJacobsSuchard, or Nestlé.

There's some GREAT chocolate out there, and to be honest, if you thought Hershey's was it, then the vegetable oil in there is a FAR smaller deal than you make it out to be.

     
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:21 PM
 
Originally Posted by Eriamjh View Post
It's worse than the 1.75-quart ice-cream issue!
Last month the 1.75-quart cartons dropped to 1.5, at least around my area. Also they stopped being on sale all the time.
     
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Originally Posted by osiris View Post
And they said Vaudeville was dead.
Who did ?!?!?
     
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by analogika View Post
"if you thought Hershey's was it, then the vegetable oil in there is a FAR smaller deal than you make it out to be.
I didn't and seriously, what is up with everyone taking pot-shots at everyone the past few days? Is everyone else quitting smoking with Calverson?
     
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:24 PM
 
It depends on the country you live in. Great chocolate isn't readily available at the corner store in most towns in the US.
Honestly I haven't had anything from Hershey's in years. My most recent chocolate was from Hokkaido (extra dark).
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Originally Posted by mattyb View Post
Who did ?!?!?
The talkies.
     
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by mattyb View Post
Who did ?!?!?
analogika's they. Not to be confused with them.
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:28 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar V View Post
The talkies.
Barstewards, they'll pay !
     
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:28 PM
 
Originally Posted by osiris View Post
It depends on the country you live in. Great chocolate isn't readily available at the corner store in most towns in the US.
I bought an AOL for my MAC a couple of years ago, and it's been sending me chocolate ever since.


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Sep 24, 2008, 02:29 PM
 
Originally Posted by osiris View Post
analogika's they. Not to be confused with them.
Oh. THEM. Don't want to fcuk around with THEM.
     
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:31 PM
 
Originally Posted by analogika View Post
I bought an AOL for my MAC a couple of years ago, and it's been sending me chocolate ever since.


(and porn)
Yeah, but MACs suck.
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Originally Posted by analogika View Post
"They" do. In fact, "they" have for a long, long time. It's just that "they" aren't Hershey's, or KraftJacobsSuchard, or Nestlé.

There's some GREAT chocolate out there, and to be honest, if you thought Hershey's was it, then the vegetable oil in there is a FAR smaller deal than you make it out to be.

The man speaks truth. Even without going to weird Dutch chocolate makers, there's much better chocolate out there than what most people eat.
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:40 PM
 
ooo, here's an idea:
     
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Nope.
     
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Sep 24, 2008, 02:50 PM
 
While Dakar and his offspring can no doubt list many defaults of the French, the local chocolatier is a fine institution.
     
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Sep 24, 2008, 05:10 PM
 
Check out these links. These will solve all your chocolate problems.

Happy Eating!


Ghirardelli - http://www.ghirardelli.com/
Godiva - http://www.godiva.com/
Lindt - http://www.lindtusa.com/
Poulain - http://www.poulainchocolate.com/ (my favorite but difficult to find in the US)
Scharffen Berger - http://www.scharffenberger.com/
Valrhona - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valrhona
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Sep 24, 2008, 05:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar V View Post
Why can't they sell more expensive versions with real chocolate (or a coke with real sugar)?
You can stock up right before the Jewish holiday Passover when Coke is made with real sugar. Just look for a differently colored cap and some indication it is kosher for passover.
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Originally Posted by SSharon View Post
You can stock up right before the Jewish holiday Passover when Coke is made with real sugar. Just look for a differently colored cap and some indication it is kosher for passover.
Hey, thanks for the useful info! now all I need to do is covert to Coke…
     
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Originally Posted by Dakar V View Post
now all I need to do is covert to Coke…
Make the switch, all the cool kids are drinking it: http://forums.macnn.com/89/macnn-lou...epsi-vote-now/

BTW: Go to any "real" Mexican restaurant, the kind that's a little hole in the wall in a Mexican neighborhood, and you can get Coke made with cane sugar. Personally, I prefer HFCS in my Coke.

I think Costco has cane sugar Coke as well.

OT: Most of this doesn't really bother me. I'd read a few months ago that Hershey's had to change labeling something and call it "Chocolate food". I haven't had Hershey's anything in a LONG time. Hershey's is the Walmart* of the candy world.
     
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Pepsi is the Mac of the soda world!
     
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Originally Posted by Dakar V View Post
Pepsi is the Dollar General of the soda world!
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Originally Posted by mattyb View Post
Oh. THEM. Don't want to fcuk around with THEM.
HELL NO!

No chocolate from *them*, either.
     
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Sep 24, 2008, 07:03 PM
 
I can't believe you women are all so freaked out about this.

Seriously. Women.



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Originally Posted by Dakar V View Post
Pepsi is the Mac of the soda world!
I used to prefer Pepsi over Coke until I started drinking it with rum. Now I get ticked when I ask for a rum and Coke and the bartender has the nerve to give me a rum and Pepsi.
     
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Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy View Post
Scharffen Berger - http://www.scharffenberger.com/
...is owned by Hershey's.
     
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What kind of real bar has Pepsi instead of Coke? Seriously!

It's like Milk and Cookies. But instead of milk, you are offered white colored pee.
     
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No thanks.
     
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Maybe if chocolate is cheaper per gallon than oil, I can youse it in my car.
     
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Are you drunk?
     
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and we now have a new posting junkie (43 posts late, but whatever)
     
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http://www.vosgeschocolate.com/

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That's not cocoa butter. That's carbonite.


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haha, sweet. yeah, I said it.
     
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haha, sweet. yeah, I said it.
     
 
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