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May 15, 2017, 11:47 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Just a random observation.

This...

...never gets old.
Yeah, I've noticed that some of the authors sprinkle in specific numbers, I've seen one where 21 one staffers, aides and allies commented off the record Seems as if a lot of people want to get a word in.
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May 15, 2017, 02:25 PM
 
My focus was more on the leakers leaking Trump really hates leaks.
     
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May 15, 2017, 02:54 PM
 
CNN has found an impeachable offense.
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May 15, 2017, 11:15 PM
 
Have you guys seen how on almost any topic he brings up or is involved in, Trump seems to have a tweet damning his own actions?

On today's story:
Crooked Hillary Clinton and her team "were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information." Not fit!
     
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May 17, 2017, 09:10 PM
 
I heard the idea the extent to which Republicans are willing to break ranks should be measured against them doing so over pussy grabbing.

I'd say we're at least a 1.2 to 1.5 PGs right now.
     
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May 17, 2017, 09:22 PM
 
That's probably accurate. Someone should see if there's a correlation between how deep GOP members frowned then and now (get to it fivethirtyeight)
     
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May 18, 2017, 01:47 PM
 
Did Trump stop shaking hands like a ****nut?
     
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May 18, 2017, 03:56 PM
 
38% seems to be Trumps basement approval per Gallup. I assume only policy decisions his supporters hate can make it go lower. It's been steady most of the week.

Conversely 57% seems to be his peak disapproval.
     
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May 20, 2017, 08:19 PM
 
What, no bow?
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May 20, 2017, 08:27 PM
 
What, no scarf?

     
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May 21, 2017, 08:43 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
My focus was more on the leakers leaking Trump really hates leaks.
Unless they come from Russian hookers.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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May 21, 2017, 12:18 PM
 
I hear they're the best in the world.
     
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May 21, 2017, 08:43 PM
 
Ask Bill (or maybe even Hillary).
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May 21, 2017, 09:10 PM
 
I never heard any rumours that Bill liked his hookers to leak.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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May 21, 2017, 09:56 PM
 
I suspect Bill's women leaked blood, after he raped them.
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May 21, 2017, 10:18 PM
 
That escalated quickly.
     
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May 22, 2017, 06:38 AM
 
I don't know how so many on the Left will ignore the standing rape allegations against Bill but will continue to drone on about Trump and Russian hookers. Hell, even if some hookers did pee on a bed at Trump's request (disproven), that's not even in the same league as the eight women who, to this day, accuse Clinton of sexual assault.

But hey, Hillary said we should believe all women who say they've been raped... unless if her hubby is the perp, I guess. To be fair, she once believed that, I guess, but then changed her mind when it sounded a little too hypocritical, even for her. http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinto...o-be-believed/
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May 22, 2017, 12:14 PM
 
The obvious answer is most people on the left don't think he's guilty of the charge.


I don't think anyone who's rational actuallly believes you should truly always believe the woman. It's rhetoric.

Presented as an argument instead of a slogan, the harder a legit rape victim is going to get grilled, the less likely they are to come forward.

Note, I'm not offering a solution to the problem, merely noting the existence of the dynamic. Were I to offer a solution, it wouldn't be a silly one like "women must always be believed".


Interestingly, I've been told the Clinton campaign was very aware Bill is a poor spokesman for their "woman power" message, which lead to the dubious decision not to take advantage of his fluency in poor, uneducated white.
     
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May 22, 2017, 12:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
I don't know how so many on the Left will ignore the standing rape allegations against Bill but will continue to drone on about Trump and Russian hookers.
Have you seen anyone here defend Bill? Or are you referencing the bogeyman "Leftists" that you hate so very very much that you can't go 8 minutes without bringing them up?
     
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May 22, 2017, 01:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
What, no scarf?

The Trump Tweet rule is amazing. The guy managed to bitch about everything
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
The Trump Tweet rule is amazing. The guy managed to bitch about everything
Honestly though, I felt this was a bit of a cheap shot on my part.

A not so cheap shot would be to note his abandoned complaints on how the Saudis treat women and homosexuals. He quite impressively no longer gives a shit.
     
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May 22, 2017, 02:29 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Honestly though, I felt this was a bit of a cheap shot on my part.

A not so cheap shot would be to note his abandoned complaints on how the Saudis treat women and homosexuals. He quite impressively no longer gives a shit.
Ivanka managed to get them and the UAE to pony up some money to the World Bank women's entrepreneurs fund, then the LWMSM tried to fake news it into the "Invanka Trump Foundation"

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...epreneurs-fund
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
Ivanka managed to get them and the UAE to pony up some money to the World Bank women's entrepreneurs fund, then the LWMSM tried to fake news it into the "Invanka Trump Foundation"

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...epreneurs-fund
What to you, is the important distinction between the two?
     
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May 22, 2017, 02:49 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Honestly though, I felt this was a bit of a cheap shot on my part.

A not so cheap shot would be to note his abandoned complaints on how the Saudis treat women and homosexuals. He quite impressively no longer gives a shit.
I'm not sure I see the cheap shot. His wife and daughter made the same 'insult' by his vast views.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I'm not sure I see the cheap shot. His wife and daughter made the same 'insult' by his vast views.
Ignoring the headscarf, as much as was practical, Obama took the Saudis to task for being utter shitheels.

Not only does Trump not care how rotten they are, his message to the Saudis is we'll ****ing help out.


Still ignoring the headscarf because considering the context, it's well and truly meaningless.
     
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May 22, 2017, 03:48 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
What to you, is the important distinction between the two?
Which two?
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Ignoring the headscarf, as much as was practical, Obama took the Saudis to task for being utter shitheels.

Not only does Trump not care how rotten they are, his message to the Saudis is we'll ****ing help out.
I'm not well-read on this, how does Trump's deal differ from what the US has been doing for years?
     
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
Ivanka managed to get them and the UAE to pony up some money to the World Bank women's entrepreneurs fund, then the LWMSM tried to fake news it into the "Invanka Trump Foundation"

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...epreneurs-fund
What exactly is the false claim here?

I wouldn't call The Hill left-wing. Nor the WSJ, but that article is paywalled.
     
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
Which two?
Between Ivankas foundation and Clintons.
     
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
I'm not well-read on this, how does Trump's deal differ from what the US has been doing for years?
We'll never ****ing learn. We don't want or know how to do it so we'll keep arming other people and hope the weapons don't get used against their own people or us further down the line.
     
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
I'm not well-read on this, how does Trump's deal differ from what the US has been doing for years?
Those arms came with the added price tag of us bitching about Saudi human rights atrocities, and later on, us playing nice with Iran.

They no longer have to pay it, and there isn't enough shit in the world to feed the grins on their faces.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Those arms came with the added price tag of us bitching about Saudi human rights atrocities, and later on, us playing nice with Iran.

They no longer have to pay it, and there isn't enough shit in the world to feed the grins on their faces.
To be fair stern words are pretty weak price tag.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
To be fair stern words are pretty weak price tag.
It's less than I'd like, but I wouldn't call the price tag small.

When Obama took whacks at the Saudis on their invitation, they couldn't follow the normal "information suppression" playbook.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Between Ivankas foundation and Clintons.
Ivanka controls the World Bank?

http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/21/jo...-ivanka-trump/

Journalists and pundits spread fake news on Twitter Sunday that Ivanka Trump was engaged in pay-to-play with Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.

The false story started with a Wall Street Journal reporter Rebecca Ballhaus misrepresenting an article from her own outlet. The story, “Saudi Arabia, U.A.E. Pledge $100 Million To World Bank’s Women Entrepreneurs Fund,” says that the president’s daughter proposed the creation of the fund, but “Ms. Trump doesn’t control it or raise money for it.”

Ballhaus, however, said in a tweet that it was “Ivanka’s Women Entrepreneurs Fund.” Reporters ended up picking up on the tweet, and CNN’s Jim Sciutto wrote, “This is virtually identical to what Trump and others in GOP criticized Clinton Foundation for.” His tweet received nearly 10,000 retweets.
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May 22, 2017, 04:58 PM
 
That's a good distinction but if she doesn't raise money for it, the timing of that pledge is really coincidental.

Still, I agree it's a meaningless gripe.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Did Trump stop shaking hands like a ****nut?
     
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Hard to tell if he's rating a 1.5 on the ****nut scale, or his normal 4.7 is getting grip-blocked.
     
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His arm got noodled.
     
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Since this is the second time it's happened it's apparently a thing
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Since this is the second time it's happened it's apparently a thing
...so then he grabbed da butt.
     
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May 24, 2017, 02:11 PM
 
That one is better than the first, but I feel they both have plausible alternative explanations.
     
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I wrote off the first one but this seems like a reaction to me.
     
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May 24, 2017, 03:40 PM
 
I agree. It's tougher to dismiss.

The irony is these two get along so much better.




Edit: realized this needs to be explained as not sarcastic. Even though she's mad, it's a bizarrely loving exchange.
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Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
...so then he grabbed da butt.
I'm not seeing a problem there. Why is this a thing? He gently touched his wife's bottom, like just almost every other spouse absently does.
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The thing is the appearance of Melania giving him the brush-off.
     
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Pulling her hair away from her eyes so she can see to walk down the steps?
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Hence my qualifiers "appearance of" and "plausible alternative".
     
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Personally, I don't see how thinking she's brushing him off, in that instance, is plausible. I mean, hell, her hair really was in her eyes.
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
That one is better than the first, but I feel they both have plausible alternative explanations.
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I wrote off the first one but this seems like a reaction to me.
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I'm not seeing a problem there. Why is this a thing? He gently touched his wife's bottom, like just almost every other spouse absently does.
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The thing is the appearance of Melania giving him the brush-off.
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Pulling her hair away from her eyes so she can see to walk down the steps?
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Hence my qualifiers "appearance of" and "plausible alternative".
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Personally, I don't see how thinking she's brushing him off, in that instance, is plausible. I mean, hell, her hair really was in her eyes.
...

Honestly, what has happened to us?
     
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I'm just trying to figure out how everything Trump does is wrong and/or evil. That's why I push back, I simply don't see it. Has he done bad things? Yes. Is it all bad, 24/7? Hell no. It's completely out of control and will come back to bite his more vehement detractors.
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