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Coco Bongo · Apr 17, 2003, 12:09 PM

Sign for a mac ersion of Kazaa.

http://www.petitiononline.com/mackazaa/petition.html

hmurchison2001 · Apr 17, 2003, 12:16 PM

Originally posted by Coco Bongo:
Sign for a mac ersion of Kazaa.

http://www.petitiononline.com/mackazaa/petition.html

Kazaa sucks. Way too much spyware.

npmccallum · Apr 17, 2003, 12:17 PM

Originally posted by hmurchison2001:
Kazaa sucks. Way too much spyware.

DITTO! Try http://www.acquisitionx.com/

Peter · Apr 17, 2003, 12:18 PM

Kazaa blows, Kazaa light is better, surely you want a P2P client running on the same network as Kazaa NOT the program?

hmurchison2001 · Apr 17, 2003, 12:20 PM

What's the deal with GiFT and OpenFT?

I'm still unsure as to what OpenFT does. Anyone care to summarize?

OptimusG4 · Apr 17, 2003, 12:33 PM

Originally posted by Coco Bongo:
Sign for a mac ersion of Kazaa.

http://www.petitiononline.com/mackazaa/petition.html

Do these EVER work?

dampeoples · Apr 17, 2003, 12:46 PM

/start 'that' discussion
Buy your music, movies, porn, etc!
/end 'that' discussion

Peter · Apr 17, 2003, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by hmurchison2001:
What's the deal with GiFT and OpenFT?

I'm still unsure as to what OpenFT does. Anyone care to summarize?

I use GiFT its just another P2P network

Adam Betts · Apr 17, 2003, 01:16 PM

Let's hope the spyware will be written in Cocoa.

KidRed · Apr 17, 2003, 01:56 PM

I was under the imprseeion that the wasy kaaza servers work, there's no way a mac client would be able to communicate or something and that's why there is and won't be a mac version.

Direct Connect is cool, but I got banned somehow from the big servers (not enough Gb maybe?) Aquisition never downloads anything it finds and LimeWire never does eitehr-course it never finds anything either.

Synotic · Apr 17, 2003, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by KidRed:
I was under the imprseeion that the wasy kaaza servers work, there's no way a mac client would be able to communicate or something and that's why there is and won't be a mac version.

The only reason there aren't any third-party clients is because the service is encrypted, otherwise it'd work fine

Anomalous · Apr 17, 2003, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by Coco Bongo:
Sign for a mac ersion of Kazaa.

http://www.petitiononline.com/mackazaa/petition.html

I would sign, except that I don't want to give out my e-mail address. I find it hard to believe that it would be impossible for Macs to run Kazaa.

What would be really nice is a Mac version of Kazaa Lite.

Peter · Apr 17, 2003, 04:23 PM

You can have your email address as hidden

Dont bother, no one actually reads the petition

Mediaman_12 · Apr 17, 2003, 04:38 PM

But remember, Mac's getting (official) access to a 'popular' P2P network, is usually a sign of the begining of the end of that particular network.

Napster: Mac Client. then a few months later Court action finished the network.
Audio Galaxy: (official) Mac Client, a month or so later, more Cort action, No more AG.

There is a pattern developing here.

yukon · Apr 17, 2003, 06:27 PM

kazaa shows the potential of a unified P2P internet. pretty awesome. unfortunatly, the internet chose the best client, out of which were all crap at the time. i'd suggest a pentium machine on a network, easy to run it transparently, hide it, etc. you can use PC MacLAN for appletalk (download to a folder on your mac), and VNC (RealVNC and mac VNCThing) to control it remotely. pentiums are free now, and faster than VPC (also a choice). Kazaa will die eventually, but it's pretty useful now.

if you can code, donate time to developing OpenFT (giFT's main protocol). that way, when it's ready, we'll have an Open Source standard, with the combined files of Gnutella, WinMX, Kazaa, and what-have-you. the OpenFT network cannot be shut down, with it's Open Source nature, and the invent of a new type of router node. as secure as a P2P, but as extensible as a server->client like Kazaa (the terminology gets shaky here, kazaa= server->client connections and P2P transfers).

kazaalite.tk
gift.sf.net
sf.net/projects/giftbox

suthercd · Apr 17, 2003, 06:42 PM

I assist a couple of groups of people who have PCs with Windows and hardware maintenance. I've explained to them about Kaaza and the background processes it installs. When you download and install Kaaza, the EULA (user agreement) clearly states that they will put these other programs on the user's machine.

Kaaza works well as mentioned above. But the spyware installed intially slows down performance dramatically then the apps it installs will affected browser windows and browser graphics to the point that the machine is unusable.

The machine has Win98 installed and when operating normally has 9-11 processes running when no apps are open. After a week of Kaaza, it will have as many as 30-35 processes running. Each of those takess chip cycles at the least and some become destructive.

Kaaza can do what they do because the are getting lots (!!!!) of revenue by installing those buggy spyware pieces.

Download on a friends PC and burn your music on a CD to takee home. Or copy the music over the net to your mac from his machine.

Craig

yukon · Apr 17, 2003, 09:16 PM

craig, that's largely unnecessary. Kazaa Lite strips out the spyware, available from my above post. there's also AdAware (lavasoft.de) that will clear out spyware crap. i usually catch maybe 4 things, friends have caught up to 400 installed spyware componants using this application. and no, it does not contain spyware. beyond that, it would be prudent to install McAfee VirusScan, the PC equivinant of Virex.

coolmacdude · Apr 17, 2003, 10:34 PM

Good idea, I hope it will get a lot of sigs.

kOnshii · Apr 18, 2003, 12:20 AM

Silly people,

Thats why people use Kazaa lite, with NO spyware.

I found it to be less buggy also.

Coco Bongo · Apr 18, 2003, 07:57 AM

More than 150 signs now. Come on !

sushiism · Apr 18, 2003, 08:07 AM

kazaa will be dead soon, DC is gonna be the next main client, and we have a mac version HURRAH!

Peter · Apr 18, 2003, 08:18 AM

I dont think Mac users want the stinking pile of spyware on OS X....Perhaps a Kazaa Lite, or better yet, rather than porting some crappy app. Why dont they make a nice new P2P app, for OS X?!
Or you could just buy all the stuff you are downloading

djjava · Apr 18, 2003, 08:26 AM

Originally posted by npmccallum:
DITTO! Try http://www.acquisitionx.com/

acquisition is fantastic! just dl'ed it last night... thanks for the recommendation.

invisibleX · Apr 18, 2003, 08:39 AM

Acquisition sucks. It really really really sucks. Not only does it find precious little of anything there's also a 90% chance that it won't download.

Neo is fairly good. Much better selection and its easy to tell what downloads will work (still baffles me why the ones that won't still come up in a search). It does take an immense amount of scanning to actually get any servers though.

eDonkey is horrible. I have no clue why searching with it is so painful and why downloading is so fricking slow.

I still haven't managed to get giFT installed.

We need a good p2p program thats going to actually work as well as Kazaa on the PC.

suthercd · Apr 18, 2003, 10:39 AM

Thanks for the info about Kaaza Lite. yukon- AdAware is one of the tools I use to clean their HDs- works well.

Craig

phillryu · Apr 18, 2003, 10:50 AM

Whoever wrote the actual petition.. first, Apple has no official plans to purchase Universal Music. The sentence, "Actually unofficial versions of kazaa (like NEO) are very limited." is probably incorrect, as "actually" points towards a previous sentence that should have mentioned that there -are- other alternatives. Also, if you yourself are in need of some mp3 sharing programs, giFT and Acquisition usually find any mp3 I need.

KidRed · Apr 18, 2003, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by Synotic:
The only reason there aren't any third-party clients is because the service is encrypted, otherwise it'd work fine

Ah so it's encrypted. I just remember someone from Kaaza explaining why there wont'/wouldn't be a mac version.

Zimphire · Apr 18, 2003, 11:35 AM

Direct Connect's GUI need totally redone. Too many redundant windows, and I wasn't impressed with it at all. I haven't had any problems with Acquisition in the past 4 or 5 versions. I always seem to find and download what I am looking for.

xtal · Apr 18, 2003, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by dampeoples:
/start 'that' discussion
Buy your music, movies, porn, etc!
/end 'that' discussion

*LOL*

Ken Masters · Apr 18, 2003, 07:41 PM

Acquisition

HUH!!!!!

My Grandma gets around faster.

pimephalis · Apr 18, 2003, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by invisibleX:
Acquisition sucks. It really really really sucks. Not only does it find precious little of anything there's also a 90% chance that it won't download.

Neo is fairly good. Much better selection and its easy to tell what downloads will work (still baffles me why the ones that won't still come up in a search). It does take an immense amount of scanning to actually get any servers though.

eDonkey is horrible. I have no clue why searching with it is so painful and why downloading is so fricking slow.

I still haven't managed to get giFT installed.

We need a good p2p program thats going to actually work as well as Kazaa on the PC.

I cannot recommend giFT and giFTBox highly enough. The user base is a little smaller, but when the search function finds a file, you know it actually exists and you have a hope in hell of getting it. I've been using it for a while, and find it wonderful.

As for those who have had trouble getting it installed, search this forum for some other posts wrt to giFTBoX where I posted a bunch of messages detailing the work that you have to do to get it working. Here, for the lazy, is the scoop:

For some reason, giftbox creates all the necessary directories and whatnot, but sometimes (always?) misses a couple of files necessary to get OpenFT working. These files are in ~/.giFT/OpenFT/. You need three files in that directory: OpenFT.conf, nodes and nodes_fmt.pl. The latter must also be executable (the little .pl extension tells you it's a perl script). Sometimes those files aren't there, and in order to get giftbox running you have to go and get them either from the web CVS (at the giftbox sourceforge site) or you have to get some friendly person to send them to you (by iChat -- I've already hooked up at least three, maybe four, people).

If you want the help and see me on iChat (same nick), drop me a line -- if I'm busy I'll tell you to screw; otherwise, I'll walk you through it.

Agent69 · Apr 18, 2003, 08:55 PM

Originally posted by Coco Bongo:
Sign for a mac ersion of Kazaa.

http://www.petitiononline.com/mackazaa/petition.html

I'm not going to help you steal music and movies.

billybob · Apr 18, 2003, 09:08 PM

Yes we all know how well online petitions work!!!! Especially when they're full of spelling and grammatical errors up the wazoo, and sound as if they're written by some 12 year old ****. Not that I'm saying this petition is anything like that. Nope not at all.

For christs sake just go spend 200 bucks and build yourself a cheap PC for the soul purpose of downloading music and movies. Hell spend a few hundred more and get a good PC to go along with your mac. That's what I did a long time ago and am very happy about it.