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Any cameras with GPS available yet/soon?
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My ancient CyberShot ('is that a huge camera in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?') is due for an update, but I'm not in any hurry as it still works fine. I was wondering, I've heard people mention GPS in cameras as being the next big thing; is this actually trickling down to consumer cameras or is it still a pipe dream? I think it would be a very cool feature. Do you think it's a good idea or would battery drain / privacy issues etc outweigh the benefits?
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I heard about this great idea a year ago. I'd be interested in this as well.
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I think software makes it pretty easy to just have a GPS in your backpack or whatever, and sync up the GPS locations with the camera timestamps. So having two devices is still the norm, I think.
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Pipe dream.
Don't see the point for consumers and current batteries aren't up for it. A camera that has a 5h standby time is pointless. A camera needs to last +1000 shots and virtually infinite standby time for me.
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But hasn't Nokia just brought out a phone with built in GPS? Surely phones are meant to have even longer standby time than cameras, so it may be possible?
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I think it would be a great idea. The cost of GPS in both manufacturing and battery life has gotten so low there's really no point in NOT doing it.
If you want your camera to last 1000+ shots, then you can turn the GPS off.
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What would be the point of GPS in a camera?
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It marks the location as given by the GPS within each photo. Just like the camera stores infor on exposure, etc.
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Originally Posted by climber
It marks the location as given by the GPS within each photo. Just like the camera stores infor on exposure, etc.
Sounds like a cool but ultimately useless feature unless someone has a special reason for using it.
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Originally Posted by Goldfinger
Pipe dream.
Don't see the point for consumers and current batteries aren't up for it. A camera that has a 5h standby time is pointless. A camera needs to last +1000 shots and virtually infinite standby time for me.
IMHO, it's not a pipe dream... it's going to be a reality before all that long. The batteries are up for it and most users don't need 1000+ shots with infinite standby.
New Zealand's Rakon develops world's smallest GPS receiver - Engadget
I firmly believe that such GPS receivers will start showing up in many places (laptops, cars, cell phones, cameras, etc.) and will be rather useful if appropriately implemented.
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Sounds like a cool but ultimately useless feature unless someone has a special reason for using it.
Is it useless to know where you took a photo? Sounds as basic as a time stamp, shutter speed, etc. Think if iPhoto had a feature where you could map your photos?
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Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh
Is it useless to know where you took a photo? Sounds as basic as a time stamp, shutter speed, etc. Think if iPhoto had a feature where you could map your photos?
It could be cool, but usually you have a good idea of where your photos are taken, so I don't particularly see the point.
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I doubt it would be worth it. I would never bother waiting minutes for the GPS device to connect and authenticate.
Too much wasted time.
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Maybe _I_ know where the picture was taken, but how about if the pictures were passed down over generations, or even posted on a web site today? I think the idea of a GPS in a cam is a wonderful idea.
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Yeah I think it would be pretty cool. Since I've had my old camera I've travelled round the US East Coast, Israel, the Sinai and all over Europe. It would be pretty cool to be able to see a Google Maps type thing where it flagged the countries/locations where you'd taken pictures and you could click to go to those pictures. I realise you can probably do that sort of thing already with the right software, but it's quite an effort tagging all your photos for this purpose. It would be nice if it did it automatically.
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Two interesting pieces of software:
GPSPhotoLinker: Overview -- uses your GPS log to load geotags into your photos. Then you can (for example) search Spotlight for "Seattle" and get all photos taken there.
iCraig - Software - iPhotoToGoogleEarth -- generates a KMZ file so you can browse through your photos via Google Earth.
For hiking and river trips especially this would be fun. Too bad I don't have a gps...
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Originally Posted by willed
But hasn't Nokia just brought out a phone with built in GPS? Surely phones are meant to have even longer standby time than cameras, so it may be possible?
Yup, the N95. And battery life is horrible. Even with the GPS turned off. But then again most Series 60 Nokias have horrible battery life.
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Originally Posted by Mithras
Two interesting pieces of software:
GPSPhotoLinker: Overview -- uses your GPS log to load geotags into your photos. Then you can (for example) search Spotlight for "Seattle" and get all photos taken there.
iCraig - Software - iPhotoToGoogleEarth -- generates a KMZ file so you can browse through your photos via Google Earth.
For hiking and river trips especially this would be fun. Too bad I don't have a gps...
Cool stuff. You can use it without a GPS if you input the locations through their Geotagger software apparently... but then it's all a bit much effort. It would be great if this was built in to cameras and integrated between iPhoto/Aperture and GoogleEarth. If anyone does it, it'll probably be Apple and Google leading the way.
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Seems like a useless add-on to charge more of a camera.
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Originally Posted by mac128k-1984
Seems like a useless add-on to charge more of a camera.
You mean like timestamping?
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Originally Posted by starman
You mean like timestamping?
I think cameras that print the time/date on the picture actually cost less.
If you mean exif data, that's another story. But you do realize you are comparing apples and oranges right?
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I'm saying that GPS costs significantly less than it used to and it's not such a stupid idea. You have the capability of saving WHEN, why not WHERE?
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ah, but a photo does say WHERE
picture is worth a 1000 words remember?
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Here's an example, kind of:
A few years ago my dad got his Colorado River permit (after a 12-year wait!), and we led a 20-day trip with a bunch of friends. I tagged most of our photos with the river mile, so you can scroll down a map of the river, with rapids and side canyons marked, seeing the pictures as you go:
Colorado River photos, by river mile
It was fun, but it was a pain in the arse, and geotagging would have been awesome.
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I think I would prefer something more along the lines of a camera with bluetooth and a separate bluetooth enabled gps unit. It would be pretty sweet to have the gps functionality though for picture location. I like the idea.
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A ton of cell phones in the US have GPS at this point (I know all new Sprint phones will), perhaps bluetooth to the phone to grab your location?
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Originally Posted by King Bob On The Cob
A ton of cell phones in the US have GPS at this point (I know all new Sprint phones will), perhaps bluetooth to the phone to grab your location?
Or just download the steam of time and location captures and sync with the photo timestamp?
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Originally Posted by starman
You mean like timestamping?
Time stamping is a useful add on, GPS is not. Gee, am I in my living room, or my dining room when I took that picture, oh wait let use my in camera GPS.
I've taken photos all over the continent, from Canada to Mexico and I've never once wondered, thought of or needed some sort of gps for my pictures.
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I agree that this would be useful for future generations or for sharing online. I could see some benefit to searching google image for 'boot' or something and then specifying only pics from the US so I get pics of shoes instead of car trunks.
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Originally Posted by mac128k-1984
Time stamping is a useful add on, GPS is not. Gee, am I in my living room, or my dining room when I took that picture, oh wait let use my in camera GPS.
I've taken photos all over the continent, from Canada to Mexico and I've never once wondered, thought of or needed some sort of gps for my pictures.
You need to think outside the box.
My grandparents passed away recently and there were a TON of pictureswe found that we had no idea where they were taken or when.
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Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -
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Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -
Very cool, just the sort of thing I was thinking about. I would love it if that was all done automatically, but it sounds like that's not going to happen for a few years.
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However one gets the GPS data into the camera, having a GPS stamp on digital images WOULD be useful in a lot of situations. Not photo contests, but what about people who simply want to remember "where were we when you took that picture?" Or even "was that facing west in the afternoon or east in the morning?" It would be a very nice thing to have.
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Originally Posted by ghporter
However one gets the GPS data into the camera, having a GPS stamp on digital images WOULD be useful in a lot of situations. Not photo contests, but what about people who simply want to remember "where were we when you took that picture?" Or even "was that facing west in the afternoon or east in the morning?" It would be a very nice thing to have.
it would be nice if they made a way for the camera to make two copies of the pictures. One with the stamp, and one without
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Originally Posted by ghporter
However one gets the GPS data into the camera, having a GPS stamp on digital images WOULD be useful in a lot of situations. Not photo contests, but what about people who simply want to remember "where were we when you took that picture?" Or even "was that facing west in the afternoon or east in the morning?" It would be a very nice thing to have.
Maybe I'm in the minority but I tend to remember where I shoot and short of the geek factor of adding the gps to the camera I'm still not seeing a need.
Originally Posted by brassplayersrock
it would be nice if they made a way for the camera to make two copies of the pictures. One with the stamp, and one without
The date stamp is in the exif, so you should be able to use that.
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You could also use GPS data to search for all photos in your library that you have taken in a particular geographic area. Combined with Goggle earth or some other maping program you could quite easily find that one of Old Faithful out of 4,000 you took at yellowstone last summer.
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What's wrong with you people? Just because YOU don't see the need, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be an option. Dadgum. I guarantee 95% of people posting in this thread don't use 50% of their camera's features -- so should the unused ones be removed?
OH WAIT! They already do that with LOWER-PRICED cameras. And wait -- HIGHER-PRICED cameras have more features! D'oh! Maybe since GPS is a feature only high-end photogs will use, it'll only come with HIGH-PRICED cameras. Hopefully the Camera Cabal won't force all the point-n-shoots to buy such fancy new things!!11!
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Originally Posted by RAILhead
What's wrong with you people? Just because YOU don't see the need, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be an option. Dadgum. I guarantee 95% of people posting in this thread don't use 50% of their camera's features -- so should the unused ones be removed?
OH WAIT! They already do that with LOWER-PRICED cameras. And wait -- HIGHER-PRICED cameras have more features! D'oh! Maybe since GPS is a feature only high-end photogs will use, it'll only come with HIGH-PRICED cameras. Hopefully the Camera Cabal won't force all the point-n-shoots to buy such fancy new things!!11!
You know, it's kind of funny, but as I saw the thread listed on the main page I thought "You know, my camera has a ton of features I don't use, might as well add GPS and a feature that allows me to type text onto the picture labeling items of interest."
I guess I am in the camp of add GPS now. But just like the flash, I will probably use it every 10,000 pictures or so.
If they can add it cheaply to a $50 phone, they can add it cheaply to a $200 camera.
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I have a CF GPS card that is VERY useful, but only on a supported device (like a computer with a PC card slot or a PDA with a CF slot). But to have something (not too complicated and not too many cables) that would provide GPS data to a camera when I wanted it would be very, VERY handy.
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Someone has a posting in the Aperture forums at Apple saying how it has his Sony dongle working. I would love to have this built into Aperture/iPhoto. I take a few road trips a year for work and I've already forgotten where I've taken a few photos.
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(skirting the 6 month limit)
Apparently, GPS cameras are going to be announced/released at CES in January. Not such a stupid idea, is it?
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IT SUCKS. I WOULDN'T USE IT SO NO ONE SHOULD.
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Just another way for big brother to keep an eye on you.
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Having the data stamped into EXIF would be nice.
Whenever I import a photo into iPhoto I use keywords to assign it a location and who is in it. My iPhoto library is very searchable because of that. Having GPS coordinates already in the photo would be one less manual step.
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I could see some type of google maps integration with that data.
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So a camera with a GPS built in, sounds a little like feature creep - at first blush at least. On further contemplation, it could be a good idea. I'll have to see how it plays out before I jump on the bandwagon. Of course my D70 is working well enough anyways so its unlikely I'll be needing to upgrade that in the near future.
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We just talked about this at work today, over the lunch
I think it would be a good feature to have, I like to have my photos geotagged and currently when uploading to Flickr, its a slow manual process. But when it's finished, it great!
But when I look in iPhoto, select a picture and press the apple-key+i, there is a "GPS Latitude", "GPS Longitude" and "GPS Altitude" so is iPhoto GPS-enabled already?
My Flickr map.
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Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth
I could see some type of google maps integration with that data.
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Not exactly what I was thinking, but cool none the less.
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