[Apple Pro Underwear]

yeah it should be more ram but for THIS device it is not an issue for me


i was on a g3 at work for a good portion of last year



[graphic designer too]

[chingwei]

Originally posted by OAW:
- The Mac Mini s/b called the iMac mini. Not only does this roll off the tongue better, but it the "mini" part then serves as a modifier to the main product. Just like iPod and iPod mini. There is no "Mac" product in the lineup.

What about "miniMac"? Not PowerMac, but miniMac... and it contains the string "iMac" too!

.... eh? .... eh?

[Albert Pujols]

Argh..I have to say it again..

WHERE ARE THE DAMN POWERBOOKS!?

[lavar78]

Originally posted by Albert Pujols:
WHERE ARE THE DAMN POWERBOOKS!?

Right here.

[itistoday]

Originally posted by lavar78:
Right here.

damn you for getting my hopes up! I actually clicked that link...

[chris v]

Originally posted by Albert Pujols:
Argh..I have to say it again..

WHERE ARE THE DAMN POWERBOOKS!?

That's the spirit!

Hey, where are the folks who thought they were going to announce 10.4 available immediately? Musta been Insider goons.

[demograph68]

Originally posted by sworthy:
...Not something we want potential switchers to think.

No, they'll think," Wow, 1.25GHz... that's pathetic!"

[ThisGuy]

[Apple Pro Underwear]

Originally posted by ThisGuy:
image snip

it's funny because Apple consistently delivers something different if not useful nearly everytime out since 97

useful to mac users atleast

[Buckaroo]

Originally posted by gumby5647:
actually, I'm kinda peeved that the iPod Shuffle is USB 2.0 only.

Seriously, why couldn't they have put a 4 pin firewire port on there? Isn't that a smaller port anyways?

I have a perfectly good 600Mhz iMac G3 with TWO perfectly good firewire ports....but no USB 2.0

no iPod Shuffle for me

You can plug it into a USB 1.0 port.

[OAW]

Forgot to mention this before .....


No Safari 1.3!

OAW

[shabbasuraj]

no multi button schroll wheel 'Apple branded' bluetooth mouse.

sux.

[lavar78]

Originally posted by itistoday:
damn you for getting my hopes up! I actually clicked that link...

Sorry. Didn't you see the wink?

[shabbasuraj]

Originally posted by ThisGuy:

Dumb.

[ThinkInsane]

My only 'whine point' would be no upgrade price for iLife. I'm not sure how happy I will be if iLife turns out to be a $80 subscription.

[PurpleGiant]

Originally posted by ThinkInsane:
My only 'whine point' would be no upgrade price for iLife. I'm not sure how happy I will be if iLife turns out to be a $80 subscription.

Especially if the trend of consistent updates keep up:

iLife: $80
iWork: $80
Quicktime Pro: $30
.Mac: $100
OS X: $120
------

$410 every 12-18 months for software. An iLife/iWork bundle would be nice. Both for $120 or something.

[maxintosh]

My only complaint is that the only part of iLife I really care about upgrading is iPhoto, and that's a pretty steep price to pay.

I also think they should have announced Aluminum 15" and 17" LCD displays, as their low-end displays are severely lacking.

I'm curious to see how well the Mac mini does. It is certainly a beautiful device but the lack of a keyboard and mouse confuses me a little bit, and might put off first-time Mac buyers. (A lot of PCs still don't use USB keyboards.)

Other than that, the announcements were right on the mark. The iPod Shuffle is a total bargain. It's priced around the same amount as a decent flash drive of similar capacity, plus you get Apple beauty and music to boot.

I'm picking up a 1 GB iPod Shuffle to complement my 40 GB. I think it will be fantastic for the gym and short excursions out on the town where carring my $400 iPod makes me nervous or is cumbersome. The new iTunes features (AutoFill, data/music ratio, and automatic scaling-down of songs to 128 kbps AAC) are brilliant. The only thing I worry about is that my 4G iPod might start to collect dust...

[milhous]

is it safe to say that new powerbooks will come out during some press event in the next 2-3 months and that pro tower updates will be released at the developers conference in the summer?

that's my take on it thus far. i really wished the "one more thing..." was the powerbook updates. but i guess i'll stick with getting a new iBook for now.

[DeathMan]

I don't get what on this green earth made any of you think that G5 powerbooks were ready.

I'm not really happy that the price of iLife has gone up, but I'm toying with the idea of waiting till Tiger is shipping, and picking up Mac mini. With iLife, Tiger, and Quicken (going to get one of these days), it pushes the cost of the Mac down to like $250. Not too shabby.

I also hope that the RAM is easily upgradeable.

And what's all this complaining about core image? You're wanting to use this thing with Motion? I think you've got the wrong box. Its going to run stuff fine. A PC priced this low would have integrated graphics. Good luck running longhorn on that.

[badidea]

Originally posted by DeathMan:
... but I'm toying with the idea of waiting till Tiger is shipping, and picking up Mac mini. With iLife, Tiger, and Quicken (going to get one of these days), it pushes the cost of the Mac down to like $250. Not too shabby.

That's exactly what I am going to do! The mini is the perfect living room computer for movies and music and then I can ban my ****ing loud Quicksilver - I won't get anything faster though but if you're not a hardcore gamer you don't need anything faster anyway!

[badidea]

Wait, too fast!

Summary

� 1GB DDR333 SDRAM - 1 DIMM
� 80GB Ultra ATA drive
� SuperDrive
� AirPort Extreme Card
� Wireless Keyboard & Mouse Set
� 56K v.92 Modem
� Mac OS X - U.S. English
� 1.42GHz PowerPC G4
Estimated Ship:
Deliver by Jan 22nd

Free Shipping

Subtotal $1,302.00

$1,302.00 without S-Video and digital audio???
NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[davidflas]

I love the Mac Mini...but I wish the airport extreme card was a user installable Still, I know several people for whom this would be a perfect computer.

[Goldfinger]

I got one: I wanted Autofill to work with my iPod mini. I got 45GB library so that could come in handy for me.

And the Mac mini really should have had a keyboard and mouse.

And I think my PowerBook warned me yesterday to not buy one of these new Mac minis: he fried the powersupply. Bought a new one this morning. �80 for frickin' powerbrick.

[Apple Pro Underwear]

Originally posted by badidea:
Wait, too fast!

Summary

� 1GB DDR333 SDRAM - 1 DIMM
� 80GB Ultra ATA drive
� SuperDrive
� AirPort Extreme Card
� Wireless Keyboard & Mouse Set
� 56K v.92 Modem
� Mac OS X - U.S. English
� 1.42GHz PowerPC G4
Estimated Ship:
Deliver by Jan 22nd

Free Shipping

Subtotal $1,302.00

$1,302.00 without S-Video and digital audio???
NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

arse head, common sense

if you need a computer that fast, get a powermac or atleast a powerbook starting at 1,500.

[badidea]

Originally posted by Apple Pro Underwear:
arse head, common sense

if you need a computer that fast, get a powermac or atleast a powerbook starting at 1,500.

What are you talking about? 1.42GHz is too fast??

[chris v]

Originally posted by badidea:
Wait, too fast!

Summary

� 1GB DDR333 SDRAM - 1 DIMM
� 80GB Ultra ATA drive
� SuperDrive
� AirPort Extreme Card
� Wireless Keyboard & Mouse Set
� 56K v.92 Modem
� Mac OS X - U.S. English
� 1.42GHz PowerPC G4
Estimated Ship:
Deliver by Jan 22nd

Free Shipping

Subtotal $1,302.00

$1,302.00 without S-Video and digital audio???
NO WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Single 1.8 Tower, similarly specced:

� 1GB DDR400 SDRAM (PC3200) - 2x512
� 80GB Serial ATA - 7200rpm
� Nvidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra w/64MB DDR SDRAM
� AirPort Extreme Card
� Bluetooth Module
� 56k V.92 modem.
� 8x Super Drive (DVD-R/CD-RW)
� Bluetooth Module + Apple Wireless Keyboard & Mouse - Western Spanish
� Mac OS X - U.S. English

Free Shipping


Subtotal $1,952.00

People will look at that $650.00 difference, and it will count for something.

[Captain Obvious]

I have one.

The iPod Shuffle's dock. It is not a proprietary interface like the other iPod docks. It is just a USB cable glued into a hunk of plastic.
Yet it is $30? That is a huge ripoff, cut that price down to $19.95 and still make a nice profit.

http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/accessories.html

[typoon]

I don't get what the complaint about "no mouse and keyboard." I Everytime you buy a new Mac you get a Keyboard and mouse. I've got about 3 USB Mac Keyboards at home from various different newer generation Macs. Why would I need another with the Mac mini? also this whole gripe about a 2 button Mac mouse. GET OVER IT! Apple will probably NEVER come out with it because they don't view it as necessary. Then again I never thought they would come out with a 499 Mac so what do I know. I find that unless you are power user you DON'T need a 2 button mouse. From doing tech support I know too many windows users who get confused when the mouse has more than one button. When you tell them to double click the right click. When you tell them to double left click they still right click. When you tell them to right click the left click. For the general home user the multi button mouse it too confusing. That is why I doubt that Apple will come out with a 2 button mouse. Like I said, I never thought they would come out with a 499 Mac so what do I know. They might surprise us all.

[Goldfinger]

Originally posted by typoon:
I don't get what the complaint about "no mouse and keyboard." I Everytime you buy a new Mac you get a Keyboard and mouse. I've got about 3 USB Mac Keyboards at home from various different newer generation Macs. Why would I need another with the Mac mini? also this whole gripe about a 2 button Mac mouse. GET OVER IT! Apple will probably NEVER come out with it because they don't view it as necessary. Then again I never thought they would come out with a 499 Mac so what do I know. I find that unless you are power user you DON'T need a 2 button mouse. From doing tech support I know too many windows users who get confused when the mouse has more than one button. When you tell them to double click the right click. When you tell them to double left click they still right click. When you tell them to right click the left click. For the general home user the multi button mouse it too confusing. That is why I doubt that Apple will come out with a 2 button mouse. Like I said, I never thought they would come out with a 499 Mac so what do I know. They might surprise us all.

Yes, YOU as a Mac user has these USB keyboards. Switchers are the ones that are going to have to buy new keyboards and mice. I know 0 people who have a USB keyboard on their PC (except those with wireless keyboards that have a USB dongle).

And I don't have an excess of keyboards either. When I sell a mac I sell it with the keyboard ya know.

[typoon]

Originally posted by Goldfinger:
Yes, YOU as a Mac user has these USB keyboards. Switchers are the ones that are going to have to buy new keyboards and mice. I know 0 people who have a USB keyboard on their PC (except those with wireless keyboards that have a USB dongle).

And I don't have an excess of keyboards either. When I sell a mac I sell it with the keyboard ya know.

True but according to Apple you can plug in just about ANY USB keyboroard or wireless keyboard with USB Dongle into this thing. how much is a USB Keyboard and mouse? Considering you can use any USB Keyboard into it I don't see it as a big issue. Also if anyone has bought a new keyboard recently many of them come with the USB adapter for it.

[Shaddim]

Originally posted by Goldfinger:
Yes, YOU as a Mac user has these USB keyboards. Switchers are the ones that are going to have to buy new keyboards and mice. I know 0 people who have a USB keyboard on their PC (except those with wireless keyboards that have a USB dongle).

And I don't have an excess of keyboards either. When I sell a mac I sell it with the keyboard ya know.

big deal, Logitech makes a $40 KB/mouse combo that works perfectly. Personally, I'd rather have it over the Apple set.

[turtle777]

Originally posted by PurpleGiant:
Especially if the trend of consistent updates keep up:

iLife: $80
iWork: $80
Quicktime Pro: $30
.Mac: $100
OS X: $120
------

$410 every 12-18 months for software. An iLife/iWork bundle would be nice. Both for $120 or something.

Instead of the iLife, iWork and OS X upgare ($ 280), you could buy an Mac mini for $ 500.
Granted that (hopefully) iWork will be bundled in the future.

-t

[SomeToast]

Originally posted by ThisGuy:
[Apple iProduct]

And of course, the rebuttal: Apple Haters Unite!

<onTopic>

The overlaid titles for the video of the keynote finally no longer use the horrific "pseudo OS X 10.2" window titlebars as a theme.

In Jobs' Keynote presentation file, the word "Demo" displayed on screen is now in a jarring, hideous script font.

(I know, I know, but it's the little things...)

[Sherwin]

Aside from the silver bits, I'm a bit miffed that I'm going to have to buy Keynote (which I will never, ever use/need) to get Pages (which looks kind of interesting/useful).

[Usual Suspects]

first, i think apple did a great job with all the new releases!
but,

1. apple should have ditched the eMac for an iMac mini...
that name would have been better for the entry-level consumer mac (G4) vs. the more powerful consumer iMac (G5).
specs are ok, size and pricetag are great!
there should have been an option to buy a matching keyboard, mouse and 15" lcd display for an extra $300 in order to replace the eMac.

2. apple should have upgraded their powerbooks BEFORE MWSF!
where's the power in the current powerbooks? i'm not asking for a G5 (would be great though), but a little bump in GHz, bigger and - most of all - faster HD, more RAM to start with, SuperDrive as a standard... it would differentiate the powerbook from an ibook or a mac mini, and live up to it's pricetag!
maybe they'll do it in a week or so, but it's to late... with all the attention drawn to the apple store, the damage is done: the powerbook looks ridiculously expensive for what you get!

that's all folks; apart from these two points, i'm a happy macfanatic!

[itai195]

Originally posted by turtle777:
Instead of the iLife, iWork and OS X upgare ($ 280), you could buy an Mac mini for $ 500.
Granted that (hopefully) iWork will be bundled in the future.

-t

I'd say 10.4 is the only upgrade there that's really 'required.' You can also spend $350 every 1.5 years to upgrade Office. Personally, I'm not buying iLife 05, even though I still think it's a great deal. I don't use iPhoto anymore, and I've hardly ever used iMovie or iDVD.