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Michael_Jackson · May 28, 2003, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by brien:
OMG! Nice work swiz. Lovin every inch of it.

Please, brien, this is the Future, and we use metric units.

tikki · May 28, 2003, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by Michael_Jackson:
Please, brien, this is the Future, and we use metric units.

Aren't you supposed to be in bankruptcy court?

Adam Betts · May 28, 2003, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by Michael_Jackson:
Please, brien, this is the Future, and we use metric units.

Please, Michael_Jackson, this is the computer graphic, and we use pixel.

Michael_Jackson · May 28, 2003, 06:34 PM

bankruptcy court?

edit: no, that's a few weeks from now

your mom

Sage · May 28, 2003, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by swiz:
Yes the radios and checks will be recessed.

Yays.

Glad the scrolls are liked by most, I think those who arent too sure about them will like them when they use them. I still plan to make some rounded version in this style to test.

I've given it more thought, and I do like them a lot now... I actually just realized that there are many more square elements than circular elements in this theme!

swiz · May 28, 2003, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by a holck:
Lovely theme!

I think the resize widget needs a new recessed look, something more organic than it is now...

Great suggestion, I actually hadnt even thought about it till now. Expect it

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TheIceMan · May 29, 2003, 01:25 AM

swiz:

Oooohhhhhh. I like.

swiz · May 29, 2003, 01:51 AM

Progress report-
The radios and check boxes are next on the list.

Question-
Should the push buttons and popup buttons follow the same style? If so which style or a hybrid of the two?

DigitalEl · May 29, 2003, 04:03 AM

IMHO the push buttons and popups should both be rectangular, like those sweet-lookin' scrollbars.

Swiz, how do you feel about adding some transparency to the menu?

Also unsure about the white outline look to the Apple Menu.

(And please forgive if this has come up already... Didn't feel like reviewing this longish thread, even though I've been following it since the beginning).

Bottom line is, you gotta do what you think is best. It's your theme and it's shaping up to be one of the best ever. Max's Brushed update, now this. Wow!

Kate · May 29, 2003, 06:10 AM

I would like to have the push button and pop up button the same way in terms of shading. I propose a compromise between the current different shades.

Make them as dark as the scroll bar is.

I'm unsure about the shape. The rounded shape does well for the push button and the more rectangular style is good for the pop up button, but I admit to have them side by side makes them look unmatched. I think if they were shaded with the same grey it would be better.

BTW The scroll arrow buttons need a bit more contrast to match the other widgets IMHO. I think a "sunken" apple in the menu would match the rest of your theme better.

P.S.

I got a question besides your theme:I have always problems to find a way to make the shading of my widgets fit the mask. For instance I get always black or white pixels where a subtle shade should be. It always looks like artifacts. When I try to do those subtle shades in PS it works, but when I paste them into the resource I have to manually fix the "broken" pixels. Obviously you have no suchlike errors when designing your themes. I wonder what way you're doing this conveniently?

fisherKing · May 29, 2003, 07:32 AM

transparent menus...transparent menus...

(just a thought)

redboy · May 29, 2003, 07:50 AM

I think the push button should be squared off, makes it look more consistent. I can't believe I'm getting this exited about a theme

Giano · May 29, 2003, 08:21 AM

wow

i think i will switch from milk after many months

swiz · May 29, 2003, 08:46 AM

Ok here is what I came up with and Im really pleased with it.

DigitalEl · May 29, 2003, 08:48 AM

I'm about to Santorum* all over my keyboard.

Please make our (sad) lives and release this today!

*Link not appropriate for all ages or the easily offended.

jessejlt · May 29, 2003, 08:55 AM

Oh man that looks absolutely tasty.
Gimme gimme gimme

jesse ;-)

Kate · May 29, 2003, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by swiz:
Ok here is what I came up with and Im really pleased with it.

Looks good so far.

Hm, now you have altered the push button to a more rectangular shape I must say the round window widgets look a bit as if they were out of tune.I think it would help to make the toolbar button more rounded.

Maybe more like this:

gdiddy · May 29, 2003, 10:06 AM

....waiting!

Looking really nice! Keep up the great work!

tikki · May 29, 2003, 10:20 AM

swiz, are you going to have a variant that has rounded widgets as opposed to the square ones?

Adam Betts · May 29, 2003, 11:37 AM

Originally posted by tikki:
swiz, are you going to have a variant that has rounded widgets as opposed to the square ones?

Yeah, I'd like a rounded widgets variant too. Squared widgets looks good but definitely not my type.

NetworkShadow · May 29, 2003, 01:47 PM

I was thinking that the pop-ups were too rectangular and didn't match the buttons. The rectangular buttons look nice.
I'd also vote for transparent menus.

smeger · May 29, 2003, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by Kate:
I got a question besides your theme:I have always problems to find a way to make the shading of my widgets fit the mask. For instance I get always black or white pixels where a subtle shade should be. It always looks like artifacts. When I try to do those subtle shades in PS it works, but when I paste them into the resource I have to manually fix the "broken" pixels. Obviously you have no suchlike errors when designing your themes. I wonder what way you're doing this conveniently?

This sounds like a premultiplication problem. Check out ImagePreUnMultiplier.

TheIceMan · May 29, 2003, 07:28 PM

swiz:
I think the rectangular buttons look cool. It's different from all the other round or oval ones in the other themes. I like it because it seems to have more of a consistency to it, especially at the bottom where the corners are square. Fantastic job. Can't wait to use it! Also, I like the new look of the progress bars.

Kate · May 30, 2003, 05:13 AM

Originally posted by smeger:
This sounds like a premultiplication problem. Check out ImagePreUnMultiplier.

Thanks smeger, I'll try it. These funky pixels did cost me ages of dev time. I owe you!

swiz · May 31, 2003, 09:51 AM

Okay, here's what I meant by the menu stuff playing off the green progress bars.

THis shot shows the Blue selection in general system prefs on top with the graphite set below, (I know theStudio Pro look is more graphite than blue but Im assuming most people dont switch this setting and whatnot) the second two images are the same but they have menu transparency as has been requested. So now you folks tell me which way to go, menu transparency or nay.

tikki · May 31, 2003, 09:55 AM

I really really really like the green. Release :-)

p.h..i...l.... · May 31, 2003, 10:00 AM

Originally posted by swiz:
So now you folks tell me which way to go, menu transparency or nay.

i vote for no transparency.

Stuphalina · May 31, 2003, 10:24 AM

Transparency!

Mac Guru · May 31, 2003, 10:40 AM

Transparency, and is is it me or did you say Blue was Graphite and Graphite was Green?

I would think it would be the other way arond.

am I mistaken?

Mac Guru

redboy · May 31, 2003, 10:41 AM

transparency transparency transparency

fisherKing · May 31, 2003, 11:37 AM

transparencytransparencyetc

(see earlier post)

Brien · May 31, 2003, 11:42 AM

transparency

Sage · May 31, 2003, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by Mac Guru:
Transparency, and is is it me or did you say Blue was Graphite and Graphite was Green?

I would think it would be the other way arond.

am I mistaken?

No, you're right in what he said. However, the reason he's doing it is because he knows that most people just use "Blue", and he wants the graphite version to be the default version... otherwise, the first time people use it, they would see a green version, and might not know why!

I vote for transparency, but a little more opaque than what's in the screenshots.

I'm really looking forward to this.

Adam Betts · May 31, 2003, 12:24 PM

Transparency all the way. Both Graphite and Green is looking so GOOD!

Simon X · May 31, 2003, 01:15 PM

I vote for transparency too, and like Sage, a little more opaque than what's in the screenshots.

This is looking very sweet. Since 10.2 I haven't used any themes, but I'll be making an exception with this one.

ubba · May 31, 2003, 01:16 PM

Transparency

Graphite & Green

.....
jo

Mac Guru · May 31, 2003, 01:52 PM

Most people use Blue? How odd

zazou · May 31, 2003, 02:00 PM

Very Nice!

Green may be a tad bright for me. Take it down a bit and you have a winner all around.

Z

wigglywoo · May 31, 2003, 02:24 PM

I was wondering if the green progress bars could be changed to match the theme colors, instead of making the menu highlight to match the progress bars.

swiz · May 31, 2003, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by wigglywoo:
I was wondering if the green progress bars could be changed to match the theme colors, instead of making the menu highlight to match the progress bars.

Im pretty much doing this-
When "Blue" is selected in General Prefs the progress bars, menu stuff and a few other various things will be graphite accented and when "Graphite" is selected green will be used instead. I know it sounds odd.
Actually
I will include the General Prefs component in the theme so it will offer the selection of either "Graphite" or "Green" to avoid this confusion. Dont worry, the included Aqua Restore will include the original Aqua setting to fix this back to normal.

So I will be taking some of the transparency down a bit but including it. And the process continues. Thanks for all your suggestions.

wigglywoo · May 31, 2003, 05:01 PM

Im pretty much doing this-
When "Blue" is selected in General Prefs the progress bars, menu stuff and a few other various things will be graphite accented and when "Graphite" is selected green will be used instead. I know it sounds odd.

Cool thanks Swiz

TheIceMan · May 31, 2003, 09:33 PM

I guess I'm in the minority because I prefer no transparency.

unlinear · May 31, 2003, 09:56 PM

wow.

amazing.

is that green brighter than the original progress bars, though? i thought it was a little bit less saturated...

NetworkShadow · May 31, 2003, 10:37 PM

looking sweet! What's the ETA on it?

swiz · May 31, 2003, 10:41 PM

I will double and triple check the green, cause I will admit right now that as is, it was just done by eye.

ETA= Not much longer

quandarry · 11:13 PM

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anti-sleep · Jun 1, 2003, 01:33 AM

Since when are buttons supposed to be liquid?

Adam Betts · Jun 1, 2003, 02:08 AM

Originally posted by anti-sleep:
Since when are buttons supposed to be liquid?

Since when they got aquafied

quandarry · Jun 1, 2003, 02:47 AM

Originally posted by anti-sleep:
Since when are buttons supposed to be liquid?

huh? what do you think aqua is all about?
color me dumbfounded!