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Jul 19, 2005, 11:08 AM
 
Originally Posted by Cody Dawg
Honestly? You want to know what I think if it had been reversed genders? The man was a teacher of 23 and the girl 14? I would feel EXACTLY the same. In fact, it would be more understandable.

Chicks dig older guys. Especially if the male teacher was equally good-looking. In fact, I bet there are a lot more schoolgirls in short skirts having sex with older teachers and older men than the other way around.
Well I suppose its just that not everyone is as objective as you. But the double-standard is still there.

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:08 AM
 
Originally Posted by Cody Dawg
Honestly? You want to know what I think if it had been reversed genders? The man was a teacher of 23 and the girl 14? I would feel EXACTLY the same. In fact, it would be more understandable.

Chicks dig older guys. Especially if the male teacher was equally good-looking. In fact, I bet there are a lot more schoolgirls in short skirts having sex with older teachers and older men than the other way around.

Hello Cody

The male teacher would still be in prison.

A very sad case.

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:09 AM
 
Originally Posted by Cody Dawg
turtle: There is no double standard.

Your "double standard" that wiskdejak and others claim is a mental fabrication - and I guess it worked because you jumped on it.
BULLSH!T !

So you believe that a boy can't be raped, just because he's horny enough to actually like what happens in that moment ? Whatever. You must be living in Lalaland.

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by Wiskedjak
And if a 23 year old male teacher had sex with a 14 year old girl? Would you still be laughing at these jokes or people saying the man was fulfilling every girls dream or that she wanted it?
That's a good question. And to tell you honestly, I think I would view it a bit different. Simply because there is a REAL biological difference between men and women that goes beyond gender roles.

But again, the deciding factor would be if there was consent between the two, or not.

If there wasn't, then in BOTH cases I would believe that there was something really wrong and matters would have to be handed over to the justice system.

If there was consent, it would still be kind of hard to swallow (no pun intended), since there really isn't any consent between a minor (legally speaking) and an adult. But, afaic, especially in the case in this thread I wouldn't have too much of a problem with it.

Almost the same would go for a 14 year old girl who was totally in love with a 23 year old teacher, and maybe even led him on.

Maybe not the wisest choice. But our society has parameters that do not always coincide with people's natural instincts.
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Jul 19, 2005, 11:18 AM
 


Who said he was RAPED?!? Did I miss that part of the article?

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:22 AM
 
Originally Posted by RAILhead
[img]Who said he was RAPED?!? Did I miss that part of the article?
If you replied to my post:

I didn't mean that case in specific, but refering to a general tendency in this forum looking back over the past months and several threads of that kind. There is a distinct difference in opinion about young boys having (to have) sex with an adult female than vice versa.

This is what I refer to as the double standard. It is assuming that because boys in a certain age group would like to have sex with any- and everything, it is not as bad for an adult female to have sex with them than those poor young girls that can not defend themselves.

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:24 AM
 
Originally Posted by RAILhead

Who said he was RAPED?!? Did I miss that part of the article?

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:27 AM
 
Originally Posted by Warung
But again, the deciding factor would be, if there was consent between the two, or not.
See above.

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:34 AM
 
Originally Posted by Wiskedjak
See above.

"A minor, in the eye of the law, cannot consent to sex."
Yes, and like I said, that is a very tough question. It becomes a matter of where you draw the line. A very personal endeavour. After all, depending on the country or the state, having sex with somebody would be a criminal offense if they were 15 years and 365 days old.

For me, it would be based on the individual case. And still, it wouldn't be the wisest thing to do. Especially for the teacher...

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:37 AM
 
Originally Posted by Warung
For me, it would be based on the individual case. And still, it wouldn't be the wisest thing to do. Especially for the teacher...
Perhaps, but the law can't deal with such an issue on a case-by-case and subjective basis. Then, the most common defence will be "well, she seemed old enough to me".

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:38 AM
 
Originally Posted by Mastrap
A minor, in the eye of the law, cannot consent to sex.
Malarky. While that's true, the US is full of raped kids then, seeing as how all kinds of minors are having sex. Half the less than 17 YO population has been "raped" then, since they're so young they can't consent.

She didn't rape him -- she wanted to have sex with him and he wanted it, too.

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:40 AM
 
Originally Posted by RAILhead
and he wanted it, too.
So you think that the (wet)dreams and wishes of a horny 14 year old are grounds enough to establish if something is ok or not ?
Well then, I guess many other crimes and mischiefs should be excused and readily dismissed...

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:43 AM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777
So you think that the (wet)dreams and wishes of a horny 14 year old are grounds enough to establish if something is ok or not ?
Well then, I guess many other crimes and mischiefs should be excused and readily dismissed...

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I don't recall saying that? Where did I utter those words?

Rather, I simply stated that this 14YO was *not* forced -- aka raped -- by his teacher. I didn't condone it, I didn't say it was "okay" -- I said he wasn't raped.

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:44 AM
 
Originally Posted by Wiskedjak
And, what does that mean for the Kiddie Porn industry?
I dunno, but I really can't imagine that there is that much "consent" involved there. Plus, having a kid act in a porn movie is still something quite different from what's going on here.

Society has it's standards, - which is good, and I have my personal opinion about it (which isn't as black and white as society/the legal system wants/needs it to be). I'll just leave it at that.

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:44 AM
 
Originally Posted by RAILhead
I don't recall saying that? Where did I utter those words?
I'm not only speaking to you. This is a public forum, you know
I am stating an opinion based on many posts in this thread.

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:45 AM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777
I'm not only speaking to you. This is a public forum, you know
I am stating an opinion based on many posts in this thread.

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I assumed you were since you quoted me.

NOW STOP RAPING MY POSTS DADGUMMIT!!
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Jul 19, 2005, 11:46 AM
 
Originally Posted by RAILhead
Rather, I simply stated that this 14YO was *not* forced --
But, perhaps he was coerced. The reason statutory rape laws exist is because children don't need to be forced since they can be easily manipulated into concent by authority figures.
     
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Jul 19, 2005, 11:51 AM
 
Originally Posted by Wiskedjak
But, perhaps he was coerced. The reason statutory rape laws exist is because children don't need to be forced since they can be easily manipulated into concent by authority figures.
Oh good lord.

Were you never a 14 yo boy? I remember one time a friend and I, at about that age, were sitting on our bikes at an intersection when these 2 chicks roll up in a car. One blows a kiss and the other does her finger in a "come here" motion and the slowly drive off.

The only reason we didn't follow them was because we didn't take them seriously.

That wasn't coercion, that was Young Male Human Hormones.
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Jul 19, 2005, 11:52 AM
 
Originally Posted by RAILhead
That wasn't coercion, that was Young Male Human Hormones.
Well guess WHY it sometimes even doesn't take a lot of coercion...

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:52 AM
 
Originally Posted by Wiskedjak
But, perhaps he was coerced.
Yes, and perhaps he initiated it. That's just the point. We don't know.

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Jul 19, 2005, 11:53 AM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777
Well guess WHY it sometimes even doesn't take a lot of coercion...

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RIGHT! It doesn't take ANYTHING, and thus, IMHO, one can't cry [email protected]!!11!! after the fact.

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Jul 19, 2005, 12:11 PM
 
Originally Posted by Cody Dawg
Honestly? You want to know what I think if it had been reversed genders? The man was a teacher of 23 and the girl 14? I would feel EXACTLY the same. In fact, it would be more understandable.

Chicks dig older guys. Especially if the male teacher was equally good-looking. In fact, I bet there are a lot more schoolgirls in short skirts having sex with older teachers and older men than the other way around.
Fact 1: Many 14 year old girls aren't as innocent as you think they are (as in, already sexually active in some way).

Fact 2: A teenage boy thinks 14 year old girls look good. This tends not to change when that boy becomes a man (The young girls don't stop looking good).

Fact 3: Most men restrain themselves from indulging with underage girls. The reasons being they're either:
A. Married.
B. The immaturity factor annoys them.
C. The girl's father might own a shotgun
D. They don't want to go to prison and be fux0red in the arse.

I might also add that for most of human history, 14 year old girls were routinely marrying/shacking up with much older men.

What was I trying to say with this post? I'm just confusing myself so I'll stop now.
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Jul 19, 2005, 12:27 PM
 


I was thinking, "Wait a minute! He's supporting my point!"

     
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Jul 19, 2005, 12:34 PM
 
Here's my angle as a high school teacher:

Never have sex with your students.

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Jul 19, 2005, 01:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777
Freakin' double standard. It's rampant here in the Lounge...
There is no double standard. In Germany a 23 year old can legally have sex with a 14 year old (except when the older one is taking care of the younger). The gender of both is irrelevant.
     
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Jul 19, 2005, 01:06 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777
So you believe that a boy can't be raped, just because he's horny enough to actually like what happens in that moment ? Whatever. You must be living in Lalaland.
A boy can be raped, but if he is horny enough to actually like what happens, then that's not rape. It might be abuse depending on age and status of those involved, but it's not rape.
     
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Jul 19, 2005, 01:26 PM
 


Mary Lee Worley hit it, too:

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- A 36-year-old mother was arrested Monday for allegedly having consensual sex with a friend of her son.

According to the police report, Mary Lee Worley admitted to the victim's father that she had sex with the 15-year-old boy in her home while he was spending the night with her son sometime last month. The victim told his youth pastor about the incident, and the youth pastor then confronted Worley about it.
Worley is charged with lewd and lascivious acts with a minor. She is currently out on bond.
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Jul 19, 2005, 01:39 PM
 
Originally Posted by TETENAL
A boy can be raped, but if he is horny enough to actually like what happens, then that's not rape. It might be abuse depending on age and status of those involved, but it's not rape.
Agreed, 100%.
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Jul 19, 2005, 01:50 PM
 
As an adult woman, the idea of sleeping with a boy makes me nauseous.

Secondly, WHY would any woman want to have sexual relations with some kid? What possibly can be gratifying or satisfying about that? Sex with real live experienced men is MUCH better by far. (Well, now it's with my husband who is )

Maybe that chick (the teacher) IS crazy, now that I think about it?

     
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Jul 19, 2005, 01:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by Warung
Yes, and perhaps he initiated it. That's just the point. We don't know.
And, if that's the case, as the adult she should have been mature enough to know the child wasn't mature enough to make that decision and as the teacher she should have been professional enough to know that relationships with any students (of legal age or not) is inappropriate
     
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Jul 19, 2005, 02:02 PM
 
Originally Posted by Wiskedjak
And, if that's the case, as the adult she should have been mature enough to know the child wasn't mature enough to make that decision and as the teacher she should have been professional enough to know that relationships with any students (of legal age or not) is inappropriate
Yes, but it would still be different than being forced into something.

And from this:

When LaFave later made a pit stop, the affidavit reads, the student exclaimed to his cousin: "It was awesome."
...it really doesn't sound like it.

Though generally speaking, you're right of course.

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Jul 19, 2005, 02:38 PM
 
Don't undermind the deviousness of a teenage boy... espescially one at school with all his friends so when things get out of hand they blow sky-high in to a giant mushroom cloud that everybody can see for miles. Who knows what really happened at this point...

A teacher should not have sex with a student, period... that's taking sex ed to a new level.
     
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Originally Posted by Warung
d) And this is the most IMPORTANT part, and where your comparison really turns to crap, the teacher didn't do anything (afaik) to coerse sex from the kid. For all we know, the boy might have even initiated it.
your points are irrelevant to the issue at hand: a person in a position of authority used it to have sex with a minor. who started the relationship does not matter, nor does any pleasure he or she got out of the arrangement.

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What if it's a 36 year old Catholic priest, and a 14 year old boy? And the boy wants it? Any objections?
     
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Mithras: What does THAT have to do with ANYTHING remotely related to THIS topic?





Weird thoughts! Have some personal experience or something? (Hope not!)
     
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It's about determining the standard for what is rape.
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Originally Posted by Mithras
What if it's a 36 year old Catholic priest, and a 14 year old boy? And the boy wants it? Any objections?
I don't think anyone's saying it's (the teacher/boy) right. I think most people here, in all seriousness, object to it. Thus, your attempt at bringing in Priest/boy scenarios is moot.

The point most people are making is that the kid WAS NOT raped, and if the boy in your scenario "wanted it," then he wasn't raped, either.

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Originally Posted by Cody Dawg
Mithras: What does THAT have to do with ANYTHING remotely related to THIS topic?





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What do you mean? We changed the gender of one of the parties, and the occupation. That's all. The essential setup is identical: older authority figure in a "consensual" sexual relationship with a minor. Your smilies betray you, Cody.

maury - yeah, i recognize that most of us object in some way to the situation. I'd push you on your concept of the word "rape" though -- this is why we have the phrase "statutory rape", right? To address the concern that youths under the age of consent simply aren't capable of giving proper sexual consent. Because, as you discuss, fourteen year old boys have raging hormones (god knows i did), and don't have the cognitive or emotional maturity to make what is a choice with potentially lifelong consequences.
     
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Originally Posted by Ghoser777
Here's my angle as a high school teacher:

Never have sex with your students.

That is all.
     
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Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -
Fulfilling every 14-year old boy's dream. This girl is a hero, not a criminal!

Wow rapists are hero's woo hoo!!...
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theres definitely some crazy there.

I'd bang the hell out of that crazy bitch.

     
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Originally Posted by stevesnj
Wow rapists are hero's woo hoo!!...
Duude, she can rape me anytime.
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Originally Posted by TETENAL
A boy can be raped, but if he is horny enough to actually like what happens, then that's not rape. It might be abuse depending on age and status of those involved, but it's not rape.
Well now we will have to put this one on the "double-standards test." If a chick being raped is loving it... was she raped? Hmm. Somehow I think that even if she did enjoy it, and that was the matter that decided what was rape, she would say it was the most terrible thing in the world, so she could settle with some $$. Reversing it back again, the boy would probably do the same. But heres where the double standard test really comes in: you think a jury is more likely to believe a girl saying it was a terrible thing, or a guy saying that? Obviously they're not going to believe a boy saying that (whether he's lying or not) becase all males are pervs, and all they care about is sex, so its just kind of "understood" that he enjoyed it. But if its a girl? hmm. She could have enjoyed it too. But nobody would ever know, because girls are all perfectly mature about it, and none of them are slutty, horny, what have you, at all.

2x standard... still there.

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Jul 19, 2005, 05:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by stevesnj
Wow rapists are hero's woo hoo!!...
Like this was anything like a rape.

And as for minors cannot consent to sex in the eyes of the law. Well, that's just one of the many areas where law and reality does not agree.

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Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -
Like this was anything like a rape.

And as for minors cannot consent to sex in the eyes of the law. Well, that's just one of the many areas where law and reality does not agree.
Oh they can consent. But they are easily taken advantage of.

Us as adults should know better. Some choose to do what they want regardless, and then throw fits when they are expected to be responsible for their actions like the "lady" in this story.

I don't feel sorry for either party. Not one bit.
     
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Jul 19, 2005, 05:25 PM
 
Originally Posted by stevesnj
Wow rapists are hero's woo hoo!!...

I don't care what the law is, an older woman cannot rape a young man. Men can rape other men, and can rape women.
     
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Jul 19, 2005, 05:27 PM
 
They are talking about statutory rape. An older woman can indeed (statutory) rape a minor.
     
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Jul 19, 2005, 05:36 PM
 
Originally Posted by His Dudeness
I don't care what the law is, an older woman cannot rape a young man. Men can rape other men, and can rape women.
Why?
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Jul 19, 2005, 05:52 PM
 
Any time someone has sex with another person who has not consented, or is not legally able to consent the act is rape. If the lack of consent is that the other person is not old enough in the eyes of the law to give consent, the crime is statutory rape. Yes, by the legal definition there are a lot of statutory rapists-any kid that's had sex with his/her 15 year old girl/boy friend fits the bill in most jurisdictions.

Whether or not the kid in question "enjoyed" the experience is irrelevant. What matters is that there was no legal consent, so the act was statutory rape by definition.

Further, that kid is going to be one screwed up adult unless he gets some exceptionally good psychological care for a long, long period of time. How do you think a 14 year old would develop if he's just noticed that there's a use for those "dangly bits" of his, and whammo! His babe of a teacher gives him one-on-one tutoring in sex ed? I think he'd believe he was immensely irresistable, and probably would try to convince others that his belief was correct-forcefully at times.

A separate but related issue is that she, as a teacher, violated a very important trust that both the school and all the parents of students at that school placed in her. In many states violating that trust is a crime in itself.

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