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Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by qnxde

Of course it was forced, short of using javascript tricks to prevent window closure.

Imma gonna show you a trick qnxde. And it will make you NEVER see these again.

http://www.macupdate.com/search.php?...osx&order=date

Bookmark that. And let you be never offended again!

MacUpdate is the same every day, you go there expecting to see a useful list of what's been update (hence the url) and it's rather a jarring shock when you get a black and white page of religious mumbo-jumbo, requiring you to scroll down, read through the text and locate the small link to "continue to macupdate" - it's like trying to find the free player on real's page. Yes, it is their site and they can put ****** up there for all i care but saying you weren't forced to read it is as valid as "OUR LAWYERS HAVE SAID WE REQUIRE A WARNING SO IF YOU ARE UNDER 18 OR FIND THIS PICTURE OFFENSIVE PLEASE DON'T LOOK AT IT".

How silly. Seriously qn, you have some serious issues with Christianity you need to deal with.

Athens · Dec 26, 2005, 09:24 AM

what’s funny is im not religious and the site did nothing for me, it was a what the hell?? I didn't even notice the cross until this thread. And now that I noticed it, again its a who cares like whatever... so what. There is a person who is not religious and the anti religious. Stop being Anti Religious, its almost as bad as being Anti Gay

Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

And what exactly does that say about me? Enquiring minds wish to know.

If you believe someone posting a web-page celebrating their beliefs is "weird" I would say it had more to do with your own personal bias. And little to do with them doing anything "weird"

Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Athens

what’s funny is im not religious and the site did nothing for me, it was a what the hell?? I didn't even notice the cross until this thread. And now that I noticed it, again its a who cares like whatever... so what. There is a person who is not religious and the anti religious. Stop being Anti Religious, its almost as bad as being Anti Gay

BING!

I was thinking about that as well. I know lots of non-religious people. Only a few anti-religious.

The funny part about that is, the latter are usually the ones preaching tolerance.

Athens · Dec 26, 2005, 09:31 AM

YAY now I know im not being ignored in this argument

Mastrap · Dec 26, 2005, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

If you believe someone posting a web-page celebrating their beliefs is "weird" I would say it had more to do with your own personal bias. And little to do with them doing anything "weird"

Originally Posted by Mastrap

As it is they just come across, to me, as a bunch of weirdos.

Emphasis added by me. I have every right to feel how I feel.

Originally Posted by Mastrap

Macupdate are entitled to post onto their home page whatever they wish. I am entitled to vote with my feet and not to use the site.

They have every right to post whatever they wish.

Mastrap · Dec 26, 2005, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

BING!
I was thinking about that as well. I know lots of non-religious people. Only a few anti-religious.
The funny part about that is, the latter are usually the ones preaching tolerance.

Prove that to me. You have a habit of making statements like the above where you post personal opinions (nothing wrong with that) and treat them as facts (everything wrong with that).

Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

Emphasis added by me. I have every right to feel how I feel.

Who is arguing if you had the right or not Mastrap? Not I. I just said the fact you DID feel that it was "weird", says more about you, then what they did.

No one is arguing about your right to feel that way. So I don't really understand why you are even trying to make a point about such a thing.

Athens · Dec 26, 2005, 09:35 AM

Personally I think Mastrap and Kevin are weird

Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

Prove that to me. You have a habit of making statements like the above where you post personal opinions (nothing wrong with that) and treat them as facts (everything wrong with that).

Prove what exactly. I've said a few things in there.

As far as the preach tolerance, I've seen qn preach about tolerance and equal rights, and how hate sucks and such. But he indeed came in here and made intolerant hateful posts.

Take SWF for example. He is always preaching tolerance. (For what he believes in anyhow.. seems to be a trend) but doesn't tolerate any opinions but his own.

Originally Posted by Athens

Personally I think Mastrap and Kevin are weird

Oh, I am weird. There is no doubt about that.

qnxde · Dec 26, 2005, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

As far as the preach tolerance, I've seen qn preach about tolerance and equal rights, and how hate sucks and such. But he indeed came in here and made intolerant hateful posts.

Take SWF for example. He is always preaching tolerance. (For what he believes in anyhow.. seems to be a trend) but doesn't tolerate any opinions but his own.

Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 09:38 AM

Not as near as funny as those pics of you in your underwear you posted whilst drunk in here.

Athens · Dec 26, 2005, 09:39 AM

OH where where..... is he hot!

Mastrap · Dec 26, 2005, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Who is arguing if you had the right or not Mastrap? Not I. I just said the fact you DID feel that it was "weird", says more about you, then what they did.
No one is arguing about your right to feel that way. So I don't really understand why you are even trying to make a point about such a thing.

Kevin, the only point I was making is that I was aware that my post was just my personal opinion, nothing more. I think what they did was weird, you think I am biased and that's fine too.

So, whatever.

Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

I think what they did was weird, you think I am biased and that's fine too.

So, whatever.

Ok, so what are you arguing about? You asked me how, I gave you my reason.

Originally Posted by Athens

OH where where..... is he hot!

He took them down.

qnxde · Dec 26, 2005, 09:43 AM

FYI I frequently post pics of myself in underwear (and sometimes without!) while completely sober and scored myself a 9.4 on hotornot.com in the process so stick that in your pipe and smoke it you walking bible. (in the nicest possible way)

Mastrap · Dec 26, 2005, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Prove what exactly. I've said a few things in there.

I told you exactly what I would like you to prove. Here it is again:

Originally Posted by Kevin

BING!
I was thinking about that as well. I know lots of non-religious people. Only a few anti-religious.
The funny part about that is, the latter are usually the ones preaching tolerance.

And here's my challenge to you again: Prove that people who are anti religious are the ones preaching tolerance.

Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by qnxde

FYI I frequently post pics of myself in underwear (and sometimes without!) while completely sober and scored myself a 9.4 on hotornot.com in the process

Oh, I am not dissing on your looks, I was just laughing at the whole situation, and then you deleting them.

so stick that in your pipe and smoke it you walking bible. (in the nicest possible way)

The pictures of you in a pipe and smoking it?

Wouldn't that be harmful?

Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

I told you exactly what I would like you to prove. Here it is again:

You ALSO told me

Originally Posted by Mastrap

And what exactly does that say about me? Enquiring minds wish to know.

Remember? I was just doing what you asked.

Originally Posted by Mastrap

And here's my challenge to you again: Prove that people who are anti religious are the ones preaching tolerance.

Did you not see the post I gave giving two examples in this very forum?

Athens · Dec 26, 2005, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by qnxde

FYI I frequently post pics of myself in underwear (and sometimes without!) while completely sober and scored myself a 9.4 on hotornot.com in the process so stick that in your pipe and smoke it you walking bible. (in the nicest possible way)

if your a 9.4 by all means email me some of both with and with out

Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Athens

if your a 9.4 by all means email me some of both with and with out

Oh he's a purdy one.

Athens · Dec 26, 2005, 09:56 AM

twink? Bear? Muscle man come on come on my interests are peeked... Aussies are hot!

qnxde · Dec 26, 2005, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Oh, I am not dissing on your looks, I was just laughing at the whole situation, and then you deleting them.

The pictures of you in a pipe and smoking it?

Wouldn't that be harmful?

Haha, did I really? that's unlike me (loving attention, obviously)

qnxde · Dec 26, 2005, 09:57 AM

Athens: http://www.dudesnude.com/members/185742/

Athens · Dec 26, 2005, 09:57 AM

post a current pick up now

Athens · Dec 26, 2005, 09:59 AM

Hot!

qnxde · Dec 26, 2005, 10:00 AM

The ones in the green and red are 2 days oldish, they're all within 6 months.

MacNN is easier to pick up in than a cruise bar i'd reckon.

Mastrap · Dec 26, 2005, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Did you not see the post I gave giving two examples in this very forum?

I disagree with both of the examples you provided. And anecdotal evidence from an internet notice board doesn't prove a blanket statement like 'The funny part about that is, the latter are usually the ones preaching tolerance.'

But be that as it may, I think the hookup between Athens and qnxde should provide some much needed entertainment.

Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

I disagree with both of the examples you provided.

Well then I don't know what to tell you.

And anecdotal evidence from an internet notice board doesn't prove a blanket statement like 'The funny part about that is, the latter are usually the ones preaching tolerance.'

Of course I was speaking within the forum. Hence the reason I gave forum examples.

RAILhead · Dec 26, 2005, 10:04 AM

This thread's still up?

Athens · Dec 26, 2005, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by qnxde

The ones in the green and red are 2 days oldish, they're all within 6 months.

MacNN is easier to pick up in than a cruise bar i'd reckon.

oh I wish, if that was the case I would be miss arr nm dont want another banning

Athens · Dec 26, 2005, 10:07 AM

serious, why dont we put the religion aside and all take part in having a gay time

Mastrap · Dec 26, 2005, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Of course I was speaking within the forum.

You were?

Originally Posted by Kevin

I know lots of non-religious people. Only a few anti-religious.
The funny part about that is, the latter are usually the ones preaching tolerance.

Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

You were?

I apologize I worded it poorly. My bad.

qnxde · Dec 26, 2005, 10:16 AM

Merry Christmas, Athens. 5 minutes old.

zizban · Dec 26, 2005, 10:22 AM

My sixteen eyar old daughter just walked in and said your hot. Just so you know.

Kr0nos · Dec 26, 2005, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

I here thought to do such a thing was a well known netiquette.

No, it's neither a "netiquette" nor is is a requirement, if the message doesn't contain any personal or confidential information (or the sender specifically asked that it not be posted anywhere on the web).

Have you gotten your "permission" yet? I would be really interested in what they "replied".

Shaddim · Dec 26, 2005, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by Nick

Well I'd love to, but tooki asked that i consult all the moderators before deleting any accounts.

Nice threat. Now, what were you saying about professionalism?

Try practicing what you preach.

demograph68 · Dec 26, 2005, 10:40 AM

I want to say that I overreacted. MacUpdate can do whatever they want and I want the christians here to know that I respect them. I was just taken by surprise, since I didn't think macupdate would pull that sort of thing. I'm not looking for an argument. Peace.

Mastrap · Dec 26, 2005, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by MacNStein

Nice threat. Now, what were you saying about professionalism?

Try practicing what you preach.

Uh, Nick's comment was a joke?

Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by qnxde

Merry Christmas, Athens. 5 minutes old.

Been smoking some christmas trees this morning?

Shaddim · Dec 26, 2005, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

And what exactly does that say about me? Enquiring minds wish to know.

That you (and many others round here) hide behind a veil of tolerance, until it's something that you don't personally like... however, when that does happen, you're no better than any other small-minded klan member.

Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by Kr0nos

No, it's neither a "netiquette" nor is is a requirement, if the message doesn't contain any personal or confidential information (or the sender specifically asked that it not be posted anywhere on the web).

Well regardless, I am waiting for her permission.

Shaddim · Dec 26, 2005, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

Uh, Nick's comment was a joke?

Really? Like the page by MacUpdate was a joke? Or was it serious? Hell, we don't know.

Seemed pretty threatening to me. Isn't that what we do (just going by your example)? We get threatened by things we don't like and then start making disparaging comments about them?

"Free speech is only free if we like it."

Right?

Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by MacNStein

Like the page by MacUpdate was a joke? Or was it serious? Hell, we don't know.

Well we do know.. atleast I do. It wasn't a joke.

Shaddim · Dec 26, 2005, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Well we do know.. atleast I do. It wasn't a joke.

What I'm saying is, it doesn't matter. MacUpdate should post what they want, without having the girls around here getting their knickers in a knot. Hell, it's not like the Christians here make a scene over Landover (I've even bought things from them before).

Mastrap · Dec 26, 2005, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by MacNStein

Really? Like the page by MacUpdate was a joke? Or was it serious? Hell, we don't know.

Seemed pretty threatening to me. Isn't that what we do (just going by your example)? We get threatened by things we don't like and then start making disparaging comments about them?

"Free speech is only free if we like it."

Right?

1. Macupdate wasn't a joke. It was the expression of the owners religious beliefs. Do I disagree with the way he presented these? Yes, I do. Does he have every right to present them the way he did and not give a damn about my opinions? Of course he does.

2. Nick, in my opinion, made an exasperated joke. I am sure he'll come along soon and give you a heads up one way or the other.

3. There is no free speech on macnn. It's private property, free speech rights do not apply.

Kr0nos · Dec 26, 2005, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Well we do know.. atleast I do.

At least you "claim" you do.

Kevin · Dec 26, 2005, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by Kr0nos

At least you "claim" you do.

Email them yourself Kr0nos. Do it. I dare ya.

Kr0nos · Dec 26, 2005, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Email them yourself Kr0nos. Do it. I dare ya.

Oh I will, - the second you post the reply you got.

Looking at that page, I would actually be surprised if the author is a christian (as it would be more detrimental to his or her cause than beneficial).

It's so damn cheesy and badly done, that I'm actually ashamed I didn't get the joke in the first place.

I really need to lighten up.