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I really wish I could play guitar that well.
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Feb 13, 2004, 08:55 AM
 
me too

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Feb 13, 2004, 09:16 AM
 
YJM... The master. 'nuff said.
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 10:19 AM
 
I can't even sound that good with GarageBand....
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 10:25 AM
 
Now, if only he had even the slightest bit of soul in his playing...
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 10:39 AM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Now, if only he had even the slightest bit of soul in his playing...
Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them.

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Feb 13, 2004, 10:51 AM
 
Actually I've heard some of his "blues" playing and it's not bad.
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 10:55 AM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Now, if only he had even the slightest bit of soul in his playing...
Not all of his songs are guitar-wanking and incredible arpeggios and whatnot... he does have some great "songs". Not just amazing musical pieces.

Malmsteen is amazing.
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 10:55 AM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Now, if only he had even the slightest bit of soul in his playing...
Yep. His first solo album comes close to it, but everything after that consisted of regurgitated phrygian in 32nd notes. He is impressive to watch live however - I saw him about 10 years ago, and it was strange watching someone's fingers move so quickly and accurately, and seemingly without effort.

edit: If you like YM, get Inspiration. Because it consists of covers from bands he was inspired by, his style is a bit more varied.

[edit again for pre-coffee mispellings]
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Feb 13, 2004, 10:58 AM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
Now, if only he had even the slightest bit of soul in his playing...
I can think of several players that I would
rather emulate before malmsteen.

- Clapton
- Stevie Ray Vaughn
- David Gilmore
- JImi Hendrix
- Brian Setzer (SWING BABY!)
- Eddie Van Halen
- Roy Cooder

But, malmsteen plays some kickin
classical on his AXE.

My favorite: Fugue for the electric guitar.
...
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 11:00 AM
 
In the Malmsteen vein, I preffered tony Macalpine, great pianist too.
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 11:02 AM
 
I'd rather listen to Buckethead.
     
Zimphire  (op)
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Feb 13, 2004, 11:23 AM
 
BTW I think the link is dead now
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 11:28 AM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
BTW I think the link is dead now
Nope it still works.
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 11:44 AM
 
Yeah. Why do most amazing guitar players end up wanking their own chain instead of learning how to write a good song? I guess their primary focus is being a master of their craft, but still...it doesn't do it for me. When he discovers that some songs just don't need a guitar solo...that's when I pick up an album.


And his ego is massively large as well.

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Feb 13, 2004, 11:44 AM
 
I'll listen to George Harrison or Sting instead.
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 11:58 AM
 
shred master.

Not much of an instructional video IMO, & I know good instructional videos! Just a performance rip. Course maybe thats how all guitarist "learn"
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 12:17 PM
 
It worked fine for me also Zimphire, thank you!

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Feb 13, 2004, 12:51 PM
 
Originally posted by SeSawaya:
Not much of an instructional video IMO, & I know good instructional videos! Just a performance rip. Course maybe thats how all guitarist "learn"
Note that the original instructional video may have came with a tab book. It looks a lot like he's already (before the vid rip started) shown a style method and now he's showing the viewer how it works in a piece.

Like, check the hand motion at 10 seconds - it's as if he's saying "like that, that's how it looks", like he's finishing off the lesson.

Check the pinky. A lot of his stuff depends on pinky stretches like he's doing here. Once you know his stylisms, this kind of stuff is very good to pop into your daily workouts.
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 01:02 PM
 
Unleash the ****ing fury!
     
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Originally posted by TommyLeeRoth:
Unleash the fooking fury!
AHahhah

What a drunk.
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 06:15 PM
 
Whew! that was a tough lesson, but I was able to get thru it on my 4th try.

But seriously, is this an instructional lesson for mere mortals? I don't know, Satriani might be able to learn something from it.
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 09:39 PM
 
Originally posted by d0ubled0wn:
Whew! that was a tough lesson, but I was able to get thru it on my 4th try.

But seriously, is this an instructional lesson for mere mortals? I don't know, Satriani might be able to learn something from it.
Wait, I thought Joe was Not Of This Earth.
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 10:49 PM
 
Originally posted by ghost_flash:
I can think of several players that I would
rather emulate before malmsteen.

- Clapton
- Stevie Ray Vaughn
- David Gilmore
- JImi Hendrix
- Brian Setzer (SWING BABY!)
- Eddie Van Halen
- Roy Cooder

But, malmsteen plays some kickin
classical on his AXE.

My favorite: Fugue for the electric guitar.
Who the hell is "Roy Cooder"?
Uva uvam vivendo varia fit - Augustus McCrae
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 11:24 PM
 
Originally posted by cacarr1:
Who the hell is "Roy Cooder"?
And where is Mark Knopfler on that list?
     
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Feb 13, 2004, 11:51 PM
 
Originally posted by hayesk:
And where is Mark Knopfler on that list?
Roy Cooder?...sorry Ry Cooder with Steve Vai (Crossroads)


And,

Sorry about leaving off Mark Knopfler.
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Feb 14, 2004, 10:37 AM
 
Originally posted by ghost_flash:
Roy Cooder?...sorry Ry Cooder with Steve Vai (Crossroads)


And,

Sorry about leaving off Mark Knopfler.
Good ole' Ry Cooder...started out with Taj Mahal; my "Elvis".
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Feb 14, 2004, 11:30 AM
 
I'm going all B9 here but,

less notes,
more base,
more bass,
more space,

more pace,
escape,
silence,
blow me away.

And,
there is
always a
spot where
a banjo
can be fit.
e-gads
     
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Feb 14, 2004, 11:32 AM
 
I'm better.
     
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Feb 14, 2004, 02:14 PM
 
ryu.

Why aren't you a RAWK STAW then?
     
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Feb 14, 2004, 03:17 PM
 
Originally posted by Cipher13:
Malmsteen is amazing.
laydeez and germs! the first intelligent post the criminal has ever made!
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Feb 14, 2004, 03:18 PM
 
You guys should check out Joe Bonamassa.
He was playing guitar by the time he was 4 years old. When he was 12, he'd already opened for the likes of BB King.
BB was so impressed that he invited Joe onstage with him. "Joe�s potential is so great that he hasn�t begun to scratch the surface,...He�s young, with great ideas. He�s one of a kind, a legend before his time."

He was a member of Bloodline - a group composed of offspring of famous musicians - and the only member who WASN'T offspring of famous musicians.
He's 25/26, but he plays like "an old soul". I've been fortunate enough to meet him in person. Unlike many musicians, he's unassuming, not full of himself; he's managed to keep his feet on the ground despite his fame, so to speak. -He's a 'regular Joe'.
When I saw him in concert, I was mesmerized by his playing, his fingers were like fluid across the fretboard and strings.
While waiting outside before the meet and greet, his bassist came out and hung with us smokers...of course, at first we didn't recognize him, he was just somebody hanging out before the show, we thought.
     
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Feb 14, 2004, 08:10 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
http://diablo0.servehttp.com/neonstu...gressions1.mpg

So flawlessly.. *sigh*
All right, let me be the ******** here. First of all, this is certainly not flawless. Secondly, fast arpeggios and harmonic progressions are made easier (did not say easy all right?) on an electric guitar. I have seen and heard MUCH more impressive on a classical guitar where that kind of 'game' is actually tougher.

He's a pretty good craftsman. Like so many above said, that does not make him a good artist.

villa
     
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Feb 14, 2004, 09:31 PM
 
It reminds me of Bill and Ted when Beethoven is playing the keyboards in the mall. I believe they have the same outfit on too.
     
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Feb 14, 2004, 09:38 PM
 
Originally posted by MOTHERWELL:
It reminds me of Bill and Ted when Beethoven is playing the keyboards in the mall. I believe they have the same outfit on too.
A lot of hair bands from the 80s dressed like that - Cinderella, Britney Fox (for all you youngsters - yes, there was a band by that name), Yngwie... (how sad is it that I can identify said 80s bands?)
     
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Feb 14, 2004, 09:59 PM
 
Originally posted by ghotirking:
(how sad is it that I can identify said 80s bands?)
Depends on how much spandex-clad totty you got your hands on while you were out strutting your stuff.

     
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Feb 14, 2004, 10:07 PM
 
wow, cant believe you guys left out John Mclaughlin, Grant green, Joe pass, Les paul, Kenny burrell, django, geesh so many....
     
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Feb 14, 2004, 11:31 PM
 
Originally posted by villalobos:
All right, let me be the ******** here. First of all, this is certainly not flawless.

Where did he mess up?
fast arpeggios and harmonic progressions are made easier (did not say easy all right?) on an electric guitar. I have seen and heard MUCH more impressive on a classical guitar where that kind of 'game' is actually tougher.
I've seen him do it on one of those too.
     
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Feb 15, 2004, 05:46 AM
 
My oft quoted "Zero Tolerance for Silence" is a warning example of what happens when these craftsters attempt artistry.
I slump in disbelief when this turgid Nitrous Turboguitar hyperplinking c/w fit-inducing paradiddling assaults my lug zone. Surely it's gone far beyond parody. WWF without the subtlety.
Good material for Guantanamo though.
     
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Feb 15, 2004, 06:20 AM
 
YM? I'd take SRV, Albert King et al instead, any day of the week...
     
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Feb 15, 2004, 06:29 AM
 
SRV had a fabulous 'natural' touch/feel for his instrument. Less is much more.
     
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Feb 15, 2004, 06:52 AM
 
Originally posted by hagheid:
<>Less is much more.
True, dat - Jimmy.
e-gads
     
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Feb 15, 2004, 07:57 AM
 
Originally posted by Sherwin:
Depends on how much spandex-clad totty you got your hands on while you were out strutting your stuff.

Good point.
Maybe it's time to dig out my parachute pants and bandana to tie around one leg. I probably still have a PeeChee with WASP, KISS, DIO and pot leaves doodled all over it.
OH GAWD, Make it stop!
     
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Feb 15, 2004, 09:37 AM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
Where did he mess up?
Spending too much time playing the guitar and completely forgetting the importance of eating a healthy balanced diet instead of junk food?

     
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Feb 15, 2004, 12:51 PM
 
Originally posted by hayesk:
And where is Mark Knopfler on that list?
He's over in the medicine cabinet, right next to the valium.
     
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Re Blooze Bar photo;
What an old Bag!
Always wondered what happened to my Great Aunt Aggie after she left for America.
Is she pregnant? God how she's let herself go. One minute a respectable librarian from Invertooshie, the next cavorting & boozing with the Lederhosen brothers in some den of ill-repute surrounded by dreadful Beatles memorabilia.
Her sister would turn in her grave; that's if she was dead of course.
She met that Alex Harvey once though!
     
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Feb 15, 2004, 01:14 PM
 
Originally posted by MOTHERWELL:
It reminds me of Bill and Ted when Beethoven is playing the keyboards in the mall. I believe they have the same outfit on too.
that was actually Nuno Bettencourt, from Extreme
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Feb 15, 2004, 01:56 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
ryu.

Why aren't you a RAWK STAW then?
Good guitarists are soooo 1978.
     
   
 
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