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Just kill this b*st*rd.
Seriously, people like this are ruining the human genetic pool and we don't need them around.
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I wouldn't give this kinda people an easy death.
I say hand him over to the communists in North Korea.
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OMG Hawt.
No death. Life in prison, so he can see his daughter grow old. Isn't that better than just killing people?
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Seriously, people like this are ruining the human genetic pool and we don't need them around.
Heil Hitler!
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Originally posted by Developer:
Heil Hitler!
Hahaha, at least someone said it. I didn't want to.
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Yes, a slow, slow, slow, horrifically painful death is what this piece of sh!t should get. Anyone and everyone who wants to should be able to come down to the prison and get to inflict as much pain as they want, for as long as they want. Only rule is he must survive, so as to get to experience more excruciating pain. Then, when we're all done, and anyone who wants seconds gets done, we terminate his life (by torture of course).
And it should be televised.
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Did someone say "Hire Hitler?"
'Cause if he were available to do the job, I would.
I'm just waiting for SOMEONE, anyone, to come out with their "Oh, but he's mentally ill so get him some help," comments.
If someone did this to my kid they would have something very bad happen to them -- I'm 100% serious. Might not be right away, but it WOULD happen, guaranteed.
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Originally posted by ::maroma:::
Anyone and everyone who wants to should be able to come down to the prison and get to inflict as much pain as they want, for as long as they want. Only rule is he must survive, so as to get to experience more excruciating pain. Then, when we're all done, and anyone who wants seconds gets done, we terminate his life (by torture of course).
And it should be televised.
LOL~ He should start a world-tour then.
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We need the "Rent-A-Sniper" company.
Where's that guy in Ohio when we need him?
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Originally posted by iWrite:
Just kill this b*st*rd.
Seriously, people like this are ruining the human genetic pool and we don't need them around.
OMG - Vomit.
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Originally posted by saranwarp:
I don't know whether to laugh or cry...wow.
A little bit of both will do.
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Originally posted by MindFad:
OMG Hawt.
No death. Life in prison, so he can see his daughter grow old. Isn't that better than just killing people?
Yeah... why dont we pay to keep him alive? Dig a pit and force him to live in it with scrap thrown to him. No death, just a horrible life. Better yet, make him eat himself...
Poor little kid... I hope noone ever tells her what happened...
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Yeah, give the poor guy a break. He really didn't mean to do what he did...
After all, he was probably abused as a kid himself...
Or maybe he was under the influence of alcohol or drugs...
Let's make sure we get him a good lawyer who can get him out of jail in only 4 or 5 years with good behavior.
He'll be completely rehabilitated with a little time in jail, some counseling, and people around him who will be able to help him understand that what he did was wrong.
(Now did someone say something about vomiting? Because the above scenario makes ME want to vomit --> On top of which, anyone defending that guy is probably a sicko also.)
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Originally posted by ::maroma:::
Yes, a slow, slow, slow, horrifically painful death is what this piece of sh!t should get. Anyone and everyone who wants to should be able to come down to the prison and get to inflict as much pain as they want, for as long as they want. Only rule is he must survive, so as to get to experience more excruciating pain. Then, when we're all done, and anyone who wants seconds gets done, we terminate his life (by torture of course).
And it should be televised.
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Originally posted by iWrite:
Yeah, give the poor guy a break. He really didn't mean to do what he did...
After all, he was probably abused as a kid himself...
Or maybe he was under the influence of alcohol or drugs...
Let's make sure we get him a good lawyer who can get him out of jail in only 4 or 5 years with good behavior.
He'll be completely rehabilitated with a little time in jail, some counseling, and people around him who will be able to help him understand that what he did was wrong.
(Now did someone say something about vomiting? Because the above scenario makes ME want to vomit --> On top of which, anyone defending that guy is probably a sicko also.)
I thought you were being serious for a second...
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Seriously, we make it a POINT to hire people on work release from jail in our business -- national business with multiple locations. We believe in giving people a break and giving them a chance. In fact, we even post bond for some of them so that they CAN get out of jail on work release. Want to know something? None of them has ever disappeared or pulled a fast one. So, yeah, I believe in giving people a second chance because I heard about this program when I was at a social gathering and met the local sheriff, I was the one who took the idea to my spouse and campaigned for it and he went ahead and took the chance and it's worked out well.
But, this guy? I have absolutely no sympathy or compassion or empathy for him. Not one smidgen of anything compassionate.
He is an utter waste of humanity.
But, the nice thing is that none of us has to worry about him...he'll be taken care of when he gets into jail -- just like Jeffrey Dahmer and the "Pedophile Priest Posse."
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Originally posted by iWrite:
Yeah, give the poor guy a break. He really didn't mean to do what he did...
After all, he was probably abused as a kid himself...
Or maybe he was under the influence of alcohol or drugs...
Let's make sure we get him a good lawyer who can get him out of jail in only 4 or 5 years with good behavior.
He'll be completely rehabilitated with a little time in jail, some counseling, and people around him who will be able to help him understand that what he did was wrong.
All reasonable possibilities and outcomes, iHitler. Maybe he really does need some kind of help. Better than just killing someone? Yes.
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where are the mord-sith when you need them?
(Terry Goodkind / Sword of Truth - they're women trained to torture - they can inflict pain for as long as they want)
this creature is unworthy of the term human
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1. beat the sh�t out of him with a glass covered cricket bat dipped in vinager
2. sever genetailia (penis and testies) a millimeter at a time and force him to consume them
3. force 4 quarts of supercold water into his intestinal tract (enema from hell)
4. assrape him with a metal rod coated in barbed wire
5. gouge out his eyes with friable sandstone rods (rock splinters in the eye)
6. slam a mace covered in NaCl into the open and oozing wound where his genetaila were
7. induce rapid localized swelling of certain organs (i.e. lymph nodes - to ebola-esque sizes)
8. beat the crap out of him with a metal paddle
9. run a length of coiled piano wire into his rectum, then spin it w/ a slow motor
10. then throw the ****er in prison for life... with a few interesting modifications to his anatomy via hormponal means (i.e. estrogen). Let the prisoners have fun with him.
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alternatively, castrate, mute and make him into this girl's slave for life
Or imprison for all time and feed the corpse to a pig. Then don't butcher teh pig.
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Originally posted by MindFad:
OMG Hawt.
No death. Life in prison, so he can see his daughter grow old. Isn't that better than just killing people?
If this were any other time in history, he'd be dead quite fast.
Thank god you're not in charge.
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MindFad says
Maybe he really does need some kind of help.
HAD to get that on record, MindFad.
Seriously, usually I can dig what you're saying, you're a cool cat most of the time, but C'MON!
I also dig the fact that you're putting me in the same camp as Hitler. My grandfather did some time in a concentration camp and I still have his rags from it (he was a little boy.)
Just to let you know? Hitler wouldn't have had ANYTHING to do with this guy, period.
Have a good Mein Kampf read then you'll understand.
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Originally posted by L E:
If this were any other time in history, he'd be dead quite fast.
Thank god you're not in charge.
Shhh. I was trying to get a rise out of this thread, not you. Pfft.
Seriously, though, I wouldn't want him dead, if I were looking for the worst punishment, and I certainly wouldn't follow past history as an example of how to handle such a situation.
Wait, put this post on hold. Leaving the Internet now.
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Death's idea:
1. beat the sh�t out of him with a glass covered cricket bat dipped in vinager
2. sever genetailia (penis and testies) a millimeter at a time and force him to consume them
3. force 4 quarts of supercold water into his intestinal tract (enema from hell)
4. assrape him with a metal rod coated in barbed wire
5. gouge out his eyes with friable sandstone rods (rock splinters in the eye)
6. slam a mace covered in NaCl into the open and oozing wound where his genetaila were
7. induce rapid localized swelling of certain organs (i.e. lymph nodes - to ebola-esque sizes)
8. beat the crap out of him with a metal paddle
9. run a length of coiled piano wire into his rectum, then spin it w/ a slow motor
10. then throw the ****er in prison for life... with a few interesting modifications to his anatomy via hormponal means (i.e. estrogen). Let the prisoners have fun with him.
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alternatively, castrate, mute and make him into this girl's slave for life
Or imprison for all time and feed the corpse to a pig. Then don't butcher teh pig.
[vomiting]
WHOA...are you a professional hit man with the mob or a government mercenary? You, uh, seem like you know what you're doing with this sort of thing...(gulp)...I was just thinking of a quick zap in the electric chair.
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Originally posted by MindFad:
I wouldn't want him dead, if I were looking for the worst punishment, and I certainly
examine my post [see above]
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Originally posted by iWrite:
WHOA...are you a professional hit man with the mob or a government mercenary? You, uh, seem like you know what you're doing with this sort of thing...(gulp)...I was just thinking of a quick zap in the electric chair.
nope. just a geek with a very good sense of revenge & an exceedingly sick sense of humor. death penelty is too easy for it.
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Wow.
I just read in another thread (about some guy screwing another because he didn't get paid) that two wrongs don't make a right. Well, can't that be applied to this situation? Sure, we have an enormous act of cruelty here, but.. what good will come out of killing this guy? Revenge? Will killing this guy make us feel better? Well.. I just don't follow this line of thought. Apparently, yes, this man is seriously disturbed. Killing him, however, is like taking a medicine for your headache. Sure, it will make the pain go away but it totally misses the real cause. Which is? I don't know but I guess it's worth figuring out.
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Originally posted by iWrite:
Did someone say "Hire Hitler?"
'Cause if he were available to do the job, I would.
I'm just waiting for SOMEONE, anyone, to come out with their "Oh, but he's mentally ill so get him some help," comments.
I also dig the fact that you're putting me in the same camp as Hitler. My grandfather did some time in a concentration camp and I still have his rags from it (he was a little boy.)
Just to let you know? Hitler wouldn't have had ANYTHING to do with this guy, period.
I agree that he should be severely punished, but I also believe you need to calm down. I might be understanding you wrong, but you're contradicting yourself.
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I'm calm -- perfectly calm.
However, the mental image of an actual FULL GROWN MAN doing this to a 2-month old INFANT, a baby girl who weighs about 10 pounds tops, a NEWBORN, is disgusting.
I still think the guy needs to take a one-way trip out of this world -- quickly.
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Originally posted by iWrite:
I'm calm -- perfectly calm.
calmer than you are dude.
i say burn this f*cker (now where the hell is that evil smiley?????)
i really hope this girl never knows.
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what will killing this man do for you? he still raped her. so you think killing him will make you feel better? not likely, because the little girl was still raped, killing him isn't going to do anything to her or for her. we have no right to take the life of someone.
but was sickens me the most, is that the little perv was only charged on production of child pornography, not sexual abuse or rape. thats just wrong.
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Yeah, that due process clause can be annoying.
What colleges did you claim to have gone to again?
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I often see people on MacNN threatening to shoot one another in face over some automobile disagreement or a topic that has been posted before. But strangely I haven't heard anyone suggest shooting this baby-raper in the face yet.
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but was sickens me the most, is that the little perv was only charged on production of child pornography, not sexual abuse or rape. thats just wrong.
You know, you're TOTALLY right about that.
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But, still, no matter the cruelty, all this anger and hatred will not make the world a better place.
I'm not saying that feeling anger or hatred is wrong, but, please, don't let it end there. As humans we are able to go beyond those negative and unconstructive feelings, no matter the wrongful actions that triggered them in the first place.
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I'm just glad that the victim is too young to remember any of this (at least I hope she is).
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Originally posted by leffo:
Wow.
I just read in another thread (about some guy screwing another because he didn't get paid) that two wrongs don't make a right. Well, can't that be applied to this situation? Sure, we have an enormous act of cruelty here, but.. what good will come out of killing this guy? Revenge? Will killing this guy make us feel better? Well.. I just don't follow this line of thought. Apparently, yes, this man is seriously disturbed. Killing him, however, is like taking a medicine for your headache. Sure, it will make the pain go away but it totally misses the real cause. Which is? I don't know but I guess it's worth figuring out.
No one really wants to figure out the real cause, because that involves work. It's a lot easier to just write off bad people, and incarcerate or kill them. It also gives people something to talk about, and show how outraged they are, and how "concerned" they are.
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In the early 1800s I think he would have been hung. Maybe nothing good would come from killing him but he is clearly a danger to society. I say lock him up and throw away the key. Don't pass go. Don't collect $200.
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Originally posted by InterfaceGuy:
In the early 1800s I think he would have been hung. Maybe nothing good would come from killing him but he is clearly a danger to society. I say lock him up and throw away the key. Don't pass go. Don't collect $200.
Chemical Castration and a Bitch Slap, or 200 lashes with a Cat of 9 tails....
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Originally posted by iWrite:
HAD to get that on record, MindFad.
Seriously, usually I can dig what you're saying, you're a cool cat most of the time, but C'MON!
C'mon what? I think you're out of control and nuts if you're actually serious. If I were in charge of actually judging a situation such as it is, I wouldn't be looking for the most terrible and horrific form of torture or death to inflict on the guy, as terrible as the crime is. OK, he stuck his dick in an infant. He's being charged with what, every sexual abuse crime on the list, producing and distributing child pornography, and so on? I'm sure the judge will find it sick enough to give him the maximum penalty for it, and maybe some sort of mental evaluation for good measure? Over, done. Is it shocking that it was an infant? Sure, it's ****ing sickening. You probably would've been less outraged if it were an older kid, maybe 6 or 7, or a teenager, maybe? I personally see no difference, in my humble if-I-were-in-charge-of-judging-this-crap opinion.
I also dig the fact that you're putting me in the same camp as Hitler. My grandfather did some time in a concentration camp and I still have his rags from it (he was a little boy.)
Just to let you know? Hitler wouldn't have had ANYTHING to do with this guy, period.
What's gramps have to do with you? Someone robs a candy story, and you're ready to string 'em up by their nuts. You're like a crazy murderer without the power to carry the murders out.
Opinions are like 4ssholes, though, right? These "serious conversation threads" ain't for me.
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Oh come on what right do you have to not let this guy have lo.. er just joking.
Yeah he is a sicko. I kinda feel sorry for him. :/
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MindFad:
Don't presume to tell me how I feel or think about this subject: Predators preying on ANYONE disgusts me. Age IS relevant in law, whether you like it or recognize it or not. That is why there is such a thing as categories of rape, etc.
You come across as a lot more malevolent and hateful in your posts than I ever have -- think about that.
Seriously, your post smacks of so much anger and hatred that I wonder what really is the deal with you, you know?
Are you a misogynist or something? That's all I can assume -- your language and colorful descriptions are not only radical, but immature.
As much as you despise my stance, my stance is the stance of many people in this country, especially people in Texas, Florida, South Carolina, Mississippi, etc.
People are fed up with crimes of this type, plain and simple. Just like that bastard in Sarasota that raped and murded the little girl there a month ago. Think he should be given some love too? Compassion? Sympathy?
Tell that to that community. He's a monster, plain and simple. There is no "sensationalizing" that story: He committed a heinous crime, period.
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You come across as a lot more malevolent and hateful in your posts than I ever have -- think about that.
Seriously, your post smacks of so much anger and hatred that I wonder what really is the deal with you, you know?
Are you a misogynist or something? That's all I can assume -- your language and colorful descriptions are not only radical, but immature.
Well that came out of right field � far.. far out of right field � and to this bystander seems completely offbase.
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Originally posted by fireside:
what will killing this man do for you? he still raped her. so you think killing him will make you feel better? not likely, because the little girl was still raped, killing him isn't going to do anything to her or for her. we have no right to take the life of someone.
It's not about making us feel better. It's about not allowing this person to live anymore. Life is a gift, wouldn't you agree? A beautiful gift, at that. Why allow this man to have the chance to experience life. He doesn't deserve it. Even if that life is miserable, in prison, or in his own hell.
But I have a feeling that he'll get what's coming to him in prison. Assuming of course they throw him in with general population.
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Originally posted by iWrite:
MindFad:
Don't presume to tell me how I feel or think about this subject: Predators preying on ANYONE disgusts me. Age IS relevant in law, whether you like it or recognize it or not. That is why there is such a thing as categories of rape, etc.
Oh, fine, I'll put on the Internet slapping mitts and whip out the rolleyes. Where did I tell you how you felt or think about the subject again? I was asking a question. That little squiggly thing with the tittle on the bottom there. And as for the age, I think it's a useless detail in *this* case, since that's what this who thread was about to begin with.
You come across as a lot more malevolent and hateful in your posts than I ever have -- think about that.
I disagree. Think about what? What you think about my post? Wut?
Seriously, your post smacks of so much anger and hatred that I wonder what really is the deal with you, you know?
Well, if you're being serious, fine. The deal with me? What kind of question is that? What's the deal with you?
Are you a misogynist or something? That's all I can assume -- your language and colorful descriptions are not only radical, but immature.
Wow, you made a whole lot of bullshit out of absolutely nothing. You rock at the Internet�what is your Masters Degree� in again? I'm a racist misogynist? What a joke. Immature and colorful with my language, I can live, but not that.
As much as you despise my stance, my stance is the stance of many people in this country, especially people in Texas, Florida, South Carolina, Mississippi, etc.
Right, then. Welcome back to the topic at hand. Yes, I despise your stance and views, and I think it's precisely what's wrong, in at least a small way, with the world and the US.
People are fed up with crimes of this type, plain and simple. Just like that bastard in Sarasota that raped and murded the little girl there a month ago. Think he should be given some love too? Compassion? Sympathy?
Don't presume to tell me how people feel or what they're fed up with. Ahem.
Love? I'm sure there's someone out there who loves the guy, despite his actions. I don't feel compassion or sympathize with him, but I do not wish to kill him, even if that girl were my own daughter. (Though I really don't like hearing or making such a statement, because you never really know how you would handle something like that within that moment, but it is how I feel.) Still, I wouldn't wish to kill him, and I don't think anyone in power should have the right to make that decision, either. I'd let him live with his actions and decisions and all that he would have to deal with in society thereafter.
I think society would learn more from letting people like this live.
This is how I feel today about today's laws and domestic criminal affairs. Govern mental decisions when it comes to security and national security are a whole other topic and set of views on my part, and, well, they just make not even want to hang around on this planet. Who knows what I'll think tomorrow.
A good step forward would be to turn off your televisions, though. Or at least the news.
Tell that to that community. He's a monster, plain and simple. There is no "sensationalizing" that story: He committed a heinous crime, period.
Tell what to the community? He's a monster, yes. The "news," in most forms, is the definition of sensationalizing. I agree here with everything. I don't believe he should die for it, though, and I don't believe a state should kill him for it, as I said previously.
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Really, after all of this is said and done, I really don't care whether this man lives or dies, or is killed by the law. So don't mind my views. As much as I'd rather have a house on the moon where I can play video games all day and not be bothered with Earthly human affairs, I do like to stick in my opinion on the current status of things. And, as shitty as I think society is right now, I don't care enough to try and do anything about it. That probably makes me a bad American, person, and human being, or something. But at least I stand by my views and opinions from time to time, even if they don't mean anything.
Truer words were never spoken: "Opinions are like assholes: everyone's got one."
I'd like to add my personal take on it: "Opinions are like assholes: everyone's got one and no one cares."
Don't take life so seriously; just have fun with it. But don't kill anyone.
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