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macintologist · Nov 10, 2005, 05:09 AM

Other than Limewire and Gnutella-based apps, what's the best p2p app out there for Windows? I heard that Kazaa lite was good but a friend of mine got a virus once from a sketch Kazaa lite download. Maybe there's a good download link out there someone knows about?

And when I mean p2p I mean being able to download songs that I already own on CD for backup purposes.

smacintush · Nov 10, 2005, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by macintologist

…download songs that I already own on CD for backup purposes.

Athens · Nov 10, 2005, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by macintologist

Other than Limewire and Gnutella-based apps, what's the best p2p app out there for Windows? I heard that Kazaa lite was good but a friend of mine got a virus once from a sketch Kazaa lite download. Maybe there's a good download link out there someone knows about?

And when I mean p2p I mean being able to download songs that I already own on CD for backup purposes.

Well that backing up songs is total BS but anyways limewire is the best because there is no spyware attached to it, and much larger these days since Kazaa went into spyware and charging. Its your best bet by far. I personally prefer bittorrents for my *cough* backing up media I cant for some reason use in my computer.

Chuckit · Nov 10, 2005, 05:30 AM

There is no Windows P2P app without a significant virus risk. Best to have protection.

Athens · Nov 10, 2005, 05:35 AM

BTW your friend got a virus because he had to use (illegal) sites to get his (illegal Program) to download (copyrighted material) which is illegal. And to download Music which you already own the CD (media) which includes a license to play the music for personal use is illegal, you are allowed depending on country and state under special laws to make personal backups of copyrighted materials by means of the original owned media. And not by borrowing, downloading, and renting copies of the media. If you break your CD for example yet you own it, most places its illegal to borrow another one to backup. You missed your chance to backup your original media thus forcing you to purchase another disc.

Athens · Nov 10, 2005, 05:38 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

There is no Windows P2P app without a significant virus risk. Best to have protection.

His friend got the virus trying to download K++ not from downloading using P2P. K++ also called Kazaa light is a illegal hacked copy of Kazaa with no spyware and its bloody hard to find because Kazaa pounces on any one that posts it up on the web. The sites you can get it from are sites that deal with illegal content, hacker groups and porn. When I got it orginally the first 5 attempts ended up as fake files that where just viruses.

kmkkid · Nov 10, 2005, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by Athens

His friend got the virus trying to download K++ not from downloading using P2P. K++ also called Kazaa light is a illegal hacked copy of Kazaa with no spyware and its bloody hard to find because Kazaa pounces on any one that posts it up on the web. The sites you can get it from are sites that deal with illegal content, hacker groups and porn. When I got it orginally the first 5 attempts ended up as fake files that where just viruses.

eh? Kazaa Lite has it's own homepage....

www.kazaalite.pl

kmkkid · Nov 10, 2005, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

There is no Windows P2P app without a significant virus risk. Best to have protection.

Bit Torrent files are relatively safe, because torrent sites will delete the files upon notification of a virus. A few people may get unlucky, but it's a lot safer then the other P2P apps. I don't get the P2P virus scare, just don't download executables that are way off in estimated file size, have strange names, or just don't download them at all.

Athens · Nov 10, 2005, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by kmkkid

eh? Kazaa Lite has it's own homepage....

www.kazaalite.pl

hehe well a year ago even google posted a notice when you searched for it, by request of blah blah this search term is no permitted, and they kept closing down any one that had it. Thanks for the link though

Doofy · Nov 10, 2005, 08:32 AM

eDonkey, no competition.

Athens · Nov 10, 2005, 08:34 AM

I found Limewire Pro better then eDonkey

Peter · Nov 10, 2005, 08:38 AM

Cabos

Doofy · Nov 10, 2005, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Athens

I found Limewire Pro better then eDonkey

Depends on how much patience you have. If you're expecting files to be downloaded instantly, eDonkey is not the one for you. If you like to run the app in the background on a 24/7 machine, eDonkey is the one.

turtle777 · Nov 10, 2005, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by macintologist

And when I mean p2p I mean being able to download songs that I already own on CD for backup purposes.

Back up your pron ? Rrrriiiiggght !

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Oisín · Nov 10, 2005, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Doofy

eDonkey, no competition.

eMule? eDonkey never worked for me.

I have a feeling this thread is headed for lockination on a one-way express train...

ghporter · Nov 10, 2005, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by kmkkid

Bit Torrent files are relatively safe, because torrent sites will delete the files upon notification of a virus. A few people may get unlucky, but it's a lot safer then the other P2P apps. I don't get the P2P virus scare, just don't download executables that are way off in estimated file size, have strange names, or just don't download them at all.

I'm afraid that EVERYTHING one can download through P2P with a Windows computer is a virus threat, whether the size, name, and just about everything matches or not. The only way to verify that something is clean is to use something like an MD5 hash signature for it-and then you have to be careful about where you get the signature from being legitimate.

I personally back up MY CDs THAT I ALREADY OWN using Musicmatch and/or iTunes on my PC. Funny, but it's quick, easy, safe, LEGAL, and above all completely within my personal control. And nobody can say I'm pirating anything because all I have to do is point to my rack of hundreds and hundreds of commercial CDs and find the original any time I want to.

The stench of piracy is strong with the OP's question...

starman · Nov 10, 2005, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by macintologist

Other than Limewire and Gnutella-based apps, what's the best p2p app out there for Windows? I heard that Kazaa lite was good but a friend of mine got a virus once from a sketch Kazaa lite download. Maybe there's a good download link out there someone knows about?

And when I mean p2p I mean being able to download songs that I already own on CD for backup purposes.

Do we all look that stupid to you?

KeriVit · Nov 10, 2005, 01:18 PM

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wallinbl · Nov 10, 2005, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by macintologist

And when I mean p2p I mean being able to download songs that I already own on CD for backup purposes.

Because it's much easier to search and search and search for something you then have to download. Or, you could pop it in your computer, let your ripping software rip it automatically, and be done. I ripped all my CDs while watching TV. Just head to the computer every four minutes to put another one it.

Try a better argument next time.

RAzaRazor · Nov 10, 2005, 01:49 PM

eMule is the best thing out there.

http://www.emule-project.net/

Dark Helmet · Nov 10, 2005, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by macintologist

And when I mean p2p I mean being able to download songs that I already own on CD for backup purposes.

Ya that always cracks me up when I hear people say that and actually believe it themselves.

macroy · Nov 11, 2005, 12:41 AM

check out Gnucleus - it's an open source app that works off of GiFT and support gnutella, G2 and other networks. you can find it on sourceforge or http://www.gnucleus.com

macintologist · Nov 11, 2005, 04:02 AM

My CD collection is in another country, thats why I want to be able to access my CD's via proxy, ie. downloading the songs I already own from p2p services.

Also, the CD drive in my Powerbook is busted so I can't simply import the CD's even if I had them. People should ask questions rather than assume.

Dark Helmet · Nov 11, 2005, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by macintologist

My CD collection is in another country, thats why I want to be able to access my CD's via proxy, ie. downloading the songs I already own from p2p services.

Also, the CD drive in my Powerbook is busted so I can't simply import the CD's even if I had them. People should ask questions rather than assume.

Does any of that make it legal?

Athens · Nov 11, 2005, 04:12 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Does any of that make it legal?

Depends on the Country, State and Province. Its legal in some places for personal backups only which override the copyright or license agreement of the product. But its not universal. Technically if you live in a place that has no such law its technically illegal, but its not something you can be caught for unless you are making the copies available to download.

EDIT

Opps reread that, no its not legal, he should have his music cd's mailed to him and either fix his drive or borrow or buy a external to legally backup his own music. Good idea of fix or buy the drive if one day you mess up your OS and need to reinstall it anyways. Still sounds fishy to me. I could have accepted the broken drive but both the broken drive and CD's being in another country

macintologist · Nov 11, 2005, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Does any of that make it legal?

It makes it ethical at the very least.

Athens · Nov 11, 2005, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by macintologist

It makes it ethical at the very least.

Breaking a law or violating copyright agreements just because your unable or willing to do things the correct way are by no means ethical.

macintologist · Nov 11, 2005, 04:45 AM

Originally Posted by Athens

Breaking a law or violating copyright agreements just because your unable or willing to do things the correct way are by no means ethical.

Someone should have told Rosa Parks that.

Athens · Nov 11, 2005, 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by macintologist

Someone should have told Rosa Parks that.

Different situation, you have with in your means to do things in the correct way, fix your laptop and mail your cd's. Rosa Parks broke the law in a cause of equal rights and went to jail in something that benefited others. How is your downloading music benefiting others or a cause to change the world?

- - e r i k - - · Nov 11, 2005, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by Athens

Breaking a law or violating copyright agreements just because your unable or willing to do things the correct way are by no means ethical.

That depends on your own sense of ethics, and if your own sense of ethics is based on common sense overriding misguided laws then it's ethical.

macintologist · Nov 11, 2005, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by Athens

Different situation, you have with in your means to do things in the correct way, fix your laptop and mail your cd's. Rosa Parks broke the law in a cause of equal rights and went to jail in something that benefited others. How is your downloading music benefiting others or a cause to change the world?

Beause copyright laws are ridiculous and need to be changed to benefit the consumer more and less the greedy corporations.

Y3a · Nov 11, 2005, 03:24 PM

<< Beause copyright laws are ridiculous and need to be changed to benefit the consumer more and less the greedy corporations.>>

NO they need to help the ARTISTS not the corporations. The punishments for music and other intellectual properties should be increased so the stupid dimwits who DO steal have much more time in prison to think about it.

wataru · Nov 11, 2005, 03:32 PM

Copyright infringement is not theft. Stop making false claims.

And you really think that people should be jailed for copyright infringement? That's pretty ****ed up, if you ask me.