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View Poll Results: Have you heard of a 16 year old boy who wasn't allowed to buy a sword?
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Dakar²
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Originally Posted by Y3a View Post
On the rag again I see...


Says the Steven A. Smith of the Lounge!
     
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Originally Posted by Y3a View Post
On the rag again I see...
You can't say those are a waste of money.
     
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Dec 20, 2006, 11:54 AM
 
More importantly, I'm sure he has hobbies or interests some of use might dismiss callously as well.
     
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Originally Posted by macgeek2005 View Post
Seriously guys. Do you think a sword is that dangerous? I'm not an idiot. I just want it because it looks amazing and so that I can say I have a real sword.
Definitely... check this out:

YouTube - Dangerous Japanese Sword
     
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Originally Posted by marden View Post
When something REALLY bad happened we would ALL be talkin smack about how stupid you were but we would be saying WORSE things about your mom like she was a crappy mother, there is no way she was responsible, she was probably off smoking crack and screwing some drug dealer or was turning tricks for $2.00 a throw or some crap.

None of it would be true, of course. Your mom is an undoubtedly fine, loving and responsible person and a terrific parent.

But as posters we often jump to conclusions that do not take into account reality.

You have seen it yourself if you've spent any time here at all.

What you need to realize is that what happens here online is just a harmless version of what would REALLY happen if something happened.

Your mom would be recognized everywhere she went. People would point at her and shake their heads and say, "she's totally irresponsible and disgusting." "That woman is a disgrace! She can't control her kid." "How did anyone think she should be allowed to have a child?"

All because she loved you so much that she gave in to your request when maybe she shouldn't have.

And not that you would necessarily get in trouble with this weapon. When you showed it to your friends and one of them prevailed upon YOU to play with it and a mistake occurred...guess what?

Your MOM gets the blame!

Or when your friends tell their parents about your weapon or when word gets around at school about it, everyone will be saying how irresponsible your mom is. No one will want their kids to hang out with you or allow their kids to come over your house.

Someone might even call your mom or come by and talk with her about it.

And depending on what kind of person your mom is she MIGHT take offense at their telling her how to raise her child. Or she might be embarrassed to realize that those people are right and she shouldn't have given in to your request.

All of that crap she would have to go through.

And for what?

But maybe we are all wrong.

Perhaps you are mature enough to own and safeguard yourself and others from this weapon if it were in your care.

The men who used such weapons in war hundreds of years ago lived by a certain code and were prepared to die for that code.

What is the code that you live by?


Wow, so much to be said about a damn 16 year old who wants a sword!
     
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Dec 20, 2006, 12:11 PM
 
Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Wow, so much to be said about a damn 16 year old who wants a sword!
I know, you'd think this was a video game thread.
     
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Anybody care to summarize the Marden post and let us know why we should be afraid of terrorists and support the president now?
     
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Dec 20, 2006, 12:19 PM
 
I don't think I would have been able to get a sword, either. Get a gun instead.

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Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
I don't think I would have been able to get a sword, either. Get a gun instead.
And then force her to let you get the sword at gunpoint! Brilliant!
     
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Dec 20, 2006, 12:26 PM
 
Originally Posted by marden View Post
When something REALLY bad happened we would ALL be talkin smack about how stupid you were but we would be saying WORSE things about your mom like she was a crappy mother, there is no way she was responsible, she was probably off smoking crack and screwing some drug dealer or was turning tricks for $2.00 a throw or some crap.

None of it would be true, of course. Your mom is an undoubtedly fine, loving and responsible person and a terrific parent.

But as posters we often jump to conclusions that do not take into account reality.

You have seen it yourself if you've spent any time here at all.

What you need to realize is that what happens here online is just a harmless version of what would REALLY happen if something happened.

Your mom would be recognized everywhere she went. People would point at her and shake their heads and say, "she's totally irresponsible and disgusting." "That woman is a disgrace! She can't control her kid." "How did anyone think she should be allowed to have a child?"

All because she loved you so much that she gave in to your request when maybe she shouldn't have.

And not that you would necessarily get in trouble with this weapon. When you showed it to your friends and one of them prevailed upon YOU to play with it and a mistake occurred...guess what?

Your MOM gets the blame!

Or when your friends tell their parents about your weapon or when word gets around at school about it, everyone will be saying how irresponsible your mom is. No one will want their kids to hang out with you or allow their kids to come over your house.

Someone might even call your mom or come by and talk with her about it.

And depending on what kind of person your mom is she MIGHT take offense at their telling her how to raise her child. Or she might be embarrassed to realize that those people are right and she shouldn't have given in to your request.

All of that crap she would have to go through.

And for what?

But maybe we are all wrong.

Perhaps you are mature enough to own and safeguard yourself and others from this weapon if it were in your care.

The men who used such weapons in war hundreds of years ago lived by a certain code and were prepared to die for that code.

What is the code that you live by?
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Dec 20, 2006, 01:07 PM
 
I wouldn't either. You know damn well you are going to be swinging it around in your bedroom sooner or later and one small slip you impale yourself.

"She's gone from suck to blow!"
     
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Dec 20, 2006, 01:18 PM
 
Alright, here's the link to the sword. I'm willing to give it to you guys now cause you promised you wouldn't buy any, and also the guy there promised he'd hold one for me until tommorow.

Sunny & Omi Sales 41" Hand Forged Japanese Samurai Sword Razor Sharp

It may not be real, but it's real enough.
     
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Real? Do you have any idea how much a REAL samurai sword is?

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Dec 20, 2006, 01:32 PM
 
They must have spent thousands on an ad agency to come up with that tagline:


"Minimum order $50"
     
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Dec 20, 2006, 01:38 PM
 
I HIGHLY advice you to learn how to inspect a sword if you even think about using it (Especially a $50 one, or any production sword, to be honest). You also need to learn how to clean and oil one.
     
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Originally Posted by macgeek2005 View Post
Alright, here's the link to the sword. I'm willing to give it to you guys now cause you promised you wouldn't buy any, and also the guy there promised he'd hold one for me until tommorow.

Sunny & Omi Sales 41" Hand Forged Japanese Samurai Sword Razor Sharp

It may not be real, but it's real enough.
I don't know much about swords but I can't imagine it's anything other than a complete load of junk for that price. Only of interest to fools or easily impressed teenage boys.
     
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Dec 20, 2006, 01:42 PM
 
Definitely reminds me of crap sold for people who have an interest but don't know anything.
     
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Originally Posted by talisker View Post
I don't know much about swords but I can't imagine it's anything other than a complete load of junk for that price. Only of interest to fools or easily impressed teenage boys.
It's what we call an SLO (Sword Like Object).
     
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Originally Posted by exca1ibur View Post
It's what we call an SLO (Sword Like Object).
What the hell are you guys talking about?

Explain please?
     
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Dec 20, 2006, 01:44 PM
 
Originally Posted by macgeek2005 View Post
What the hell are you guys talking about?

Explain please?
If it's $50 then there's something wrong with it. Period.
     
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Originally Posted by Gossamer View Post
If it's $50 then there's something wrong with it. Period.
What if you're wrong? It's wholesale. Mr. Sutokko makes these swords in limited quantities and they sell them for cheap. They're not "real" real so they're not worth that much, but they can be high quality.
     
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Originally Posted by macgeek2005 View Post
What the hell are you guys talking about?

Explain please?
SLO = A 'fake' sword

I can tell you these facts about that sword.

1) It's not handmade its a production sword
2) Folded steel for $50? Cheapest folded steel REAL blade runs a few grand easy
3) Sure its carbon steel, yet it doesn't say what grade. (Flag)
4) The Tsuba (handguard) is aluminum, a real sword should be steel

The most important thing... for $50 you have no quality control. Being it is a production sword the Tsuka (handle) isn't made specifically for that blade. They are made in quality and just put on, so they have the tendency to crack or split. So when you go swinging it around the handle flies off and kills someone. This is why I stated above (Learn to inspect a production sword before use). I've read quite a few horror stories of that. I've seen photos from a guy that bought a sword and found out the handle had broken during the forge and they welded it back and assembled it. When he inspected it he found this out, now had he have tried to cut that... I don't even want to think about it. When it comes to swords and prices. You REALLY have to look at what you pay for, and why most experts will tell you to buy books before you buy your first sword. I did research for months before I even bought my first blade.

BTW: Don't take any of my comments as attacks, I'm just trying to give you some knowledge that will keep you safe. A sword IS a weapon, and needs to be respected as that.
     
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Originally Posted by macgeek2005 View Post
Alright, here's the link to the sword. I'm willing to give it to you guys now cause you promised you wouldn't buy any, and also the guy there promised he'd hold one for me until tommorow.

Sunny & Omi Sales 41" Hand Forged Japanese Samurai Sword Razor Sharp

It may not be real, but it's real enough.
Well, he's out of stock now.

I'll sell you one for $150.
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Originally Posted by Y3a View Post
On the rag again I see...
I think he's just straining at trying to achieve relevancy. And it shows him in a poor light.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Wow, so much to be said about a damn 16 year old who wants a sword!
It was not ABOUT a 16 year old who wants a sword, it's TO a young man concerning things he may want to think about before making this decision.
     
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Originally Posted by marden View Post
I think he's just straining at trying to achieve relevancy. And it shows him in a poor light.
Which one of us starts tons of threads?

If you want to talk about straining for relevancy, start by looking at your 5 accounts and PL dramas.
     
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Originally Posted by marden View Post
It was not ABOUT a 16 year old who wants a sword, it's TO a young man concerning things he may want to think about before making this decision.

How paternal of you!
     
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My son has a number of swords, all of them "costume" swords. We have a number of other "costume" swords as well. We have ONE "real" sword in the house: my "ring guard" sword. And I have to agree that it's your mom's house so her rules apply.

Now let's look at "cool" versus "message." While a katana may look cool, about 99.9% of people who own them are posers and losers who only know the "cool look" of the sword, not the background, the metalurgy, the history, or the techniques associated with it-or ANY sword. The message (which is probably what your mother is seeing) is that of "I am one bad MF because I have this here sword." She has a lot of examples to base this on, by the way, so it's not her fault.

If you want "cool" AND are willing to put out some effort, find a kendo do in your area and take the lessons. And the bruises. You'll develop a number of things this way, including fitness and stamina, coordination, grace in movement, and most of all control. The skills from kendo apply to the entire life, from economy and smoothness of movement to deciding how and with what to spend your time. For what it's worth, my son (19) is taking fencing as one of his Phys Ed electives at school. That's a worthy task too.

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Originally Posted by Dakar² View Post
Which one of us starts tons of threads?

If you want to talk about straining for relevancy, start by looking at your 5 accounts and PL dramas.
To Paraphrase Dakar: "But, but what about YOU?"



Ok, now please stop derailing this thread. I think that everyone here is tired of your thread hijacking shenanigans!
     
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Originally Posted by marden View Post
But then what about you?
I don't start tons of threads or have tons of accounts. PL drama? Nope.

Try again.
     
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Originally Posted by Dakar² View Post
I don't start tons of threads or have tons of accounts. PL drama? Nope.

Try again.
And Dakar never initiated an uprising resulting in rules being changed.
     
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Originally Posted by Gossamer View Post
And Dakar never initiated an uprising resulting in rules being changed.
Neither did Rosa Parks...oops, I guess she did.

Now enough of your hijack hi-jinks.
     
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You guys really need to check this out... Funny as hell!

YouTube - Dangerous Japanese Sword
     
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Originally Posted by marden View Post
Neither did Rosa Parks...oops, I guess she did.

Now enough of your hijack hi-jinks.

Are you comparing yourself to Rosa Parks, or just making a general comment?
     
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Originally Posted by marden View Post
Now enough of your hijack hi-jinks.
Uh, you're the one who brought me back up, slick!
     
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He's not out of stock! What are you saying?
     
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Originally Posted by Rumor View Post
Well, he's out of stock now.

I'll sell you one for $150.
Why do you say that? He's not out of stock.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
You guys really need to check this out... Funny as hell!

YouTube - Dangerous Japanese Sword
Isn't this the second time you've posted this link?

Also, someone beat you to it on page 1.
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Originally Posted by macgeek2005 View Post
Why do you say that? He's not out of stock.
Yes he is. I bought them all.

Like I said, I'll sell you one for $150.
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Originally Posted by Rumor View Post
Isn't this the second time you've posted this link?

Also, someone beat you to it on page 1.


*blush*

sorry!


What about Patrick Swayze being in a fender bender? Have I told you guys about that yet?
     
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Originally Posted by Rumor View Post
Yes he is. I bought them all.

Like I said, I'll sell you one for $150.
I'm not that gullible. You didn't buy them all.
     
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Wait. Aren't swords for girls?

Real men should have a spiked club:

WeaponsGalore.com - The UK's premier weapons website

Only 40 quid.
     
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Can this thread please be closed? It's existence has been rendered pointless.
     
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Originally Posted by Doofy View Post
Wait. Aren't swords for girls?
You walk up to a ninja and tell him that.
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Originally Posted by Chuckit View Post
You walk up to a ninja and tell him that.
I would if I could locate any. But I can't, because they're invisible. They're like that, ninjas. Sneaky barstewards.
     
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My friend Mark said that he saw a ninja totally uppercut some kid just because the kid opened a window.
     
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My friend Mark said that he saw a ninja totally uppercut some kid just because the kid opened a window.
And did Mark start taking his pants off but Alex got totally excited and stuff?
     
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And did Mark start taking his pants off but Alex got totally excited and stuff?
Ninjas are sooooooooooo sweet that I want to crap my pants. I can't believe it sometimes, but I feel it inside my heart. These guys are totally awesome and that's a fact. Ninjas are fast, smooth, cool, strong, powerful, and sweet. I can't wait to start yoga next year. I love ninjas with all of my body (including my pee pee).
     
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Real men should have a spiked club.
Sounds like something a caveman would carry.
     
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Sounds like something a caveman would carry.
Did cavemen wear codpieces too?
     
 
 
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