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subego
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Aug 24, 2024, 06:29 AM
 
Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
every single word we write here is completely wasted effort.
I kept on trying to tell you that.

It’s the Supreme Court that has framed the militia clause to be irrelevant to the 2nd Amendment. I don’t agree with the interpretation, but I’m not a Supreme Court justice, so my opinion is academic.
     
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Aug 24, 2024, 01:48 PM
 
How does it work with extradition between US states?
I gather Trump could end up being convicted under state laws in both NY (is it the one where he's already been convicted? or one of the upcoming trials?) and GA, is that right? And in those instances, he would be unable to pardon himself if he gets elected POTUS again correct?
So if that happens and let's say he is promptly convicted and sentenced to jail in both those states after being elected, does the POTUS then have to avoid those states?
Would any or all other states extradite him? Would it be down to individual governors or even cops potentially? Even if it's the law that they should arrest him and extradite him?
If that were the case, he's going to be too terrified to travel anywhere. Even flying over a state he perceives as hostile would be a risk if there was engine trouble to force a landing.
Could local law enforcement end up in a shoot-out with his Secret Service detail?

He'd end up holed up in Mar-A-Largo with a private army of Proud Boys wouldn't he? Making it like a drug cartel's villa.
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Aug 24, 2024, 02:16 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
I kept on trying to tell you that.

It’s the Supreme Court that has framed the militia clause to be irrelevant to the 2nd Amendment. I don’t agree with the interpretation, but I’m not a Supreme Court justice, so my opinion is academic.
I appreciate that your academic points are somehow more valid than my academic points
     
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Aug 24, 2024, 02:34 PM
 
My academic point is I’m in agreement with you the militia clause isn’t severable from the rest of the 2nd Amendment the way the Supreme Court has decided it to be..

I weigh these points equally because they’re the same.
     
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Aug 24, 2024, 04:42 PM
 
Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep View Post
How does it work with extradition between US states?
The way it works on TV is a pair of cops from the appropriate jurisdiction get authorized by the other state to arrest the perp in their territory.

I’ve never heard of this being denied. If someone tried it, I imagine that would immediately go to federal court.
     
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Aug 25, 2024, 09:50 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
The way it works on TV is a pair of cops from the appropriate jurisdiction get authorized by the other state to arrest the perp in their territory.

I’ve never heard of this being denied. If someone tried it, I imagine that would immediately go to federal court.
I thought this was just a “mechanical” thing where you have to go through the motions.
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Aug 25, 2024, 10:37 AM
 
I get the feeling they’re “rubber stamped”. You also see this on TV in high speed pursuits, where when they get near the border they’ll radio ahead to get permission to continue pursuit, though on TV I feel friction between the involved departments gets milked for drama.

For reference, the last time I saw an actual extradition on TV was when Jerry Orbach (dead) on Law & Order went to Baltimore to pick up a perp from Richard Belzer (dead) on Homicide.
     
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Aug 25, 2024, 05:07 PM
 
Seems like that was several episodes of justified, getting people to their out of state court date and getting hijacked along the way?
     
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Aug 25, 2024, 05:19 PM
 
I haven’t seen it. It’s on my list. I’ve only heard good things about it and I absolutely love both Olyphant and Goggins.
     
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Aug 25, 2024, 07:47 PM
 
So the siege of Mar-A-Lago could be on then. Interesting times.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Aug 26, 2024, 08:17 AM
 
Huh?
     
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Aug 26, 2024, 05:20 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
The way it works on TV is a pair of cops from the appropriate jurisdiction get authorized by the other state to arrest the perp in their territory.
Like Coogan's Bluff.
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