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Mithras · Nov 18, 2004, 10:32 AM

The vision I had is the love of God can change everything," Unfreid said.

When the two seniors, 17 and 18, got caught kissing girls in front of younger students in late October, Unfreid said that while contemplating what discipline to hand out, he woke at 3 a.m. and prayed how to avoid expelling them....

Later at school, Unfreid walked the boys down to a basement room with Brost. He told them, " 'Guys, this has gotta stop,' " he said. " 'I've let the atmosphere get too lax. I share in this discipline. This is a one-time deal.' "

Then the principal took off his belt, gave it to Brost, and instructed the teacher to "discipline me like you would discipline your own son," he recalled.

The principal said he has no regrets over his action, only that he "showed a form of Christianity that was too radical for some members of the school community."

Zimphire · Nov 18, 2004, 10:41 AM

I got my ass whipped many of times when I was younger.

I am damn glad It got done too. I deserved every one I got.

Spare the rod...

CD Hanks · Nov 18, 2004, 10:49 AM

I'm sure this was a dream come true for most of the student population there.

AB^2=BCxAC · Nov 18, 2004, 10:52 AM

I love acts inspiring unquestioning fealty to authority with threats of violence AND I love people with martyr complexes AND I love teenagers being forbidden to kiss in public... THIS STORY HAS EVERYTHING! FIVE STARS!!!

Millennium · Nov 18, 2004, 11:31 AM

Um... dude. This is just plain nuts.

starman · Nov 18, 2004, 11:39 AM

I wonder if, someday, these people get real old and realize how friggin' STUPID they were.

Discipline for kissing in front of younger students? Expulsion? God forbid people should show affection for one another!

Mike

itai195 · Nov 18, 2004, 11:42 AM

I'll go with the lunatic option

wdlove · Nov 18, 2004, 12:08 PM

"He who is without sin cast the first stone."

Millennium · Nov 18, 2004, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by wdlove:
"He who is without sin cast the first stone."

He seems to have thrown it at himself, anyway. I suppose that's something. Though frankly, I also suspect ulterior motives of a, shall we say, masochistic bent?

GoGoReggieXPowars · Nov 18, 2004, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I got my ass whipped many of times when I was younger.

I'm sure your parents let you beat them, right? That's what this story is about, more or less.

phoenixboy70 · Nov 18, 2004, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Spare the rod...

i'm sure you made it pretty clear you weren't going to have any rod near your a55.

Zimphire · Nov 18, 2004, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by phoenixboy70:

i'm sure you made it pretty clear you weren't going to have any rod near your a55.

Stop... you are making my anus tingle.

TheBadgerHunter · Nov 18, 2004, 01:32 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Stop... you are making my anus tingle.

Stop... you're making my retch.

Simon X · 01:27 PM

!!!!!!!!!

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Nov 18, 2004, 01:54 PM

$10 says he got turned on by it.

voyageur · Nov 18, 2004, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
$10 says he got turned on by it.

yup.

starman · Nov 18, 2004, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
$10 says he got turned on by it.

I was thinking the same thing.

Mike

starman · Nov 18, 2004, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
Stop... you're making my retch.

wretch

Fixed

GoGoReggieXPowars · Nov 18, 2004, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
$10 says he got turned on by it.

LOL

Superchicken · Nov 18, 2004, 04:38 PM

Actually this is a very interesting idea. And if you notice the reason the school board dismissed him was a technicality. Because if I gather correctly this is a small private Christian school. And they could not find anything scriptural that would condemn this sort of selfless attitude.
The principal was showing the students how much they hurt not only themselves but him in their actions which whether you like them or not were probably clearly prohibited, the children and their parents would have both known the rules.

Getting up in arms for strangeness is a very unchristian thing to do in my opinion. If we have examples of the strange stuff most of the prophets did getting mad at this sort of thing is stupid. This is the problem with modern Christianity, to worried about being acceptable to people who don't care about their faith.

TheBadgerHunter · Nov 18, 2004, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Superchicken:
Actually this is a very interesting idea. And if you notice the reason the school board dismissed him was a technicality. Because if I gather correctly this is a small private Christian school. And they could not find anything scriptural that would condemn this sort of selfless attitude.
The principal was showing the students how much they hurt not only themselves but him in their actions which whether you like them or not were probably clearly prohibited, the children and their parents would have both known the rules.

Getting up in arms for strangeness is a very unchristian thing to do in my opinion. If we have examples of the strange stuff most of the prophets did getting mad at this sort of thing is stupid. This is the problem with modern Christianity, to worried about being acceptable to people who don't care about their faith.

Its neither here nor there. While there is no scriptural basis against. He was attempting to do what jesus did on the cross, in form of an example. One could say since they weren't facing that kind of punishment in the first place it was unnecessary and largely ineffective.

This is a controversial point. While scripturally sound it wasn't an action parents or non-christians would readily accept.

AKcrab · Nov 18, 2004, 05:08 PM

Freaky Alaskans. What's wrong with those people.

BRussell · Nov 18, 2004, 05:42 PM

Won't this simply encourage more kids to kiss in public? "You get to make out AND spank the principal!"

Superchicken · Nov 18, 2004, 05:54 PM

Originally posted by BRussell:
Won't this simply encourage more kids to kiss in public? "You get to make out AND spank the principal!"

He said it was a one time thing.

As for him trying to be a Jesus. I don't think so. I think he was more providing a more in your face example of 1st Cor 12. People who aren't Christians and haven't learned to think of things in a Christian way won't get this. Granted I wouldn't do this myself. But I do not fault him for doing so.

Xeo · Nov 18, 2004, 11:36 PM

What a strange, strange man.

the_glassman · Nov 18, 2004, 11:48 PM

I would have told them that Bobo has been a very naughty monkey and they will have to spank him to cleanse their sins!

Rivers of blood will flow of the non believers!

ironknee · Nov 19, 2004, 12:22 AM

wow strange

Rolling Bones · Nov 19, 2004, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by AKcrab:
Freaky Alaskans. What's wrong with those people.

Ahh...lack of daylight for part of the year?

ringo · Nov 19, 2004, 08:36 AM

Typical of the extreme moral right....violence in front of students is OK, but affection between students is wrong...all from a man who claims to be inspired by "love".

Mithras · Nov 19, 2004, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by ringo:
Typical of the extreme moral right....violence in front of students is OK, but affection between students is wrong...all from a man who claims to be inspired by "love".

Wow good point. Interesting characterization of it.

Shaddim · Nov 19, 2004, 09:10 AM

I remember getting busted several times for "necking" in school (usually between classes). Though fun, it wasn't "legal" 16 years ago, and it still isn't acceptable to do it now. School isn't a place to get your freak on. Restraint in such areas needs to be exercised, especially with regards to minors.

That teacher's a freak, however. He needs therapy, lots of it.

Zimphire · Nov 19, 2004, 01:04 PM

I got busted getting a BJ between the lockers in High School.

We never really got into trouble for it other than a "Good talking to" about STDs and pregnancy.

I was a bad seed in high school.

Sherwin · Nov 19, 2004, 01:08 PM

I have to beat myself up every now and then, just to actually see what it's like being on the losing side.

phoenixboy70 · 01:21 PM

Originally posted by ringo:
Typical of the extreme moral right....violence in front of students is OK, but affection between students is wrong...all from a man who claims to be inspired by "love".

you know what, that's a very good point. in essence both had "sexual experiences" in front of people.

this is what is called the "return of the repressed"in psychoanalysis. the principal needed to live out his sexuality and exhibitionism in a transformed way to deal with having repressed the kids sexuality/openness.

fascinating.

ironknee · Nov 19, 2004, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I got busted getting a BJ between the lockers in High School.

We never really got into trouble for it other than a "Good talking to" about STDs and pregnancy.

I was a bad seed in high school.

from a girl, right?

i think a lot of people think u need more ass whipping

Zimphire · Nov 19, 2004, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by ironknee:
from a girl, right?

Actually it was your mom!

i think a lot of people think u need more ass whipping

I probably do. Are you going to come whip my ass?

Sherwin · Nov 19, 2004, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I probably do. Are you going to come whip my ass?

Don't provoke him Zimph - he sounds tough.

Zimphire · Nov 19, 2004, 01:58 PM

Naw not really provoking.

Me and my older brother used to fight all the time. But that stopped when I started getting bigger than him for some reason...

Never been into a "fight" with another person. Never had a reason to. It's silly.

Lancer409 · Nov 19, 2004, 02:10 PM

powerful .. i'm sure it'll change people's attitudes. if not immediately, it will in the future ... they'll look back ... and have a soft spot for the principal who cared so much, he suffed for them... wow ..

Stradlater · Nov 19, 2004, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by Superchicken:
The principal was showing the students how much they hurt not only themselves but him in their actions

Hickeys are hell.

Mithras · Nov 19, 2004, 05:34 PM

Perhaps the principal would enjoy this product. Only $8.88 -- is that an occult pricing??

Rolling Bones · Nov 19, 2004, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I got busted getting a BJ between the lockers in High School.

We never really got into trouble for it other than a "Good talking to" about STDs and pregnancy.

I was a bad seed in high school.

You've had sex? Wait, that doesn't count.

Shaddim · Nov 19, 2004, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by Rolling Bones:
You've had sex? Wait, that doesn't count.

Sure it does, he's not a Democrat.

Zimphire · Nov 19, 2004, 10:09 PM

Originally posted by MacNStein:
Sure it does, he's not a Democrat.

ZIIIIIIIIING.

Spliffdaddy · Nov 19, 2004, 10:17 PM

Nutso or not, at least he isn't calling for jihad against Westerners.

ironknee · Nov 19, 2004, 10:23 PM

Originally posted by Sherwin:
Don't provoke him Zimph - he sounds tough.

yeah my knees are made of iron

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Naw not really provoking.

Me and my older brother used to fight all the time. But that stopped when I started getting bigger than him for some reason...

Never been into a "fight" with another person. Never had a reason to. It's silly.

hey i wasn't saying i was...i'm too old.

i'm sure this is not the only board where your posts fustrate many people, including me...it was a joke man...

wang_himself · Nov 19, 2004, 10:52 PM

Exhibit B:

Why religion is bad

Zimphire · Nov 19, 2004, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by ironknee:
\i'm sure this is not the only board where your posts fustrate many people, including me...it was a joke man...

Frustrate? Am I that hard to understand?

And no, this is the only forum that really makes a big deal about me.

*shrug*

Shaddim · Nov 19, 2004, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
ZIIIIIIIIING.

thankya... thankya very much.

storer · Nov 19, 2004, 11:54 PM

Originally posted by CD Hanks:
I'm sure this was a dream come true for most of the student population there.

My first thought too.