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Seagate 100GB 7200RPM drive announced
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legionare
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Jun 10, 2004, 11:57 AM
 
Spotted on xlr8yourmac.com:

"Seagate announces new hard drives (up to 500GB desktop, 100GB/7200rpm notebook) - PCworld has an article on Seagate showing new drives that mentions DB35 (IDE/SATA) series desktop 7200rpm models up to 400GB, new Cheetah SCSI drives up to 300GB and a Fiber channel 7200rpm drive with up to 500GB capacity. A SATA version of the 500GB drive to be released in 2005 they say.
The article also mentions notebook drives up to 100GB (5400rpm and 7200rpm models) - all said to ship later this year. A quick scan of Seagate's website news listings didn't find any PR on these drives yet however.
(Hitachi also has a 400GB IDE/SATA drive and Toshiba previously announced a 100GB 2.5" (notebook) hard drive, but it was a 4200rpm model.)"

http://pcwnl.pcworld.com/t/116844/8325875/515656/0/
     
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Jun 11, 2004, 01:26 AM
 
"For the notebook PC sector, the company announced the Momentus 5400.2 and Momentus 7200.1 products. The former are 5400 rpm ATA drives intended for use in mainstream notebooks and the latter are 7200 rpm ATA and Serial ATA drives aimed at workstation-class machines. Both are available in 60GB, 80GB, and 100GB capacities. The slower drives will be available in the third quarter and the faster drives in the fourth quarter."

100 MB 5400 rpm drives by Aug?, 7200 rpm drives for Christmas.

With Toshiba announcing 60GB drives for the iPOD and still no 7200 rpm 80GB 2.5" drives, I've been waiting for another HD vendor to pick up the obvious need for faster, big notebook drives.

I hope the new drives are not too power hungry!
     
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Jun 13, 2004, 02:50 AM
 
That's great news!

I hope it will be a BTO option on my Rev A G5 17!!

I love my 60GB 7200.
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Jun 13, 2004, 03:11 PM
 
Fantastic news--but I hope we don't have to wait until Christmas for a 100gb 7200rpm drive.
     
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Jun 14, 2004, 02:21 AM
 
Nice to see that Seagate's trying to become competitive in the mobile storage business as it's been dominated by Hitachi/IBM and Toshiba for quite some time.

I had stuck with IBM's DeskStar (DeathStar) series for years before they started to have severe QC problems, at which point they just sold it off to Hitachi. The TravelStar drives are still quite good, but I'd like to see what Seagate can offer--for desktop drives, Seagate's are the way to go.

As I drive around, I'm starting to see billboards for Samsung hard drives. Anyone have any positive or negative experiences with them?
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Oct 30, 2004, 06:50 AM
 
Some updates for the Seagate Momentus 7200.1

Press Release (html)

Product Information (pdf)

Photo (1.96 MB, zipped tiff)
Photo (592 KB, jpg)

Release looks like January 2005 now.
     
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Oct 30, 2004, 03:15 PM
 
They even shipped some boxes -- but with only 5400 rpm drives inside -- to Best Buy!

(story on xlr8yourmac.com)

I really like my 60 GB 7200 HD, it's a real shame the 100GB versions have taken so long to ship.
     
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Oct 30, 2004, 06:31 PM
 
'bout damn time!

Now apple BETTER have these suckers available for the next powerbooks or I'm gonna be mad.
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Oct 30, 2004, 08:07 PM
 
Originally posted by Link:
'bout damn time!

Now apple BETTER have these suckers available for the next powerbooks or I'm gonna be mad.
BTO only. They'll never offer by default unless it's very low power. The next top of the range Powerbook will most likely have a default 80GB 5400RPM drive which is excellent for most. It would be a crime not to have an ATI 9800 Mobility to keep up with CPU and HD advances. I'm still waiting for my dream config to run Tiger and Final Cut HD.

2Ghz G4 or G5.
9800 Mobility 256MB
100GB 7200RPM HD
1GB memory
1920x1200 res. 17" screen.

All default spec with no BTO! That would teach Dell and Sony a lesson. The best OS and up to date hardware.
     
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Oct 30, 2004, 11:41 PM
 
Originally posted by RonnieoftheRose:
BTO only. They'll never offer by default unless it's very low power. The next top of the range Powerbook will most likely have a default 80GB 5400RPM drive which is excellent for most. It would be a crime not to have an ATI 9800 Mobility to keep up with CPU and HD advances.
I just want better speakers, a 9800, and a 100gb *drool* 7200rpm drive
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Nov 3, 2004, 03:48 AM
 
that 2 ghz, 100gb, etc sounds good for the next pb, i hope it comes out SOON.
     
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Nov 3, 2004, 06:17 AM
 
Maybe this'll sound like a "looser-question", but what do BTO stand for?
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Nov 3, 2004, 07:28 AM
 
BTO=Built to order.
     
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thanks
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Nov 3, 2004, 09:45 AM
 
The last time I checked, Apple did not offer any 7200 rpm HDs, BTO or otherwise.

I really do not understand the power issue -- my battery actually lasts LONGER after swapping the Apple stock 4200 rpm 60 GB drive for this 60 GB 7200 rpm HD.

Apple has always cut corners on hard drives and RAM. No way they will offer ANY PB with 1 GB standard.

And as for me, I am very pleasantly surprised at how helpful going from 1 GB to 2GB for RAM in this PB 17, if you are dreaming, add an extra gig...
     
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Nov 3, 2004, 11:25 AM
 
I'm so tempted to buy the 100GB drive when it is released, but I have to keep my self control and wait incase the drive has problems, but boy I really don't wanna wait. I could finally have all my iPod playlists on my PB without worrying about storage.
NOW YOU SEE ME! 2.4 MBP and 2.0 MBP (running ubuntu)
     
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Dec 11, 2004, 07:53 PM
 
Just installed the 5400 RPM Seagate Momentus 100 Gb drive in my PB 12 Aluminum. The 7200 RPM shouldn't be any harder once it gets released. First, I put the drive into an external 2.5 inch drive case and used Carbon Copy Cloner to transfer all the data from my old 80 Gb 4200 RPM Toshiba drive onto the new one.

The actual physical install took about an hour. It's an easier job than putting a drive in an iBook, but definitely tougher than a Titanium. Followed the guide at http://macs.about.com/gi/dynamic/off...%2F53.0.0.html
Be patient and keep track of all the screws. For the screws on the top, I used my old trick for working inside iBooks. I Scotch tape each screw next to the hole from which it was removed. Makes it trivial to keep track of little screws and where they go even when there are dozens.

Nice to have space again.
     
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Dec 11, 2004, 08:12 PM
 
Originally posted by Guy Kuo:
Just installed the 5400 RPM Seagate Momentus 100 Gb drive in my PB 12 Aluminum. The 7200 RPM shouldn't be any harder once it gets released. First, I put the drive into an external 2.5 inch drive case and used Carbon Copy Cloner to transfer all the data from my old 80 Gb 4200 RPM Toshiba drive onto the new one.

The actual physical install took about an hour. It's an easier job than putting a drive in an iBook, but definitely tougher than a Titanium. Followed the guide at http://macs.about.com/gi/dynamic/off...%2F53.0.0.html
Be patient and keep track of all the screws. For the screws on the top, I used my old trick for working inside iBooks. I Scotch tape each screw next to the hole from which it was removed. Makes it trivial to keep track of little screws and where they go even when there are dozens.

Nice to have space again.
How's the noise and heat level compared to your stock HD? I'm really anxious to get one too, but haven't found any canadian retailer carrying it yet.
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Dec 11, 2004, 08:19 PM
 
I haven't notice any difference in heat or noise level, but remember this is the 5200 RPM version not the 7200.

Macbench results comparing old and new drives in my PB 12 AL.


TOSHIBA 4200 RMP 80 GB MK8025GAS
Disk Test 29.23
Sequential 21.35
Uncached Write 11.07 4.62 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 32.45 13.29 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 29.28 4.64 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 31.14 12.58 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 46.37
Uncached Write 44.44 0.67 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 48.24 10.88 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 53.08 0.35 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 41.34 8.51 MB/sec [256K blocks]



Seagate Momentus 100 GB 5400 RPM ST9100823A
Disk Test 61.67
Sequential 66.59
Uncached Write 46.39 19.34 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 59.02 24.17 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 152.35 24.12 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 66.63 26.92 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 57.42
Uncached Write 40.30 0.60 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 58.62 13.22 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 71.77 0.47 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 72.21 14.86 MB/sec [256K blocks]


Can you imagine what the 7200 RPM would do?
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Jan 14, 2005, 10:11 PM
 
Update: The Seagate Momentus 7200.1 release looks to be around April 2005 now. No price indicated yet.

Source: Seagate Pre Sales.
     
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Jan 14, 2005, 11:05 PM
 
a g5 would be nice with the 9800 at 8x. sata 2 would also help speed things up. Oh yea and now that bt 2.0 is out and 802.11n it will all fit right in.
     
   
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