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Jul 1, 2015, 11:40 PM
 
So... how's about that scene in the church?
     
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Jul 2, 2015, 02:20 AM
 
Brutal. Loved every minute though.
     
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Jul 2, 2015, 03:27 AM
 
Church scene just fantastic.

Last scene. Not so much.
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Jul 2, 2015, 09:39 AM
 
Yeah, some good scenes in the movie. Overall there was a good movie in there somewhere but it didn't make it out.
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Jul 2, 2015, 11:49 AM
 
I'm a little "meh" myself.

Firth was so good, and the kid was just an annoying shit.

And, unlike the kid, I've seen La Femme Nikita, so the mind**** training is a little played out.

And then the church... loved that scene. Had seen it on its own beforehand.

Best scene in the movie, but also felt out of place somehow.
     
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Jul 2, 2015, 11:50 AM
 
Originally Posted by Doc HM View Post
Church scene just fantastic.

Last scene. Not so much.
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Jul 2, 2015, 12:08 PM
 
Looking forward to whenever this hits netflix.
     
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Jul 2, 2015, 12:14 PM
 
It really is Kill Bill meets Moonraker, which makes it a shame a couple cylinders aren't firing properly.
     
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Jul 2, 2015, 12:17 PM
 
Moonraker? Can't say I've seen it in more than 20 years, but I don't have a good opinion of it.
     
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Jul 2, 2015, 12:19 PM
 
It's crazy how each movie has to outdo previous ones to retain shock value. I remember the building scene in the Matrix was pretty gnarly but the church one here takes the cake. Imagine what scenes will be like 20 years from now...
     
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Jul 2, 2015, 12:40 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Moonraker? Can't say I've seen it in more than 20 years, but I don't have a good opinion of it.
I'm picking Moonraker because it was the one closest to being self parody.

It's Kill Bill in the Moonraker universe. You know, the type of universe where stealing six Space Shuttles makes total sense.
     
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Jul 2, 2015, 01:18 PM
 
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It's crazy how each movie has to outdo previous ones to retain shock value. I remember the building scene in the Matrix was pretty gnarly but the church one here takes the cake. Imagine what scenes will be like 20 years from now...
That was one of the problems with View to a Kill. It couldn't top Moonraker in the silly department.

I kinda liked they hit the reset with Dalton, who I think (like Lazenby) tried to be Bond, rather than a pimped-up version of themselves, which is what you got with Connery, Moore, and Brosnan.

Haven't seen a Craig vehicle yet.
     
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Jul 2, 2015, 01:23 PM
 
I rather enjoyed the movie. The church scene was pretty awesome.

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Jul 4, 2015, 03:03 AM
 
The heads were pretty much in line with tie cut in half thing from the beginning. Lots of the movie felt like a grown up Spy Kids.

But yes the final final scene. Horrendously misjudged.
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Jul 4, 2015, 03:05 AM
 
Not nearly the film Kick Ass was but better then Kick Ass 2. A lot better. I didn't find eggs that annoying but Firth was sublime.
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Jul 4, 2015, 09:57 AM
 
I got to the end being more aware of my "how did this get made the way it has been?" rather than how good it was, then I spotted the names of a couple of 2000AD regulars in the credits listed as creators and it all made considerably more sense.

Good fun though, and fairly typical of the sort of Bond parody I'd expect in an issue of 2000AD.
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Jul 4, 2015, 11:36 AM
 
Originally Posted by Doc HM View Post
The heads were pretty much in line with tie cut in half thing from the beginning. Lots of the movie felt like a grown up Spy Kids.

But yes the final final scene. Horrendously misjudged.
I know I just saw it, but what scene are you talking about?
     
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Jul 4, 2015, 01:51 PM
 
The sign off scene. In the cell. With the Danish Princess. THAT scene.
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Jul 4, 2015, 02:02 PM
 
Okay... that's what I thought.

Agree 100%. Horrible.
     
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Jul 4, 2015, 08:02 PM
 
I didn't have a problem with it, just didn't really fit in with the style of the rest of the movie. I'm guessing it fitted in with the style of the graphic novel or whatever it was based on.
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Jul 4, 2015, 08:37 PM
 
I'm curious how much of my opinion is based on having seen the Church scene first.
     
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Also...

 
     
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Jul 5, 2015, 10:56 AM
 
It just felt a bit unnecessary to the plot. It wasn't organic.
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Jul 5, 2015, 01:15 PM
 
I felt the whole training portion (i.e. one-third of the whole movie), only functioned to setup the schmuck kid getting fired.

However, maybe you're talking about the butt.
     
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Jul 5, 2015, 04:18 PM
 
I am. But also the whole grateful princess bit. He was going to save the world anyway, it would have fit better if he'd been portrayed as more of a ladies man earlier on. Or as the opposite so the motivation might have helped.
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Jul 6, 2015, 12:08 AM
 
I vote for eliminating that scene.

And the kid.

I want all Colin Firth.
     
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Jul 6, 2015, 04:22 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
I want Colin Firth.
Its Bridget Jones all over again.
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Jul 6, 2015, 06:20 AM
 
Yes but the suit IS very very cool.
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Jul 6, 2015, 11:52 AM
 
I tried watching it on the airplane last week, got about 45 minutes in and couldn't finish it, watched 30 Rock reruns instead.

Once they started training and dove right into the boring, tired teenager drama with snobby rich kids making fun of poor kids and the sympathetic female character...I couldn't do it. It felt too much like a grown up Spy Kids (nice, Doc HM) meant to appeal to same terrible demographic as Divergent or Maze Runner than an actual action movie.
     
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Jul 6, 2015, 01:36 PM
 
Exactly.

Since this movie was my suggestion, when the training scenes came on I felt embarrassed for the choice.

But wait... 45 minutes... You missed the church scene.

Knock yourself out. Excessively NSFW, and all the better for it (sorry for the Korean, takedowns don'tcha know).

 



Edit: TAKEDOWN!
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Jul 6, 2015, 05:38 PM
 
Proper 2000AD-style ultra violence.
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Jul 6, 2015, 06:54 PM
 
The best part of seeing the movie was releasing me to watch this scene a half-dozen times in a row.
     
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Jul 7, 2015, 07:26 AM
 
The CGI seems low budget and the transitions where they try and pretend it's a single-shot are obvious.

I prefer Kung Fury.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5P_LAqiVg
     
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Jul 7, 2015, 07:28 AM
 
Since one of the Kingsmens' skills is knowing fine liquor, part of the training montage should have been them getting ********d from too many samples.

Every single night.


Edit: shit faced... shitfac ed... ********d... sure thing SeƱor Sensor.
     
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Jul 7, 2015, 07:29 AM
 
Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
The CGI seems low budget and the transitions where they try and pretend it's a single-shot are obvious.

I prefer Kung Fury.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bS5P_LAqiVg
Question...

Kinda want to see this movie. Hold off on watching this clip?
     
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Jul 7, 2015, 10:22 AM
 
That's the full movie, as supported by a Kickstarter. They're in talks about making a full-length feature inspired by this, but the YouTube is the real, official, full thing.
     
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Jul 7, 2015, 10:25 AM
 
Good deal! Thanks!
     
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Jul 7, 2015, 11:28 AM
 
Not to overlook the "Manners maketh man" scene. Also cool because it takes down Firth's Bridget Jones persona straight away.

The retread by Eggsy at the end simply reinforces how damn cool Firth is.
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Jul 7, 2015, 11:43 AM
 
Yup.
     
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Sep 27, 2015, 03:08 PM
 
There's talk of a sequel, and it appears they realize the butter is on the Colin Firth side of the toast.
     
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Sep 30, 2015, 02:24 PM
 
Recently saw on DVD. Enjoyed it a lot, helloooo colin firth. Even the training bit, although I suspected trickery the minute they introduced the pups. The kid didn't bother me, kind of liked him, and the other female operative. Sam Jackson playing a hep Zuckerberg... semi annoying? but also heh. The end bit was a recognized rip on Bond endings, but it was a groaner. Otherwise this film did not set off any sexist alerts that weren't also genre-parody.

A sequel? not without Firth... which could be difficult, considering the Church scene. AFAICT, he was playing as his actual age, which makes a prequel also difficult.
     
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Sep 30, 2015, 02:50 PM
 
My understanding is they plan to come up with a comic book logic type excuse to bring him back.
     
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Emergency brain transplant.
     
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Sep 30, 2015, 05:38 PM
 
Android Colin Firth.

Cloning. (as long as it doesn't involve creepy retro-unaging Firth like Tommy Lee Jones in MIBIII)

Dream flashbacks.
     
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Oct 5, 2015, 11:13 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
My understanding is they plan to come up with a comic book logic type excuse to bring him back.
Like setting the movie before the events of the first one?
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Oct 5, 2015, 01:29 PM
 
I'm game for that, but then you lose the kid.

I want them to go that way, but am afraid it's too much to ask.
     
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Again, a prequel requires making a younger colin firth. Do we have the technology?
     
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Oct 5, 2015, 03:27 PM
 
He was "younger" in Afghanistan at the beginning.
     
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Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
Again, a prequel requires making a younger colin firth. Do we have the technology?
We do, but in a movie with overtop violence, age is what violates your suspension of disbelief?
     
 
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