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Oct 16, 2003, 07:18 AM
 
Does anyone know if when Expose is activated it show all the windows on the system, or just those currently on the desktop?

I have been told it doesnt show windows from apps that are hidden. Which would be a shame.
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Oct 16, 2003, 07:28 AM
 
It only shows visible windows.
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Oct 16, 2003, 07:57 AM
 
Expose is quickly becoming the new MAC.

It's Expos�. It's NOT hard to write

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Oct 16, 2003, 08:04 AM
 
To me, it doesn't make sense to show "Hidden" windows...if a user has already made a window hidden himself, then why the need to show it through this feature? If you want to see the window, along with all your other open windows, then don't hide them!
     
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Oct 16, 2003, 08:22 AM
 
Originally posted by gorickey:
To me, it doesn't make sense to show "Hidden" windows...if a user has already made a window hidden himself, then why the need to show it through this feature? If you want to see the window, along with all your other open windows, then don't hide them!
It DOES make sense if you've got progress bars running in those windows, since unhidden progress bars will suck CPU power on a G3 like Debbie sucks willie in Dallas.

Minor inconvenience, though. Just click the Dock like in the Olden Days.

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Oct 16, 2003, 08:45 AM
 
Originally posted by - - e r i k - -:
Expose is quickly becoming the new MAC.

It's Expos�. It's NOT hard to write
What is the keyboard shortcut for it? My keyboard is set up for US English, although I do have the Canadian English option available from the menu bar.

Anyways, "MAC" has no reason for it, but "Expose" is because many of us don't know how to do the "e avec accent aigu", without wasting too much time.
     
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Oct 16, 2003, 08:47 AM
 
Originally posted by Eug:
What is the keyboard shortcut for it? My keyboard is set up for US English, although I do have the Canadian English option available from the menu bar.

Anyways, "MAC" has no reason for it, but "Expose" is because many of us don't know how to do the "e avec accent aigu", without wasting too much time.
Hit "Option+E"...and then the letter you want to have the accent...

     
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Oct 16, 2003, 09:32 AM
 
Originally posted by - - e r i k - -:
Expose is quickly becoming the new MAC.

It's Expos�. It's NOT hard to write
At least I suppose that nobody will write "EXPOS�"

Seriously I don't think that you will be able to convince people to use "option-E + e" instead of "e". (but I'm with you!)
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Oct 16, 2003, 09:33 AM
 
Originally posted by gorickey:
Hit "Option+E"...and then the letter you want to have the accent...

�x

Hmmm....
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Oct 16, 2003, 09:35 AM
 
I think he just forgot to mention that you can only accent vowels.

� � � � �
     
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Oct 16, 2003, 09:50 AM
 
Originally posted by noliv:
At least I suppose that nobody will write "EXPOS�"
BTW, you're not supposed to use French accents with capitals right?
     
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Oct 16, 2003, 10:20 AM
 
Originally posted by Eug:
What is the keyboard shortcut for it? My keyboard is set up for US English, although I do have the Canadian English option available from the menu bar.

Anyways, "MAC" has no reason for it, but "Expose" is because many of us don't know how to do the "e avec accent aigu", without wasting too much time.
Option-e = � on any keyboard. Although I use � and then type e. See type � and Mac OS X puts up a yellow background to show that if you type a vowel next, it will accent it. Neat, huh?

Expos� and expose are two widely different words. If you do the latter you could be taken as a pervert

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Oct 16, 2003, 10:31 AM
 
Originally posted by Eug:
BTW, you're not supposed to use French accents with capitals right?
Lots of people don't do it but we are supposed to use accents with capitals. This makes sense because accents change the meaning of words. The typical example in books about typographie is:
UN HOMME TUE PENDANT UN HOLD-UP
UN HOMME TU� PENDANT UN HOLD-UP
in the first line, the man is killed, in the second line, he is the murderer...

We don't learn this at school (and teachers wouldn't say the same things...) the true rule used in books, newspapers etc. is: "Always put accents or never put accents with capitals" just choose one way
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Oct 16, 2003, 11:49 AM
 
Since this is the web, you could also use HTML entities. For example, & eacute;, & acirc;, and so on (remove the space after the &).

Exposé.
     
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Oct 16, 2003, 11:55 AM
 
Originally posted by Eug:
BTW, you're not supposed to use French accents with capitals right?
why is it there then?

If you have Expos�, you have 10.3. look in the edit menu in the finder, there is a 'special caracters' palette now!
     
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Oct 16, 2003, 05:35 PM
 
Originally posted by - - e r i k - -:
Expose is quickly becoming the new MAC.

It's Expos�. It's NOT hard to write
HAHA.. why does it matter? you know what they mean.. Plus, it is actually "that hard" to write unless you know that strange combination of keys necessary to acheive the "�"..
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Oct 16, 2003, 06:15 PM
 
Originally posted by noliv:

UN HOMME TUE PENDANT UN HOLD-UP
UN HOMME TU� PENDANT UN HOLD-UP
in the first line, the man is killed, in the second line, he is the murderer...

We don't learn this at school (and teachers wouldn't say the same things...)
Umm, sorry but the man is the killer both times isn't he? It's just that the first sentence is present tense, and the second is past tense.

A man kills during a hold up
A man killed during a hold up

You're from France, and I'm not, so please explain if I'm wrong...but I don't think I am!
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Oct 16, 2003, 06:39 PM
 
Originally posted by mikemako:
HAHA.. why does it matter? you know what they mean.. Plus, it is actually "that hard" to write unless you know that strange combination of keys necessary to acheive the "�"..
It's two different words!!

One is revealing [the facts] the other has a definition meaning "indecent exposure of oneself". Great.

And alt+e is no harder than shift+e you nit!

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Oct 16, 2003, 07:35 PM
 
wow....

i always copied paste that letter....


i don't think expos� is the same as MAC. i genuinely didn't know the "e" thing. i actually looked it up but my quark book doesn't show you how to make it come out and i never had to release a key command and press another key to make a symbol � so in other words: i think it's a tricky key combo and not everybody is gonna know it or know how to do it correctly.



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Oct 17, 2003, 06:08 AM
 
Originally posted by Geobunny:
Umm, sorry but the man is the killer both times isn't he? It's just that the first sentence is present tense, and the second is past tense.

A man kills during a hold up
A man killed during a hold up

You're from France, and I'm not, so please explain if I'm wrong...but I don't think I am!
err... you're wrong my bad; it was a stupid example since it is not a complete sentence... i would say that it could be a newspaper headline:

A man kills during a hold up = Un homme tue pendant un hold-up
A man killed during a hold up = Un homme a tu� pendant un hold-up
A man has been killed during a hold up = Un homme (a �t�) tu� pendant un hold-up

...the point was that the meaning really changes when you forget to put the accent...

better examples?
ILLUSTRE=famous
ILLUSTR�=illustrated

JE SUIS INTERNE DANS UN HOPITAL PSYCHIATRIQUE ~= I work in a psychiatric hospital
JE SUIS INTERN� DANS UN HOPITAL PSYCHIATRIQUE ~= I am held in a psychiatric hospital

(Approximative translations... writing in English is not so easy for me )
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Oct 17, 2003, 06:49 AM
 
Originally posted by kcmac:
That's Spanish, not French

However, French do use inverted accents as well, like �, which Spanish don't.

I think that the only language that uses the n with tilde, �, is Spanish.

And well, for the record I really don't mind if they write Expose, Expos�, or whatever they like.... what I am really annoyed at is the lack of features for non-USA residents. Showing that Jobs likes French words is not enough.
     
   
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