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NYGEO18
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Nov 6, 2004, 03:16 PM
 
Is it worth upgrading a 450mhz G4 to Panther from classic? Is 450mhz too slow for panther?
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Nov 6, 2004, 03:30 PM
 
Well it really depends on what you are doing, but the 450mhz G4 should handle Panther pretty well (it will be a bit slower than OS 9 though). You'll have access to all new Mac OS X only apps, iPhoto, Keynote, etc...
     
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Nov 6, 2004, 04:28 PM
 
I've got a 450 G4, and I can tell you that it works fine. You might want to put in a better video card so you can get Quartz Extreme (and CoreImage when Tiger is released). Most modern cards should be able to handle Quartz Extreme - the nVidia GeForce 5200FX is derided a lot on these boards, but would actually be perfectly sufficient. Of course, you can get by without Quartz Extreme, but it's nice to have as it makes effects like Exposé smoother.

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Nov 6, 2004, 04:39 PM
 
I have a G4 sawtooth (400 Mhz) running 10.3 with no problem. It can file serve, web serve, run multiple users just fine. Office, iApps work well.

Increased memory (up to 512mb) will significantly improve performance.

I have upgraded the drive to 40 gig. Personally I would like to also like to upgrade the CPU to a GHz since these are relatively cheap (~$220).
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Nov 6, 2004, 07:43 PM
 
I recently handed down a Cube 450 to my daughter, with 10.3 installed. It's chugging along just fine. I'd been running OS X on it since 10.1, and each iteration got speedier, as Apple refined it. There are some apps that are going to be sluggish to unusable on a 450, like iPhoto and Garage Band, but in general, there's just no reason not to upgrade it.

Load 'er up with RAM though, if you haven't already. Minimum 512 mb, better yet 768 MB or 1 GB. (a sawtooth'll hold up to 2 GB) Also, if you don't have a vid card with at least 32 MB of VRAM, you might consider getting one, since some of the interface goodies are disabled without one.

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Nov 8, 2004, 08:56 AM
 
Originally posted by NYGEO18:
Is it worth upgrading a 450mhz G4 to Panther from classic? Is 450mhz too slow for panther?
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We have it running on a 350MHz b/w G3 Powermac with 768 RAM and a 7200rpm disk.
Runs great.
     
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Nov 8, 2004, 09:23 AM
 
Originally posted by NYGEO18:
Is it worth upgrading a 450mhz G4 to Panther from classic? Is 450mhz too slow for panther?
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The stability alone is worth it. You will lose some of the snappyness of OS9 but it sure is worth it. Besides, OS9 really is dead.
     
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Nov 8, 2004, 11:47 AM
 
I own and work on a cube 400 with lots of memory and new HD and a TiPB 400 also HP upgraded and 10.3 runs as fast as OS 9 used too, but with great stability and better apps.
-original iMac, TiPB 400, Cube, Macbook (black), iMac 24¨, plus the original iPod and a black nano 4GB-
     
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Nov 8, 2004, 05:53 PM
 
Originally posted by cenutrio:
I own and work on a cube 400 with lots of memory and new HD and a TiPB 400 also HP upgraded and 10.3 runs as fast as OS 9 used too, but with great stability and better apps.
A Cube 400? No such beast...Cubes came in either 450MHz or 500MHz varieties.

I have a 450MHz Cube with 512MB RAM, and it runs Panther quite nicely. Some stuff, like GarageBand, is a bit sluggish, but overall it's a nice setup. (probably still going to upgrade to an iMac G5 after playing with one at the Apple Store the other day, though)
     
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Nov 8, 2004, 07:12 PM
 
I recently installed Panther on my parents G3 400 MHz iMac with 192 MB RAM. They only use it for the most basic stuff like word processing, email and web browsing but it handles 10.3 just well. Your G4 will obviously handle it better. If your computer is now fast enough for you, it also will be under Panther.
     
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Nov 8, 2004, 08:19 PM
 
I run Mac OS X server on a B&W G3 300 with 256 mb of ram. Runs fine.
B&W G3/300 OS X 10.3 Server
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Nov 9, 2004, 12:52 PM
 
Originally posted by MacAttack:
A Cube 400? No such beast...
Mental lapsus...a cube 450
-original iMac, TiPB 400, Cube, Macbook (black), iMac 24¨, plus the original iPod and a black nano 4GB-
     
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Nov 9, 2004, 02:36 PM
 
I'm using a G4 400 sawtooth and Panther.
Great combination (mind you, OS 9 is more responsive, but I haven't had a crash since upgrading to OS X!)
     
   
 
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