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GENERAL_SMILEY · May 5, 2003, 04:58 PM

Don't know why, but I thought some of you might be interested in these.

"[The first benchmarks were done during March 2003 on a preview model running at 1.4 GHz. OS was an alpha version 7B5 and 7B8 of Panther, optimised for 64 bits processor, but the applications tested were only using 32 bits.]"

Some photoshop benches for the more graphic ones amongst us.

"[The second series of benchmarks were done on the same computers that will be sold. There is however a doubt on the presence of the up-market dual 2.0 GHz as the availability of these chips isn't sure. It seems Apple will surely be able to sell Mono 1.4 GHz, Dual 1.6 and Dual 1.8.]"

Anyway these aren't my results, they're from here along with the quotes, no I save my beta copy of Panther running on my pre-production Dual PPC970 for running Escape Velocity.

gorickey · May 5, 2003, 05:12 PM

From MacRumors.com:

"One reader notes that the graph times for the PPC G4 Dual 1.42 and Pentium IV 3GHz are identical to old benchmarks posted at Barefeats. Barefeats appears to use their own test suites rather than any standard suites, making these numbers appear suspicious."

GENERAL_SMILEY · May 5, 2003, 05:38 PM

Oh come on... It's worth at least a little bit of enthusiasm.

Eug · May 5, 2003, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by GENERAL_SMILEY:
Oh come on... It's worth at least a little bit of enthusiasm.

It's also the third thread, too.

GENERAL_SMILEY · May 5, 2003, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by Eug:
It's also the third thread, too.

Oops, well it was news to me...

Apologies.

MindFad · May 5, 2003, 09:20 PM

What the hell is that slimey wet stuff in my pants? Oh, right....

gorickey · May 5, 2003, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by MindFad:
What the hell is that slimey wet stuff in my pants? Oh, right....

Tell us, what is it? Did you lick it up?

MindFad · May 5, 2003, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:
Tell us, what is it? Did you lick it up?

Pfft, well, not yet. I'm about to have another turkey sandwich....

Blech, OK, I'll stop. I apologize.

beb · May 5, 2003, 09:56 PM

::sets down peace pipe::

Whoa!

::goes back to smokin::

brainchild2b · May 5, 2003, 10:18 PM

Wait a second. Was the 3ghz p4 even out in march? Was it even available to test with? Apple may have access to internal processors though...

theory · May 5, 2003, 10:21 PM

Call me sceptical but i find hard to
belive that apple has already got 64 Bit
Mac OS X before IBM officialy releases the
970.

beb · May 5, 2003, 10:33 PM

They have alpha builds of 64 bit Panther. Insofar as 970s are concerned, I betcha Apple had an ever-increasing amount of samples all the way back to late 2001.

::I like smoke dammit!::

theory · May 5, 2003, 10:38 PM

Not that I don't belive you but where
did you find out that apple has 64Bit panther (don't tell me mac rumors

).

Truepop · May 5, 2003, 10:45 PM

I don't believe any of this.

just my 2 cents.

OptimusG4 · May 5, 2003, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by beb:
::sets down peace pipe::

Whoa!

::goes back to smokin::

pass pass puff puff

holy crap thats awesome

beb · May 6, 2003, 12:13 AM

Originally posted by theory:
Not that I don't belive you but where
did you find out that apple has 64Bit panther (don't tell me mac rumors ).

Well my girlfriend's sister's cousin's aunt's friend's brother in law's son who is married to that bitch's friend's father's current mistress's hairdresser's priest heard it in a conversation with a higher power.

So I guess that means even the Almighty thinks it's cool. I kinda wonder if he gets to log in as root.

Don't ask, just pass the matches.

BkueKanoodle · May 6, 2003, 12:30 AM

Not to mention that thiis benchmarking is hopelessly slanted towards the 970.

Try comparing a preproduction 970 thats due out sometime late this year early next with an intel processor in the same stage of development. By the time the 970 comes out, Intel Will be at 4ghz. Furthermore if you're gonna compare DP systems, compare an Intel DP and a 970 DP>

I'm not a mac hater, I love my PB more then anything, but don't let apple zealotry blind you to the inadequacies of this comparison.

Looking at the second chart. I wonder why they didn't compare a single processor top of the line g4 to a single processor P4. Ummm maybe because it would get its a** kicked by the Intel?

Pierre B. · May 6, 2003, 04:22 AM

Originally posted by BkueKanoodle:
By the time the 970 comes out, Intel Will be at 4ghz.

Let me put that in serious doubt.

I'm not a mac hater, I love my PB more then anything, but don't let apple zealotry blind you to the inadequacies of this comparison.

I agree.

JLL · May 6, 2003, 04:40 AM

Originally posted by theory:
Call me sceptical but i find hard to
belive that apple has already got 64 Bit
Mac OS X before IBM officialy releases the
970.

Huh? Panther is supposed to support 64-bit processors and Apple will preview Panther in six weeks - when do you think they would start coding the damn thing?

IBM has been working on the 970 for a long time, and they had prototype blade servers on CeBIT.

Apple doesn't have to wait for a final chip to start making an OS that supports it.

voodoo · May 6, 2003, 06:06 AM

Bryce 5 dual?

Guy Incognito 2 · May 6, 2003, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by voodoo:

Bryce 5 dual?

MacBidouille is now saying that a super secret beta of Bryce 6 was used. Can anyone confirm that Hotline and P2P networks have this beta version...and can anyone confirm that it supports dual processors?

godzookie2k · May 6, 2003, 07:12 AM

also, in the cinema4dXL stats, the top bar, he/she/it misspells 'dual' as 'duel'.

sandsl · May 6, 2003, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by godzookie2k:
also, in the cinema4dXL stats, the top bar, he/she/it misspells 'dual' as 'duel'.

its from a french site

SMacTech · May 6, 2003, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by godzookie2k:
also, in the cinema4dXL stats, the top bar, he/she/it misspells 'dual' as 'duel'.

Pass me the secondes too!

theory · May 6, 2003, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by JLL:
Huh? Panther is supposed to support 64-bit processors and Apple will preview Panther in six weeks - when do you think they would start coding the damn thing?

Still my question still remains unanswered. What are your sources? Or is this just a guess?
Speculation is all nice and cool but it
would be good if we can seperate fact from fiction

.

jock · May 7, 2003, 04:19 AM

Concidering that Steve, yes that Steve said in his iTunes speech that they had been working on it for a year and a half, its not impossible that they already have a 64 bit version of X. given that they updated the emac today, so nearly all g4 machines are at a gig minimum there has to be a huge jump to make people want to buy the towers. Would like to see if the bryce thing is true though, anybody have info on version 6?

Tyre MacAdmin · May 7, 2003, 07:28 AM

Somebody please prove to me these benchmarks are real... bc for them to be real, you'd need a motherboard that works with a 64bit chip... and 970... I've yet to see either anywhere else...

SMacTech · May 8, 2003, 08:20 AM

Originally posted by Tyler McAdams:
Somebody please prove to me these benchmarks are real... bc for them to be real, you'd need a motherboard that works with a 64bit chip... and 970... I've yet to see either anywhere else...

Just because you haven't seen a PPC970 mobo doesn't mean they don't exist. It is a big world you know.