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Oct 27, 2014, 11:48 AM
 
Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
liberal politicians with their upside down morals
Posts including things like this don't help you much in the laughing stock stakes.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Oct 27, 2014, 01:44 PM
 
Like you would notice?
     
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Oct 27, 2014, 02:18 PM
 
So they are going to let that non-symptomatic nurse go home.

Despite the science saying she wasn't dangerous, I think I'd be ok with quarantine measures such as hers if they also weren't such jerks about it. It's telling that a TSA rep with no medical experience wielding an inaccurate forehead thermometer trumps the medical experience of the nurse who's just spent months diagnosing and treating ebola.

Ebola and Quarantine: Editorial

"We should be honoring, not quarantining, health care workers who put their lives at risk not only to save people suffering from Ebola virus disease in West Africa but also to help achieve source control, bringing the world closer to stopping the spread of this killer epidemic."
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Oct 27, 2014, 02:22 PM
 
I have no problem putting her under mandatory home quarantine for 21 days, but putting her in an unheated tent with paper clothes and no shower is just ridiculous, with the current state of the 'outbreak'.
     
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Oct 28, 2014, 10:25 AM
 
Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post

Are you sure you aren't scared?
     
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Oct 28, 2014, 12:54 PM
 
MORE of your stereotypes? You sure are a bad judge of others. Cautious, yes. Afraid no. Not until the virus becomes airborne.
     
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Oct 29, 2014, 12:11 PM
 
I see her point, but kind of think it's pushing it at this point.

Also, Christie is an ass. "Sue me, I've been sued before."
     
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Oct 29, 2014, 12:21 PM
 
I think there's a reasonable middle-ground and I think she's blind to it because Christie's knee-jerk completely enraged her.
     
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Oct 29, 2014, 01:36 PM
 
NAd she may lose in court, because the governors do have the power.

Shes a Political hack for the CDC, but her linkdn account and her facebook pages were scrubbed this weekend.
     
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Oct 29, 2014, 01:40 PM
 
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Oct 29, 2014, 01:59 PM
 
Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
...and standard products that kill rotavirus, norovirus, and other "non-enveloped" viruses kills ebola dead. So does chlorine bleach.... It's harder to disinfect than influenza, but it's not a super bug. Gimme some bleach and a pair of gloves, and I'll show you how to deal with sneezed droplets; it's actually part of what I do in my profession.

And note that the article you cite talks about "certain strains surviving" for extended periods when stored at low temperatures. So until it gets really cold outside, just paying attention to the stuff we are ssupposed to pay attention to during cold and flu season is going to work: cover your mouth and nose when coughing or sneezing, wash hands thoroughly and frequently (not just hand sanitizer - it works best at drying out your hands), and not touching your eyes, nose or mouth after touching anything.

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Oct 30, 2014, 09:12 AM
 
So Obama is ordering the military sent to build the isolation centers to be quarantined for 21 days while later saying Health workers don't need the mandatory quarantine out of respect..... So is Obama just disrespecting the military again or is he just being an idiot again?
     
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Oct 30, 2014, 09:17 AM
 
BadKosh: I enjoy my daily chapters of "what Obama did wrong today" that you write. What will come tomorrow?
     
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Oct 30, 2014, 09:23 AM
 
Still no life, eh?
     
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Oct 30, 2014, 09:33 AM
 
Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
Still no life, eh?
Have you noticed that nobody responds to your rants but me? Are you expecting responses, or is this therapy?
     
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Oct 30, 2014, 09:34 AM
 
Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
So is Obama just disrespecting the military again or is he just being an idiot again?
If I know my fox news, it's both.
     
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Oct 30, 2014, 11:25 AM
 
Media having a field day because the nurse is still under voluntary quarantine and decided to go for a bike ride. Police followed her. This is reality.
     
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Oct 30, 2014, 01:58 PM
 
Comment I read on Globe article: "Great, now is that cop going to be under quarantine? The reporter who took her picture?"

Despite the facts that a) she's not symptomatic, b) the cop was following them by 200 yards.

You might think the police were making sure she didn't stop by starbucks and hug random people, but then more comments on the article were hoping "some tractor trailer driver swerves and hits her." So maybe they were there for her own protection too.

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Oct 30, 2014, 01:59 PM
 
Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
So maybe they were there for her own protection too.
I didn't realize that until after I posted, but yes, the police are serving a dual function in that regard.
     
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Oct 30, 2014, 02:38 PM
 
Looks likes the Gov. is gonna use all his powers due to her tantrum ride. This will be interesting for a while it seems.


On another (A-CHOO!!) subject

CDC admits droplets from a sneeze could spread Ebola | New York Post
     
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Oct 30, 2014, 02:40 PM
 
Gov. LePage needs little excuse to throw around his powers. Especially during an election.
     
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Oct 31, 2014, 11:25 AM
 
Judge issues order enforcing Ebola isolation of defiant Maine nurse | Reuters
The confrontation between the state of Maine and a nurse who treated Ebola patients in Sierra Leone heated up on Friday when a judge issued a temporary order enforcing a quarantine after she defied state officials and took a bike ride.

The order from Charles LaVerdiere, chief judge of the Maine District Court, instructs nurse Kaci Hickox to submit to "direct active monitoring," and "not to be present in public places" like shopping centers, movie theaters or workplaces except to receive necessary healthcare.

The temporary order permits her to engage in what the judge called "non-congregate public activities" like walking or jogging in the park but instructs her to maintain a 3-foot (1 meter) distance from other people.
     
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Oct 31, 2014, 12:38 PM
 
doesn't sound unreasonable
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Oct 31, 2014, 12:39 PM
 
A lot more reasonable than what essentially is house arrest.
     
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Oct 31, 2014, 01:05 PM
 
^^^

Seems reasonable. It allows the nurse freedom of movement while still accommodating the legitimate concerns of the public.

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Oct 31, 2014, 01:08 PM
 
I believe she's being monitored by health officials daily, as well, which I think is the most reasonable and prudent interference to put onto her life.
     
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Oct 31, 2014, 01:10 PM
 
She was already self-monitoring and reporting, via the instructions by the CDC and Doctors Without Borders.
     
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Oct 31, 2014, 01:13 PM
 
Another judge has put a stay on that ruling. This IS getting interesting. I wonder if the White House is orchestrating this as a change of focus from the mid-terms?
     
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Oct 31, 2014, 01:13 PM
 
Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
She was already self-monitoring and reporting, via the instructions by the CDC and Doctors Without Borders.
I think it's reasonable to want third-parties to do the monitoring.
     
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Oct 31, 2014, 01:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by BadKosh View Post
I wonder if the White House is orchestrating this as a change of focus from the mid-terms?
I lost track. Is this like conspiracy #4 for the thread?
     
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Nov 1, 2014, 05:34 AM
 
Another open border problem, NOT Ebola this time, but it does call into question the policy of open borders.

Obama's Border Policy Fueled Epidemic, Evidence Shows | The Daily Caller
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I lost track. Is this like conspiracy #4 for the thread?
It's just some humor. Its not like the Obama admin hasn't pulled stunts like this.
     
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Nov 1, 2014, 08:59 PM
 
What if all of the liberals in the mid-terms are secret illegal Mexicans?
     
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Nov 2, 2014, 07:14 AM
 
Many of their supporters are it seems. Or at least IGNORANT Liberals. Isn't that redundant?
     
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They are probably in ISIS too...
     
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Nov 11, 2014, 11:48 AM
 
The US is now Ebola free. You can cease you're freaking out now.
     
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Nov 11, 2014, 03:26 PM
 
Oh was this still a thing?

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Nov 11, 2014, 03:28 PM
 
I don't know, did a new crisis supplant it?
     
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Nov 11, 2014, 03:39 PM
 
No, that's the left-wing freakout. Cruz is a master.
     
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Nov 11, 2014, 03:42 PM
 
I didn't read the article, but do they mention the part where republicans re-propose it in a few years and say it was their idea?
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
I didn't read the article, but do they mention the part where republicans re-propose it in a few years and say it was their idea?
Maybe if an R gets int he White House. But even then, feels like we've been doing this dance sine the Bush years.
     
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The net neutrality dance, or the "not when it's the other guy" dance?
     
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Net neutrality dance.
     
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Sung by the Pointer Sisters?
     
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Men Without Hats.
     
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Definitely Men Without Hats. And the video definitely MUST have the same "little people" in the Safety Dance video...

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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
The US is now Ebola free. You can cease you're freaking out now.
Not for long if you believe the reports Obama plans on bringing non citizens in for treament.
     
 
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