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Jansar · May 26, 2004, 10:31 PM

BOO!

Why did it have to be Fantasia?

Jansar · May 26, 2004, 10:33 PM

Here's the story.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...eisure_idol_dc

gorickey · May 26, 2004, 10:37 PM

F^#K rocked 'da hood...

OldManMac · May 26, 2004, 10:39 PM

What is this American Idol you speak of?

todrain · May 26, 2004, 10:45 PM

I'm quite proud to say I've never watched it... too much mindless stuff on TV today.

Now if they brought back Futurama, on the other hand....

Tulkas · May 26, 2004, 10:47 PM

Yeah, she sucks. Hopefully the blond will be more popular anyway.

gorickey · May 26, 2004, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by Tulkas:
Hopefully the blond will be more popular anyway.

In the long run, 2nd Place is always the #1 winner in these type of shows it seems...

Sandbaggins · May 26, 2004, 10:50 PM

I sometimes watch the audition shows. Where I can see the william hungs out there and have a good laugh.

After that I'm done with American Idol.

Arkham_c · May 26, 2004, 10:53 PM

I am not a fan of the show really, but the right person did win. That girl can sing. And the girl from Georgia (where I live) was not bad, but she's not even close to the winner in terms of ability.

Socially Awkward Solo · May 26, 2004, 10:54 PM

Good, she is amazing, better then that vanilla 16 year old.

Lateralus · May 26, 2004, 10:58 PM

Yeah, I have too much of a life to watch shows like American Idol. What, with spending all my time on computer message boards and on iChat...

Oh, wait...

mitchell_pgh · May 26, 2004, 11:05 PM

I thought the better singer won...

But like others have said, #2 will probably make a larger impact in the music industry.

ghost_flash · May 26, 2004, 11:10 PM

Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
Good, she is amazing, better then that vanilla 16 year old.

So, you hate Christians, and you just added racist... sad.

Socially Awkward Solo · May 26, 2004, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
So, you hate Christians, and you just added racist... sad.

What did I say racist? Oh, you took "vanilla" as a racist comment didn't you.

Well Vanilla means PLAIN not white. Vanilla isn't even white but beige.

Perhaps your own racism made you see otherwise...sad.

ghost_flash · May 26, 2004, 11:22 PM

Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
What did I say racist? Oh, you took "vanilla" as a racist comment didn't you.

Well Vanilla means PLAIN not white. Vanilla isn't even white but beige.

Perhaps your own racism made you see otherwise...sad.

Vanilla, as opposed to that Chocolate Girl won.... Now can you see your racism?
And don't forget Age-ist.

hyteckit · May 26, 2004, 11:32 PM

Haha... vinalla is referring to plain or common, "just like everything out there." Doesn't have anything to do with race or color.

ghost_flash · May 26, 2004, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
What did I say racist? Oh, you took "vanilla" as a racist comment didn't you.

Well Vanilla means PLAIN not white. Vanilla isn't even white but beige.

Perhaps your own racism made you see otherwise...sad.

How many "white" people do you know that are "white"? exactly.

We are all vanilla, but not plain as you say.

wataru · May 26, 2004, 11:48 PM

I don't care about the singing. The Hawaiian girl was the hottest. She should have won.

Tulkas · May 26, 2004, 11:52 PM

The blond is hotter. Short hair on a woman can look good.. but on fantasia it looks bad.

Socially Awkward Solo · May 27, 2004, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
Vanilla, as opposed to that Chocolate Girl won.... Now can you see your racism?
And don't forget Age-ist.

I didn't call her chocolate, you did.

I live in the most multicultural city in the WORLD so don't try any of that racist jazz with me Mr. "Vanilla is white people and Chocolate is Black people".

Kilbey · May 27, 2004, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
How many "white" people do you know that are "white"? exactly.

We are all vanilla, but not plain as you say.

I am more of a brown peachy color. But in the late Summer I am a darker brown peachy color.

Kilbey · May 27, 2004, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
I didn't call her chocolate, you did.

I live in the most multicultural city in the WORLD so don't try any of that racist jazz with me Mr. "Vanilla is white people and Chocolate is Black people".

So you are implying that because you "live in the most multicultural city in the WORLD" you can't be racist? I don't see the connection.

I am not calling you racist, just pointing out a hole in your argument.

Socially Awkward Solo · May 27, 2004, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by Kilbey:
I am more of a brown peachy color. But in the late Summer I am a darker brown peachy color.

I am also never beige or "Vanilla" coloured. I am Caucasian but always have a darkish tint. So what ice cream does that make me?

He was just letting his own racism trickle through to see more in my PLAIN vanilla comment.

tsuki · May 27, 2004, 12:35 AM

oooh are kilbey and ghost flash one and the same? hmmmm

jonasmac · May 27, 2004, 12:47 AM

Doesn't Fantasia remind anyone of Macy Gray?

Socially Awkward Solo · May 27, 2004, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by jonasmac:
Doesn't Fantasia remind anyone of Macy Gray?

Yes, her voice is incredibly similar.

jonasmac · May 27, 2004, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo
So what ice cream does that make me?

Rainbow Sherbet?

Kidding really. Kinda stupid to turn this into a "race war," isn't it?

Socially Awkward Solo · May 27, 2004, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by jonasmac:
Rainbow Sherbet?

Kidding really. Kinda stupid to turn this into a "race war," isn't it?

Yes, ghost_flash attempted dis just went sour for him.

Oh and:

Vanilla
Lacking adornments or special features; basic or ordinary: �We went through a period of vanilla cars�

Kilbey · May 27, 2004, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by tsuki:
oooh are kilbey and ghost flash one and the same? hmmmm

Ohh... you're a smart one. We'll have to keep an eye out for you.

WRONG

Not that Ghost flash is a bad guy, It's just that I am not him.

Zimphire · May 27, 2004, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
I live in the most multicultural city in the WORLD

Says the UN.

Zimphire · May 27, 2004, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by Kilbey:
So you are implying that because you "live in the most multicultural city in the WORLD" you can't be racist? I don't see the connection.

I am sure he has black friends too.

tsuki · May 27, 2004, 01:24 AM

Originally posted by Kilbey:
Ohh... you're a smart one. We'll have to keep an eye out for you.

WRONG

Not that Ghost flash is a bad guy, It's just that I am not him.

might as well be......................

Kilbey · May 27, 2004, 01:26 AM

Originally posted by tsuki:
might as well be......................

Oh so witty.

Because I point a hole in SWOG/COG's argument I am the same guy as Ghost Flash.

You are soooo witty.

Zimphire · May 27, 2004, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by tsuki:
might as well be......................

Why is that? Both show common sense?

BasketofPuppies · May 27, 2004, 01:40 AM

This thread is now about sherbet.

itai195 · May 27, 2004, 03:59 AM

You people never quit your bickering... Maybe it's time to let Zimph and g_f back into the political lounge, where some bickering is at least acceptable...

Anyway, the right person won. The blond girl wasn't nearly as talented.

Talk2Angus · May 27, 2004, 04:11 AM

ghost_flash · May 27, 2004, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
Yes, ghost_flash attempted dis just went sour for him.

Oh and:

Vanilla
Lacking adornments or special features; basic or ordinary: �We went through a period of vanilla cars�

? You are the one that brought up color not me.

Oh and:

According to you, there were two flavors / colors in the finals. Chocolate and Vanilla. You made the Vanilla distinction, hence the analogy of color was placed upon it. Then you mentioned how Vanilla was Beige... etc.. and boring. You, people sure can dish it out, but when you get caught in something, you change the rules. It went sour for you, not me.

I'm not the racist one, as I just pointed out your vernacular faux pas.

ghost_flash · May 27, 2004, 05:44 AM

Originally posted by Socially Awkward Solo:
I didn't call her chocolate, you did.

I live in the most multicultural city in the WORLD so don't try any of that racist jazz with me Mr. "Vanilla is white people and Chocolate is Black people".

You live in Chicago? What is the "most" multicultural city in the world? Is it the same one in the WORLD? It's been stated already, but I will restate it. What makes you immune to being racist if you live in a multicultural city? Does that mean if one does not live in either the "most" multicultural or even an average multicultural, they are open to being accused of racism before you? That's funny.

Again, you are the one who made the distinction between the two. A logical person would simply make the connection that you did. Vanilla was the non-black girl, and thus the other girl could be designated as the opposite, which is chocolate. These are your terms! Not mine.

Why couldn't you have just said, the other girl was not as talented, and even plain?

BTW: In the spirit of this thread, I was rooting for the chocolate girl to win, because I like the way she sang. She's the more talented flavor, imho.

And, lighten up Francis... sheesh!

Just because I won this argument doesn't mean I won't screw up and have you there to toss the perverbial pie in my face, so until next time. Have some vanilla or chocolate pudding and relax.

Jansar · May 27, 2004, 05:54 AM

Jon Peter Lewis should have won, but he was eliminated a little while ago...

Shame on you, America.

...and yes, the white "vanilla" girl should have kicked Fantasia's ass (picture Charlie Murphy kicking Rick James into the mirror)

Oisín · 06:20 AM

Originally posted by ghost_flash:
According to you, there were two flavors / colors in the finals. Chocolate and Vanilla.

Actually, that was you - SWG just said "Good, she is amazing, better then that vanilla 16 year old", vanilla in this case meaning 'plain, boring'. You brought up the chocolate vs. vanilla thing, he brought up the vanilla is beige, not white thing, yadda yadda yadda.

Now can't you both [/all] please just stop bickering about it or do it through PM's? I'm asking you nicely - this could be a fun thread and doesn't deserve to get locked because of eternal arguing about completely unimportant things (on all parts, please don't anyone reply to this, stating who started and who didn't; I don't care, nor do most other people here).

Edit: Completely forgot the on-topic part!

I haven't seen anything of American Idol, so I can't say anything about who won or not, but in the similar contests we have at home (namely Popstars), it always seems to hold true that the winner is not the most talented one, but the one who has the most potential to become another boring Britney-clone [even the male ones] who make at best mediocre music (sorry, I mean lip-sync to at best mediocre music that others have written) - but they have a prettypretty face and the teenage girls will love them...

The sad thing is that the really good ones, who usually finish second or third, never seem to get the breaks they deserve and actually make the kind of impact they would have made if they'd won as they deserved to.

dlefebvre · May 27, 2004, 08:11 AM

Vanilla as in the song �Vanilla Sex� from NOFX. It means BORING...

Vanilla is NOT white. So End this F#*@ING argument right F#*@ING now once and for all...

She deserved to win even if the other one was very good. It's the public who decided. If you're not happy and you didn't vote, LIVE WITH IT.

SeSawaya · May 27, 2004, 10:20 AM

anyway you look at it, Simon now owns them all.

Socially Awkward Solo · May 27, 2004, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by Ois�n:
Actually, that was you - SWG just said "Good, she is amazing, better then that vanilla 16 year old", vanilla in this case meaning 'plain, boring'. You brought up the chocolate vs. vanilla thing, he brought up the vanilla is beige, not white thing, yadda yadda yadda.

Ya he totally don't want to admit that when he called me racist he was the one actually being racist. And that whole chocolate thing he started

Anywho, no more about him.

The girl that won was incredibly talented, I don't like any of the previous winners, I might actually look forward to an album by her though.

Zimphire · May 27, 2004, 10:47 AM

SWF, I think he was just doing what you did earlier in a thread. Called people racists for no reason.

While I agree he shouldn't have done it in here, and yes vanilla in this instance does mean
"plain" I think he was trying to make a point.

dampeoples · May 27, 2004, 10:49 AM

My little girl was pleased that she won, I don't really care otherwise.

awaspaas · May 27, 2004, 11:04 AM

va�nil�la
n.
1. Any of various tropical American vines of the genus Vanilla in the orchid family, especially V. planifolia, cultivated for its long narrow seedpods from which a flavoring agent is obtained.

2. The seedpod of this plant. Also called vanilla bean.

3. A flavoring extract prepared from the cured seedpods of this plant or produced synthetically.

adj.
1. Flavored with vanilla: vanilla pudding.

2. Lacking adornments or special features; basic or ordinary: �We went through a period of vanilla cars� (Charles Jordan).

This is the worst thread EVER.

SOLIDAge · May 27, 2004, 11:33 AM

i never watched the show until last night.
i happened to see some of it...the girl that didn't win? was AWFUL...just a fatter hillary duff if you ask me.

euchomai · May 27, 2004, 12:14 PM

I've been trying to find the percentages of the vote. I can't find it anywhere though, I've read through the AP and news sites. Last year they said the percentages when they announced Ruben as the winner. I feel that this year must have really been a blow-out though. Fantasia was definitely the best singer of the two, but that London girl was the best of them all.

So, someone find the percentages of last night!

waxcrash · May 27, 2004, 12:14 PM

American Idol = Glamorized Karaoke