[fruntbut]

aye, i just wrote a long post and when i hit send it took me to the login page - i was already logged in and now i have to rewrite. here's the jist of it:

just tested my new 12" 1.33ghz (superdrive, 80gb 5400rpm, 256mb ram) and got

Results 125.85
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.3 (7G33)
Physical RAM 256 MB
Model PowerBook6,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.33 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.33 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card GeForce FX Go5200
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK8026GAX
CPU Test 160.13
GCD Loop 155.85 6.09 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 157.10 568.12 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 162.12 4.71 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 166.29 2.58 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 159.70 6.39 Mops/sec
Thread Test 117.38
Computation 84.56 1.14 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 191.85 2.41 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 126.93
System 137.83
Allocate 863.92 563.53 Kalloc/sec
Fill 141.23 1124.21 MB/sec
Copy 73.92 369.61 MB/sec
Stream 117.62
Copy 116.86 854.27 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 116.98 863.30 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 118.95 761.28 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 117.73 719.32 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 152.78
Line 137.53 3.50 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 125.76 8.85 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 149.60 3.45 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 165.96 1.80 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 208.56 3.40 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 125.81
Spinning Squares 125.81 88.04 frames/sec
User Interface Test 190.80
Elements 190.80 61.37 refresh/sec
Disk Test 75.50
Sequential 92.76
Uncached Write 96.94 40.41 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 66.02 27.04 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 197.27 31.23 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 79.42 32.09 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 63.66
Uncached Write 51.11 0.77 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 62.73 14.15 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 68.37 0.45 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 78.71 16.20 MB/sec [256K blocks]

i'm pretty impressed by this since it's stock ram and on my revb 12" w/ 768mb i never got over 102. does ram make a big difference on xbench?

anyway this laptop is about perfect - no wobble, the latch seems more secure, and the screen looks better (these are all compared to problems i had with my revb 12")

now a need a gb of ram and i'll be good to go. anybody found any outstanding deals on ram lately?

[MikeD]

Just out of curiosity, when looking at these Xbench scores, do you mainly look at the first line "results" for comparison, "Cpu test" or do you analyze the whole thing? I'm comparing my 867mhz G4 RevA 12" to your results.

Results 81.67
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.1 (7C107)
Physical RAM 640 MB
Model PowerBook6,1
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 867 MHz
Version 7455 (Apollo) v3.3
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 256K @ 867 MHz
Bus Frequency 134 MHz
Video Card GeForce4 MX
Drive Type FUJITSU MHS2060AT
CPU Test 101.83
GCD Loop 96.66 3.77 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 103.22 373.28 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 104.74 3.04 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 106.99 1.66 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 98.28 3.93 Mops/sec
Thread Test 72.74
Computation 53.15 717.53 Kops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 115.22 1.45 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 79.74
System 68.63
Allocate 529.34 345.29 Kalloc/sec
Fill 41.43 329.79 MB/sec
Copy 56.53 282.64 MB/sec
Stream 95.16
Copy 91.61 669.67 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 91.15 672.69 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 95.24 609.55 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 103.67 633.42 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 96.58
Line 89.74 2.29 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 94.17 6.62 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 103.85 2.41 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 86.69 956.21 beziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 113.07 1.84 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 87.34
Spinning Squares 87.34 61.12 frames/sec
User Interface Test 113.55
Elements 113.55 36.52 refresh/sec
Disk Test 52.64
Sequential 51.16
Uncached Write 46.04 19.19 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 41.60 17.03 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 110.26 17.45 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 42.82 17.30 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 54.20
Uncached Write 70.96 1.06 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 46.55 10.50 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 55.52 0.37 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 49.48 10.18 MB/sec [256K blocks]

[fruntbut]

i believe "results" is a straight average of all the individual scores. i would look it up but i'm on a syrupy slow connection right now.

[t.hill]

Did you make sure your powerbook was in the highest performance mode? I don't know anything about xbench, but the dude in the other thread forgot to do that, and it raised his overall score by like 50 points.

[Michel_80]

To recap the new 12" gets 125 while the new 1.5 15" gets 150 or so.

[MikeD]

Yeah he did didn't het... But this seems right for 1.33 Ghz machine... The 15" was 1.5ghz. Now that I'm looking at the RevA vs RevC, it looks like I'd be Seeing a 30-40% increase in performance which is always nice...

Mike

[fruntbut]

me? yes, it was set to "highest performance". why, do think it should have scored higher?

[t.hill]

Originally posted by fruntbut:
me? yes, it was set to "highest performance". why, do think it should have scored higher?

No, like I said, I don't know anything about xbench and I don't even own an apple computer yet (well, I bought one but it isn't here yet. hasn't even shipped. ). I was just curious, and since I bought almost the exact same computer as you I was interested.

[Olorin]

Would the 12" rev C be substantially better at playing games than the Rev B?

[Commodus]

The new 12" will be a bit better with games than the rev B model was, but just a bit. Games are more dependent upon better video chipsets than faster CPUs. Your main advantage would be in those few games that want more texture memory than faster processing.

If you want better gaming, it'd be more practical to either get a 15" 1.33 GHz system or admit it and pick up a G5 desktop (preferably with a Radeon 9600 or 9800 Pro).

[chabig]

I just tested my new 12" 1.33ghz (superdrive, 80gb 5400rpm, 768MB RAM) and got

Results 113.94
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.3 (7G33)
Physical RAM 768 MB
Model PowerBook6,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.33 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.33 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card GeForce FX Go5200
Drive Type Hitachi HTS548080M9AT00
CPU Test 148.18
GCD Loop 133.97 5.23 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 162.25 586.74 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 161.27 4.68 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 162.14 2.52 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 129.08 5.17 Mops/sec
Thread Test 90.60
Computation 84.26 1.14 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 97.97 1.23 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 127.21
System 125.53
Allocate 636.90 415.45 Kalloc/sec
Fill 96.20 765.77 MB/sec
Copy 83.80 418.98 MB/sec
Stream 128.93
Copy 135.21 988.41 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 119.48 881.76 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 131.99 844.76 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 130.15 795.22 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 135.88
Line 130.26 3.32 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 108.92 7.66 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 114.06 2.63 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 143.34 1.56 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 238.31 3.88 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 121.39
Spinning Squares 121.39 84.95 frames/sec
User Interface Test 183.07
Elements 183.07 58.88 refresh/sec
Disk Test 67.89
Sequential 71.73
Uncached Write 75.20 31.34 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 59.60 24.40 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 99.18 15.70 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 64.08 25.89 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 64.44
Uncached Write 56.95 0.85 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 64.43 14.53 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 68.15 0.45 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 69.83 14.37 MB/sec [256K blocks]


Even though mine has more RAM, the results are comparable.

Chris

[Necrocool]

Stock 1.33GHz with 60GB 4200 drive, 768MB RAM

Results 115.03
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.3 (7G33)
Physical RAM 768 MB
Model PowerBook6,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.33 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.33 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card GeForce FX Go5200
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK6025GAS
CPU Test 144.28
GCD Loop 155.64 6.08 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 122.21 441.97 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 163.00 4.73 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 162.66 2.53 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 128.77 5.15 Mops/sec
Thread Test 116.84
Computation 84.32 1.14 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 190.16 2.39 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 133.21
System 148.40
Allocate 873.95 570.08 Kalloc/sec
Fill 146.99 1170.03 MB/sec
Copy 81.51 407.56 MB/sec
Stream 120.84
Copy 121.38 887.31 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 124.16 916.31 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 121.20 775.70 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 116.83 713.85 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 155.27
Line 135.22 3.44 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 126.96 8.93 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 150.72 3.47 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 165.76 1.80 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 234.63 3.82 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 131.69
Spinning Squares 131.69 92.15 frames/sec
User Interface Test 211.93
Elements 211.93 68.17 refresh/sec
Disk Test 52.35
Sequential 55.32
Uncached Write 58.65 24.45 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 42.13 17.25 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 123.48 19.55 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 42.70 17.25 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 49.68
Uncached Write 44.18 0.66 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 46.66 10.52 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 56.87 0.38 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 52.98 10.90 MB/sec [256K blocks]


1.33GHz with 50GB Toshiba 7200 drive.

Results 123.97
System Info
Xbench Version 1.1.3
System Version 10.3.3 (7G33)
Physical RAM 768 MB
Model PowerBook6,4
Processor PowerPC G4 @ 1.33 GHz
L1 Cache 32K (instruction), 32K (data)
L2 Cache 512K @ 1.33 GHz
Bus Frequency 167 MHz
Video Card GeForce FX Go5200
Drive Type TOSHIBA MK5024GAY
CPU Test 161.13
GCD Loop 152.58 5.96 Mops/sec
Floating Point Basic 164.61 595.29 Mflop/sec
AltiVec Basic 163.43 4.75 Gflop/sec
vecLib FFT 163.65 2.54 Gflop/sec
Floating Point Library 162.03 6.49 Mops/sec
Thread Test 118.43
Computation 85.25 1.15 Mops/sec, 4 threads
Lock Contention 193.91 2.43 Mlocks/sec, 4 threads
Memory Test 130.69
System 147.37
Allocate 854.20 557.19 Kalloc/sec
Fill 142.38 1133.36 MB/sec
Copy 82.22 411.09 MB/sec
Stream 117.40
Copy 123.01 899.23 MB/sec [altivec]
Scale 125.67 927.46 MB/sec [altivec]
Add 115.09 736.56 MB/sec [altivec]
Triad 107.58 657.33 MB/sec [altivec]
Quartz Graphics Test 155.06
Line 130.47 3.32 Klines/sec [50% alpha]
Rectangle 127.12 8.94 Krects/sec [50% alpha]
Circle 150.30 3.46 Kcircles/sec [50% alpha]
Bezier 168.44 1.83 Kbeziers/sec [50% alpha]
Text 242.50 3.95 Kchars/sec
OpenGL Graphics Test 130.74
Spinning Squares 130.74 91.49 frames/sec
User Interface Test 213.85
Elements 213.85 68.79 refresh/sec
Disk Test 64.98
Sequential 64.14
Uncached Write 54.46 22.70 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 51.72 21.18 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 140.27 22.21 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 57.02 23.04 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 65.83
Uncached Write 59.65 0.89 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 56.43 12.73 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 83.28 0.55 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 70.09 14.42 MB/sec [256K blocks]

[nick_coday]

Originally posted by Necrocool:
Stock 1.33GHz with 60GB 4200 drive, 768MB RAM

Results 115.03

You've got some background programs hindering performance.

I got a 118 on my stock 1.25Ghz 512MB 15.2" Al Pb.

With that CPU and memory, it should be higher.

[MilkmanDan]

I was able to get a 124 on my 1.33ghz 12in. 768 RAM, 80 GIG HD.

[maninmac]

So, can anybody explain why my new 15" 1.33 with 768 Ram and the 60 gig 4200 drive got 97 when I ran the test on Saturday? It was set for 'highest' setting...should I be concerned?

Thanks!

[xylon]

Originally posted by maninmac:
So, can anybody explain why my new 15" 1.33 with 768 Ram and the 60 gig 4200 drive got 97 when I ran the test on Saturday? It was set for 'highest' setting...should I be concerned?

Thanks!

Check your processes. Something may be running in the background that's eating your processor. For example, I had a printer driver that was destroying my processor (killed gameplay in UT2003). After killing it, computer was chugging along nicely.

[nick_coday]

Being a long-time PC guy; on the mac, how do find out the background processes??

[tommy]

Originally posted by nick_coday:
Being a long-time PC guy; on the mac, how do find out the background processes??

In terminal, type "top" To kill processes, type "kill XXX" where XXX is the process number

[nagromme]

The UNIX command line is optional on Mac... there's an easier way

Just use Activity Monitor (in Utilities).

Sorting by CPU usage is good for finding CPU hogs. Don't forget to show "All Processes." You can Quit any process with a click.