[ambush]

a BRILLIANT movie.

I was going to go see Collateral, but it wasn't out yet (the newspaper made a mistake, apparently)... so we decided to go see this movie.

It's pretty scary... and disturbing.

discuss!

a must-see movie!

[cpt kangarooski]

Meh. I liked the first one better, particularly the garden party scene, which was very funny and creepy.

[MindFad]

I never saw the original, but after all I've heard it seem like it was the better of the two. Caught an early screening of Manchurian Candidate last week. I give it a "meh." It wasn't horrible, but I didn't think it was great, really. Acting felt a bit hollow, and the story was predictable at times. Overall, it entertained me for the most part. I was just glad I didn't have to pay to see it.

I do plan on seeing the original now, though.

I'm also curious about Collateral. Had passes for it, but didn't go. Looks like an interesting story.

[CreepingDeth]

Worst 8 bucks I spent since�damn what's something bad�a slinky!
This movie was sooo bad. Besides the wannabe Kubrik direction style (the closet part reminded me of the ending of 2001), this movie had little going for it. The plot was a mess of meaningless twists and flashbacks. One guy has an implant the arm, another in the head. The whole thing was stupid. Come on, he was going to kill the president-elect for what reason? He wasn't even the f****** president! And why did they do a boring sniper scene, instead of doing the up-close like the first? Then you've got that Hillary Clinton look-a-like saying people's full name and rank, then they suddenly become under Hillary-I mean Shaw's command. (Isn't her last name Shaw?). Then you've go the little actor with the crowd pleasing smile. He remembers nothing but he knows he's the enemy? Gay. Besides, this movie is only entertaining to those individuals who can even *vaguely* see conspiracies as reality. Then there are going to be the people who see what this movie really is: a partisan movie made up of metaphorical leaders that are supposed to be that "ebil dubya guy." Manchurian Global is supposed to be Carlyle Group. And then there are going to be the nuts who fill in the obvious blanks and see this movie as parallel�which it is most certainly not. But then again, looking at the majority of the posters here, it looks to be a hit.

Hope it bombs.

3/10. Go buy some Jolt and look at porn instead (if you are ****ed up enough to look at that trash).

[ambush]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Worst 8 bucks I spent since�damn what's something bad�a slinky!
This movie was sooo bad. Besides the wannabe Kubrik direction style (the closet part reminded me of the ending of 2001), this movie had little going for it. The plot was a mess of meaningless twists and flashbacks. One guy has an implant the arm, another in the head. The whole thing was stupid. Come on, he was going to kill the president-elect for what reason? He wasn't even the f****** president! And why did they do a boring sniper scene, instead of doing the up-close like the first? Then you've got that Hillary Clinton look-a-like saying people's full name and rank, then they suddenly become under Hillary-I mean Shaw's command. (Isn't her last name Shaw?). Then you've go the little actor with the crowd pleasing smile. He remembers nothing but he knows he's the enemy? Gay. Besides, this movie is only entertaining to those individuals who can even *vaguely* see conspiracies as reality. Then there are going to be the people who see what this movie really is: a partisan movie made up of metaphorical leaders that are supposed to be that "ebil dubya guy." Manchurian Global is supposed to be Carlyle Group. And then there are going to be the nuts who fill in the obvious blanks and see this movie as parallel�which it is most certainly not. But then again, looking at the majority of the posters here, it looks to be a hit.

Hope it bombs.

3/10. Go buy some Jolt and look at porn instead (if you are ****ed up enough to look at that trash).

So who are you. Dcolton? Zimph? PacHead? EvilConservative?

[ender2002]

kelly hogan.

[ambush]

maybe NYCFarmbo� ?!

lol


KH... omg... WHERE ART THOUUUUUU KHHHHH

[ender2002]

i dont know who this guy is. but... metallica RULEZ and the manchurian candidate SUCHKAZ ASZZZ

[milhous]

i'll give it a look once it's out for rent, but the first one with sinatra and angela lansbury was a masterpiece.

23 posts to go...

[Sod Off Sadr]

meh to the movie. Glad I only wasted $5.25 on it, not more.

[rastatero]

Originally posted by cpt kangarooski:
Meh. I liked the first one better, particularly the garden party scene, which was very funny and creepy.

I have to agree. The original is phenomenal.

[CreepingDeth]

No, I'm not Zimph, ass. Who the **** is dcolton?
Yes the original was a very good movie, but alot more relevant, considering the time period. Hell, I wouldn't trust China's government to do my laundry.
Besides, no matter who this retarded movie was aimed toward, the plot was stupid and unoriginal. To me, it just seemed like the writers listen to Coast to Coast for material.

If I want to be positive, I'll say two things: the performances weren't bad at all (although sometimes overly dramatic) and the bag of Skittles I had was superb.

Ender, you can go fornicate yourself with a searing iron stick. Metallica may have gone into nu metal with St. Anger, but damnit, their worst song is better than half the **** that gets played on FM radio. Or listened to by outcast losers who are supposed to be non-conformist pinko kids but conform to a group of ungrateful spoiled little monkey children (the bad monkeys), aka punks.

[Superchicken]

I'm glad I stopped seeing movies... I saw uhh... I think three this summer... way more than a normal year... I hate the movie theatres

[MindFad]

Originally posted by ambush:
So who are you. Dcolton? Zimph? PacHead? EvilConservative?

My guess: Pseudo-intellectual seventeen-year-old high school student who just finished reading a book on communism, is about to start "The Enemey Within" by Michael Savage, and has a few Ann Coulter books on backorder through Amazon.com.

Or it could be Tater Salad. Like ghost_flash, only dumber.

[CreepingDeth]

And how old might you be, MindFad? Are you saying you're an intelectual? I'd like to insult you, but I'll give you a compliment: nice icons. At least there's one more Nintendo fan in this world.
I'm just saying the the plot was stupid and boring.

[MindFad]

I don't claim to be an intellectual, that's for sure. I know many others would agree to make themselves look big! But I ain't stupid�my momma did'n raise no stupid ... child.

I base my insult on your sig and you acting like a petty homophobe in the bickering lounge. I may think you're a sh�t head for now, but enjoy the icons anyway.

Agreed that the movie was fairly boring at times. I really need to see the original.

[george68]

I'm a fan of the ORIGINAL manchurian candidate. It was excellent. I don't see any reason to remake it, as the first one was spot on.

- Rob

[Turias]

Originally posted by george68:
I'm a fan of the ORIGINAL manchurian candidate. It was excellent. I don't see any reason to remake it, as the first one was spot on.

- Rob

Agreed. The original is an amazing film. I'm getting pretty sick of the current Hollywood rut of remaking movie after movie and creating sequel after soul-sucking sequel.

[SimeyTheLimey]

Originally posted by george68:
I'm a fan of the ORIGINAL manchurian candidate. It was excellent. I don't see any reason to remake it, as the first one was spot on.

- Rob

Agreed. Rather like The Day of the Jackal or (on a lighter note) The Italian Job. I don't bother seeing remakes like those because seeing them spoils your memory of the original. It's like sending a classic Rolls Royce to the folks from Pimp My Ride.

Edit to add: occasionally remakes can work on their own merits. Ben Hur was a remake, and a good one. But I haven't seen the original silent version to compare.

[ender2002]

METALLICA!!!!!!



btw, the cool guy is you. because you are cool.

[SeSawaya]

it started out great. Although the director tries to be Kuberic, he's not.

I've never seen a movie go to h e l l SO fast in my life. 3/4 of the way through the writers must have quit or something cause the next thing I know, I'm watching "Miss Congeniality". About as predictable as it gets. All of us (4 friends) got up shaking out heads in disgust. Funny cause it was literally a specific line made the movie tank. After that it was ALL down hill.

Really, dont bother.


My pick for worst movie of the summer. (but I havent seen the village yet)

[James L]

Originally posted by ender2002:
i dont know who this guy is. but... metallica RULEZ and the manchurian candidate SUCHKAZ ASZZZ

Not to pick on you dude, more of a general comment, but when did people start thinking that spelling RULES as RULEZ, SUCKS as SUCHKAZ, and ASS as ASZZZ became cool?

Did I step out for a minute and illiteracy became cool?



p.s. I have been to over 200 concerts, seen Metallica 6 times between 1984 and now, and they do rock, or RULEZ if I was to be illiterate and hip about it!

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by ambush:
So who are you. Dcolton? Zimph? PacHead? EvilConservative?

Everytime I see something like this.. I have to L.O.L.

And I actually do laugh out loud too!

[zachs]

I haven't yet seen the original. I was waiting until after I had seen the remake so that I wouldn't be comparing the two the whole time.

I'll have to go rent the original now.

[CreepingDeth]

Originally posted by ender2002:
METALLICA!!!!!!



btw, the cool guy is you. because you are cool.

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but funny photo. Is that Kirk? Has to be.
Hey ender�you can suck my balls and go listen to Anti-Flag.

And for the last time, I'm not ****ing ghost_flash! Someone told be in PL that he was a big Christian conservative poster who doesn't come around often. And since I'm not Christian�so�DEBUNKED.

BTW, MC sucks, to stay OT.

[CD Hanks]

Originally posted by ender2002:
kelly hogan.

Oh...dear GOD no...just...ugh

[sideus]

Originally posted by ender2002:
kelly hogan.

Who is that?

[zachs]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Then you've got that Hillary Clinton look-a-like saying people's full name and rank, then they suddenly become under Hillary-I mean Shaw's command.

She wasn't supposed to be Hillary:

To prepare, she adopted a steady media diet of political talk shows: ''Anything with Peggy Noonan, Karen Hughes.... It's hard to get more hyperbolic than that, but there are lots of little subtleties in how people spin and push their point of view. The jewelry is very important as well.''

[CreepingDeth]

Still looked like the bitch.

[wdlove]

I agree that its really important to see the original. A lesson that is important for American's to be aware.

[soul searching]

I have not seen either movie but I've heard of this scene in the original where the wife and candidate are talking and there's a Heinz bottle in the picture. It was just product placement at the time, but very funny now given Kerry's wife.

[businezguy]

I have to agree with a lot of the reviews here. The movie was just so-so. I'd have skipped it and seen something else, if I would have known ahead of time.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Yes the original was a very good movie, but alot more relevant, considering the time period.

It's rather telling when people don't understand the relevance of the current context and not very surprising when they don't like something that challenges their perspective ...

[CreepingDeth]

Conspiracies?
Pass the weed.

[Zimphire]

Some people make conspiracies out to be what they want them to be as well.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Some people make conspiracies out to be what they want them to be as well.

On both sides of the fence. Remember, believing that Saddam and Bin Laden were conspiring against the US is just another conspiracy theory without solid evidence to back it up.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
Remember, believing that Saddam and Bin Laden were conspiring against the US

Who claimed that?

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Who claimed that?

[Zimphire]

No seriously.. who made that claim?

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
No seriously.. who made that claim?

No, seriously ... that's not even worth a response since pretty much everyone on the conservative side has either claimed or implied that.

[sanity assassin]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
No, seriously ... that's not even worth a response since pretty much everyone on the conservative side has either claimed or implied that.

Exactly, that's the intended purpose of a conspiracy, especialy Governmental ones. Create as many ambiguous stories as possible, use smoke and mirrors to enhance it, then layer what you're really saying by covering it up with veiled hints.

That, is why so many people are now of the assumption that Iraq was a threat to the US.

In the end it's all bollocksm plain and simple. The lies and misuse of wars are sickeningly common now, and the rate at which we're seeong more powerful nations just friggin walk all over othersm is obvious to me.

Never, ever believe these wars, invasions ae about freeing people, it's all national interest. Thing is, it'll come back to those who perpetrate them, and in ways they will never have forseen.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
No, seriously ... that's not even worth a response since pretty much everyone on the conservative side has either claimed or implied that.

No I think you have it confused with "Iraq had terrorists connections"

And they did. Bush himself never made any Saddam <> Osama connections either.

But you are right. This is a good example. Just not the one you are thinking it is. So many leftists have been told that Bush made said connection they believe it. When he never.

[prutz11]

Can someone please explain the ending to me? I thought the acting was great, but the ending... it just didn't seem to add up.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
No I think you have it confused with "Iraq had terrorists connections"

And they did. Bush himself never made any Saddam <> Osama connections either.

But you are right. This is a good example. Just not the one you are thinking it is. So many leftists have been told that Bush made said connection they believe it. When he never.

:cough:"Powell: Tape Shows bin Laden 'in Partnership With Iraq'":cough:
:cough:cough:"Powell: Bin Laden Statement Confirms Iraq Link":cough:cough:

Yes, he later claimed almost a year later that there were no links, but people who want to believe in such links never hear such statements.

Of course Bush himself never made any direct connections ... he wouldn't want to be impeached if such a statment proved to be false.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
:cough:"Powell: Tape Shows bin Laden 'in Partnership With Iraq'":cough:
:cough:cough:"Powell: Bin Laden Statement Confirms Iraq Link":cough:cough:

*COUGH* *COUGH* IRAQ, NOT SADDAM.

The 9/11 commission made such mistakes too.

Bush claimed there was Iraq/terrorists connection (And there were)

The 9/11 commission agreed without a doubt there was. But there was no Osama <> Saddam connections. Something the Bush administration had to inform them was never said.

See you just proved my point. You took "Terrorist <> Iraq" connections and turned it into "Osama Saddam" connection because that is what you "wanted to believe"

[ambush]

zimphire, I'm asking you to get the **** out of my thread.

plzokthxbyeggiwin ^_^

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by Zimphire:
*COUGH* *COUGH* IRAQ, NOT SADDAM.

The 9/11 commission made such mistakes too.

Bush claimed there was Iraq/terrorists connection (And there were)

The 9/11 commission agreed without a doubt there was. But there was no Osama <> Saddam connections. Something the Bush administration had to inform them was never said.

See you just proved my point. You took "Terrorist <> Iraq" connections and turned it into "Osama Saddam" connection because that is what you "wanted to believe"

"Saddam link to Bin Laden"

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
"Saddam link to Bin Laden"

I never said it was definite. That was a "what if" So was the article. Nice try though.

My first post even said

Now before anyone knee-jerks, I am not commenting on the valditiy of this page. Just offering it to the masses of MacNN.

Looking back, I was right in making that knee-jerk comment.

[Zimphire]

Originally posted by ambush:
zimphire, I'm asking you to get the **** out of my thread.

plzokthxbyeggiwin ^_^

I wouldn't have been in this thread had you not brought my name up Einstein.

[Stogieman]

I saw the Manchurian Candidate last weekend. It was pretty good but not as good as Colateral with Tom Cruise and Jamie Fox.