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bstone · Sep 6, 2006, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by Eug

Now I know why it doesn't work. I tried accessing it from the BSG page instead of the main page:

We're sorry, but the clip you selected isn't available from your location. Please select another clip.

Frack!

where r u located?

Eug · Sep 7, 2006, 01:02 AM

Canada (Toronto).

That's esp. irritating since it's filmed in Canada.

Eug · Sep 7, 2006, 09:46 PM

OK. I finally was able to watch the first two on You Tube.

I think they're definitely worth watching.

Landos Mustache · Sep 12, 2006, 11:09 AM

Ok anyone else notice how much this occupation story in the webcasts is EXACTLY like Deep Space 9's 4th season which was also by Ronald D. Moore?

scottiB · Sep 12, 2006, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

Ok anyone else notice how much this occupation story in the webcasts is EXACTLY like Deep Space 9's 4th season which was also by Ronald D. Moore?

I haven't watched the webcast, but my wife and I have been watching DS9 from start to finish on DVDs, and I have noticed some paralells in motifs and plots from when Moore joined the series.

Stradlater · Sep 12, 2006, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

Seems to work OK. Kinda wanna download them, but can't.

tnerroT tiB

Eug · Sep 12, 2006, 11:31 AM

Anyone have a YouTube link for today's Webisode? I can't find it.

How are they downloading the Webisodes anyway, to upload there?

Landos Mustache · Sep 12, 2006, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by scottiB

I haven't watched the webcast, but my wife and I have been watching DS9 from start to finish on DVDs, and I have noticed some paralells in motifs and plots from when Moore joined the series.

They are extremely similar and I think BSG is what Moore wanted to do with DS9 but the studio wouldn't let him make Star Trek with its good image go that dark.

Anywho, think about DS9's:

1) Viris that can destroy the enemy and cause genocide.
2) The underground movement
3) The "good guys" becoming part of the "bad guys" task force
4) The religious foresight and non-liniar time
5) Leaving the main ship for a season
6) The multiple occupations
7) The previous war with the cardasians that has now returned.

I could go on and on.

I just hope this season of BSG doesn't make me feel like I have seen it all already.

scottiB · Sep 12, 2006, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

I just hope this season of BSG doesn't make me feel like I have seen it all already.

I know. I have that feeling too, a bit. While I don't think it will make BSG any lesser, I truly forgot how good DS9 is--it's become my favorite Trek (not to derail this thread).

bstone · Sep 12, 2006, 12:05 PM

What happened to the midnight webisode? They said new ones every Tues and Thurs night at midnight. Well that was 12 hours ago and I don't see the new webisode!!!!!! dAMnit!

Oversoul · Sep 12, 2006, 12:11 PM

I was wondering the same thing. scifi.com no longer directs to the webisode page and takes me directly to scifi's mainpage.

bstone · Sep 12, 2006, 12:59 PM

weird. i want my webisodes, darnit!

bstone · Sep 12, 2006, 01:00 PM

they must have read my post. part 3 is up now, lol

JoshuaZ · Sep 12, 2006, 08:13 PM

Youtube links please!

(So I can watch them right away when I get back from work today.)

DS9 was dark. Would have been interesting if it had gone completely dark. mmmmm.... dark sci-fi drama.

bstone · Sep 12, 2006, 09:46 PM

sorry dude it's flash. go to scifi.com like the rest of us.

Eug · Sep 12, 2006, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by bstone

sorry dude it's flash. go to scifi.com like the rest of us.

1) The webisodes won't play in some (all?) places outside the US.
2) The first two webisodes are already on YouTube.

JoshuaZ · Sep 12, 2006, 10:29 PM

Yeah, it won`t play for me in Japan. Its been annoying me for a while now.

Eug · Sep 13, 2006, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ

Yeah, it won`t play for me in Japan. Its been annoying me for a while now.

SciFi.com is truly out to lunch on this one.

tnerroT tiB it is then

... and the Tyranny of Digital Distance

Clearly, NBC Universal has elected to try and generate fan interest in BSG's third season premiere, but have decided to limit the webisodes to that segment of the internet nominally American (and only US, not Canadian, as pointed out by D'Arcy Norman). To some extent, this might appear to make sense to the studio executives financing BSG, since the release dates for season three will be later in other countries.

They don’t seem to notice that the very large and thriving fan communities that built up around Battlestar (and similar shows) are global in nature. There may be arcane big media arrangements that mean the third season will debut later in the UK and later again (if ever!) in Australia, but the buzz about BSG, the communities which actively discuss and to some extent participate in the show (a sense heightened by Ron Moore's podcasts) and thus the interest, is spread further than the national boundaries of the US (or the ISPs located therein).

By barring large segments of the BSG fan communities from seeing the webisodes is tantamount to a slap in the face to the very loyal fans in other countries who not only watch the series, but buy the DVDs, comics, soundtracks, and other offshoots from the BSG franchise.

As one Canadian put it: "They can film it in Canada, but they won't let us see it."

Eug · Sep 19, 2006, 02:29 PM

Got the BSG 2.5 DVDs. This is the description on the back:

Pretty much the only real new thing here is the Pegasus extended episode.

Speaking of 2.5... Only 2.5 more weeks until Season 3 starts.

Landos Mustache · Sep 19, 2006, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by Eug

Pretty much the only real new thing here is the Pegasus extended episode.

That is pretty much worth it on its own as I think it is the best episode of the series.

reader50 · Sep 19, 2006, 10:36 PM

What kind of extra material is present? Besides Pegasus Extended, that is, and the podcast commentaries for each episode.

bstone · Sep 20, 2006, 01:07 AM

What is Pegasus Extended?

Eug Wanker · Sep 20, 2006, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by reader50

What kind of extra material is present? Besides Pegasus Extended, that is, and the podcast commentaries for each episode.

I haven't watched them yet, but it looks as though there's basically nothing you can't download from the website, besides the extended Pegasus.

It's just organized better and better quality of course.

Originally Posted by bstone

What is Pegasus Extended?

Dark Helmet · Sep 26, 2006, 11:03 AM

I watched the extended Pegasus. It is good but hard to tell what is new as they more or less just cut lines in the middle of scenes and not so much entire scenes.

You learn things like the Pegasus is a Mercury class ship, twice the size of BSG but only needs half the staff to run (I guess that is why the CIC is so small and short staffed).

You also learn that Admeral Caine knew of Baltar before the attack and is happy to see he survived the initial attack (the funny thing is he is the one who tells Six to kill her). You find out what Pegasus' Six's mission was before she got caught, and the Pegasus Deck chief takes over for Tyrol on Galactica.

Dale Sorel · Sep 27, 2006, 03:01 PM

I don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but while I was in the iTunes store today I saw this free download of The Story So Far.

Dark Helmet · Sep 27, 2006, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by Dale Sorel

I don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but while I was in the iTunes store today I saw this free download of The Story So Far.

Only for the US.

You can also get it on Xbox live.

Myriad · Oct 4, 2006, 09:53 PM

Video Player

First 12 minutes of the season three premiere, and they're definitely going all out on the dramatic aspects of the show. Very dark.

powerbook867 · Oct 4, 2006, 10:26 PM

Thanks! Tried to go full screen in Safari though and was getting some sound abnormalities...

I'll try it in Firefox later. Really appreciate the link!!

reader50 · Oct 4, 2006, 10:35 PM

I'll pass until I can see the episode in full.

nicole.msska · Oct 5, 2006, 10:01 PM

i know a lot of people from outside the US (like me

) are having problems getting to view the "webisodes" so i thought i'd post this youtube link that i found for webisode 9.

When i searched for episode 9 on youtube originally it didn't come up in search results. When i use this link it works fine (link here) but it still won't show up now when i search for it on youtube.

i wonder if youtube is filtering some searches now?

Oversoul · Oct 6, 2006, 01:53 PM

October 6 is here!

goMac · Oct 6, 2006, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Oversoul

October 6 is here!

And it brings the return of fat Adama!

RAILhead · Oct 6, 2006, 03:26 PM

2 hours, too! SWEET!

It better not suck (like there's any chance of that).

paul w · Oct 6, 2006, 03:28 PM

darn baseball playoffs!

Lateralus · Oct 6, 2006, 04:06 PM

I'm just glad they're running it twice in a row.

I was supposed to be off work today, but got called in for an evening shift from 5-9pm. By the time I get home, the second airing should be close to going on.

So happy I'm not gonna have to resort to BitTorrent...

Dale Sorel · Oct 6, 2006, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Lateralus

I'm just glad they're running it twice in a row.

I was supposed to be off work today, but got called in for an evening shift from 5-9pm. By the time I get home, the second airing should be close to going on.

So happy I'm not gonna have to resort to BitTorrent...

Man, you need a TiVo

Buckaroo · Oct 7, 2006, 12:33 AM

Battlestar Galactica, sponsered by Quiznos,

MMMMMM. . . Toasty!

Chuckit · Oct 7, 2006, 12:49 AM

Is it me or are both Adamas freakishly orange?

xi_hyperon · Oct 7, 2006, 01:10 AM

Well, Apollo's got a fatsuit on, so in his case, the makeup is probably the culprit.

paul w · Oct 7, 2006, 01:18 AM

I love - LOVE - the whole "insurgency" and suicide bombing angle. Add that to the premise that the Cylons are actually there to "save" them, or something. And the whole attack the police - who just happen to wear ski masks to hide their identity from the others - reminds me of something...

Hmmm...what am I thinking of? I can't put a name to it.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Oct 7, 2006, 01:36 AM

Pretty damn good. I can't wait to see them get back in space though.

SpaceMonkey · Oct 7, 2006, 01:47 AM

The parts with Starbuck and Leoban in the honeymoon-house-oh-wait-it's-a-prison were way creepy. I loved it.

selowitch · Oct 7, 2006, 02:05 AM

I missed the premiere. Any word on when it will be available via the iTunes Store?

goMac · Oct 7, 2006, 02:09 AM

Just glad to see Roslyn lives (she's in the preview for the entire season).

Chuckit · Oct 7, 2006, 02:13 AM

That was really good. Better than I expected. And I like that they're finally using the Sharons. I've always thought there was a lot of opportunity there for interesting interactions with the other characters, like we saw in the scenes with Cally, Adama and…er…Xena. (Sorry, I can't remember the character's name. She's Xena to me.) How the crap is Laura not full of holes, though?

By the way, if anybody lives around here and is interested, Grace Park is going to have a Q&A session at the Asian Film Festival next Saturday to talk about Galactica.

awcopus · Oct 7, 2006, 10:13 AM

Compared to the relatively anemic and unsatisfying 1-hour debut of LOST, brimming with scenes in which you can feel the writers fashioning awkward dialogue designed to reveal nothing, the 2-hour premiere of BSG was fantastic.

With BSG, we get confident, rich, multilayered, inspired storytelling. That 2-hour starter was a season finale all on its own. The parallels with contemporary issues dealing with "freedom fighters", suicide bombers, military occupation, and the basic philosophical questions about trust, personhood, and moral agency raised by this show manage not to upstage the distinct character-driven dramas each of the main characters is facing.

The level of ambition here is unlike the rest of what's on television. Although I remain a fan of LOST, that show's protracted way of exploring plot points is both too conservative and too manipulative, in general. Too many scenes in which characters emotionally and logically should discuss things fans want to hear, but don't because the writers are invested in the gimmick of keeping viewers perched on the edge of their seats. Of course, paradoxically, when you've been on the edge of your seat for a while, it feels less like a suspenseful position and more like a stagnant one.

JoshuaZ · Oct 7, 2006, 10:26 AM

Thank god for bittorrent....

You've got to feed the monkey...

OreoCookie · Oct 7, 2006, 12:20 PM

Holy …

This was definitely one of the best episodes (or rather: best two episodes) of the whole series! Now the hardest thing is to wait till next week …

RAILhead · Oct 7, 2006, 12:24 PM

Sweet fancy Moses, that was EXCELLENT TV, my friends! I loved the saturation of the images, and they made Baltar look so freakin horrible, it was awesome.

goMac · Oct 7, 2006, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by RAILhead

and they made Baltar look so freakin horrible, it was awesome.

On a related note, I was glad to see Baltar working on redeeming himself. Six-in-his-head was right. He needed to sign the document in order to live to fight another day. I have a feeling later he's going to help the resistance in a critical time. But for now it seems he's on a path to good.