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Chuckit · Sep 30, 2008, 08:59 PM

Dude, they killed off Niki. That was the best possible person they could have killed.

Eug · Sep 30, 2008, 09:13 PM

That's just it. They didn't. They just came up some super-duper lame dramatic workaround so they could say they killed off someone even though they didn't. They may as well just claim that all of last season was just a dream.

- - e r i k - - · Sep 30, 2008, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

And Peter, Mohinder and Clre are acting like villains even though they're heroes. Are you seeing a theme here?

Is it how to rape the memory of a once great series by insulting the viewers intelligence?

Give me Star Wars for $500 Alex.

voodoo · Sep 30, 2008, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Dude, they killed off Niki. That was the best possible person they could have killed.

A tear of joy fell down my cheek when Niki was killed off

Gankdawg · Oct 5, 2008, 11:06 PM

I'm enjoying it. I read some stuff on the wiki and now kinda feel caught up.

B Gallagher · Oct 10, 2008, 05:34 AM

Episode 3 has been the best for me sofar - I just watched episode 4 and it left me thinking what was the point of all that? The end was perhaps the best bit of the whole episode.

Big Mac · Oct 14, 2008, 08:51 AM

This season is redeeming the series quite well so far, IMO.

Killing Ando in that fashion is a really bold decision for the show, unless Hiro chickens out and goes back to stop himself later. Claire has interesting things to do now, and I like Robert Forester as Father Patrelli. His power must be immense to do what he's been show to do. Gabriel's new direction is being depicted well.

RAILhead · Oct 14, 2008, 09:14 AM

He hasn't done anything -- the dorky guy was the one doing stuff.

Big Mac · Oct 14, 2008, 09:53 AM

Yeah, that's Parkman's father (unless I'm wrong). But you saw Angela's dream, right?

RAILhead · Oct 14, 2008, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Big Mac

Yeah, that's Parkman's father (unless I'm wrong). But you saw Angela's dream, right?

Yes, but I don't know that it represented exactly what his power was. I mean, we already have an invincible Sylar, Claire and Peter, and Sylar and pete can "do anything" -- so I don't know how much more WOW he could be.

Big Mac · Oct 14, 2008, 10:54 AM

Wow enough to pwn Peter. Sylar and Peter aren't even all that invincible. They can still be pretty easily knocked out, and then taking out the back of their skulls isn't all that hard.

analogue SPRINKLES · Oct 14, 2008, 11:12 AM

Looking forward to the big reset button in the last episode of the season that makes bad future go away.

And then going though the same thing again next year.

voodoo · Oct 14, 2008, 02:42 PM

I approve of this season. It's very comic-like. The lines and plot twists are exactly something I'd expect in a Marvel comic.

Some people like self-obsessed allegories on banal philosophy such as BSG. I like classic, non-serious, non-pretentious good old comics.

Rumor · Oct 14, 2008, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

Looking forward to the big reset button in the last episode of the season that makes bad future go away.

And then going though the same thing again next year.

You are a "glass is half empty" kind of guy, aren't you?

TheWOAT · Oct 14, 2008, 06:02 PM

Hiro killing his friend made me roll my eyes... Suresh and his lifestyle change is slightly interesting... They should just call the show "The Petrelli's ft. Hiro

lavar78 · Oct 14, 2008, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

You are a "glass is half empty" kind of guy, aren't you?

I'm hoping that's rhetorical.

Eug · Oct 15, 2008, 09:39 PM

I'm torn. I dunno if I should give it another chance for 2 more hours, or just forget it.

Laminar · Oct 15, 2008, 09:42 PM

I'm enjoying it so far.

hyteckit · Oct 15, 2008, 09:44 PM

How can Hiro kill his good friend without even hesitating. That doesn't seem like Hiro.

brassplayersrock² · Oct 15, 2008, 09:55 PM

He's "bad ass" now

Stogieman · Oct 15, 2008, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by hyteckit

How can Hiro kill his good friend without even hesitating. That doesn't seem like Hiro.

How can Sylar not use his super hearing when HRG tried to kill him with Mr. Vortex?
That doesn't seem like Sylar.

Cold Warrior · Oct 15, 2008, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by Stogieman

How can Sylar not use his super hearing when HRG tried to kill him with Mr. Vortex?
That doesn't seem like Sylar.

Sylar mentioned in the car after the incident that Noah tried to get him killed. Not sure if he inferred it or used his super hearing and the show didn't clue in the viewer.

Eug · Oct 15, 2008, 10:48 PM

I was really, really, really hoping they'd kill off Sylar, but knew they wouldn't.

hyteckit · Oct 15, 2008, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Stogieman

How can Sylar not use his super hearing when HRG tried to kill him with Mr. Vortex?
That doesn't seem like Sylar.

I think Sylar heard the conversation, but he is able to read minds to a certain extent. But Sylar is trying to chance, and he's trying to understand people. I think Sylar was trying to read the mind of the vortex guy and had the feeling the vortex guy wouldn't do it. I guess he took the chance believing the chance was on his favor. You could see Sylar agitating and trying to figure out what the 3 were thinking and saying.

Hey, Sylar is a complicated character.

voodoo · Oct 15, 2008, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Eug

I was really, really, really hoping they'd kill off Sylar, but knew they wouldn't.

While Mohinder still walks the earth, that's not even on the table.

Eug · Oct 15, 2008, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by voodoo

While Mohinder still walks the earth, that's not even on the table.

OK then. Kill him off too.

jonasmac · Oct 16, 2008, 01:18 AM

Originally Posted by hyteckit

I think Sylar heard the conversation, but he is able to read minds to a certain extent. But Sylar is trying to chance, and he's trying to understand people. I think Sylar was trying to read the mind of the vortex guy and had the feeling the vortex guy wouldn't do it. I guess he took the chance believing the chance was on his favor. You could see Sylar agitating and trying to figure out what the 3 were thinking and saying.

Hey, Sylar is a complicated character.

Where'd Sylar get mind reading powers?

hyteckit · Oct 16, 2008, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by jonasmac

Where'd Sylar get mind reading powers?

I have that power, don't you? He is able to hear the mind ticking. He listens to watches tick. That's his power. But he needs to dissect the brain/watch the understand it. Didn't you hear Sylar talk in the car while with Bennett and Claire? He was analyzing Claire, and explain to Bennett what Claire is feeling. He's able to understand other's emotion and what other's are emoting/thinking. He doesn't read minds, he listens to the mind tick.

The ability to hear the mind tick and the urge to understand it, is what makes Sylar, Sylar. Now that Peter has Sylar's ability, being able to hear the mind tick, he also acquire to urge to understand how a person's mind works.

brassplayersrock² · Oct 16, 2008, 01:53 AM

did anyone else's jaw drop and say "wicked!" when Sylar stood up with his neck broken and fixed himself? That part was awesome I thought.

Chuckit · Oct 16, 2008, 04:50 AM

Originally Posted by Stogieman

How can Sylar not use his super hearing when HRG tried to kill him with Mr. Vortex?
That doesn't seem like Sylar.

Apparently the virus permanently robbed him of all his previously acquired powers except telekinesis (which I guess he used so much that it was as good as his). That's what my sister tells me, anyway, and she reads all the interviews with the producers and stuff like that.

Big Mac · Oct 16, 2008, 04:52 AM

He still has his scalping power, and he still paints the future and goes thermonuclear in the future timeline. I think he regained his powers.

JoshuaZ · Oct 16, 2008, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Big Mac

He still has his scalping power, and he still paints the future and goes thermonuclear in the future timeline. I think he regained his powers.

Bingo. He has all of his old powers.

But for sure he's become all super cute and cuddly. Sigh....

voodoo · Oct 16, 2008, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by Eug

OK then. Kill him off too.

Fine!

Laminar · Oct 20, 2008, 10:06 PM

Well Adam's dead and Peter's powers are gone. I actually like this episode.

- - e r i k - - · Oct 20, 2008, 10:37 PM

Someone actually died? Or did they just "die"?

Laminar · Oct 20, 2008, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

Someone actually died? Or did they just "die"?

Ando "died," but Father Petrelli can take away powers, and when taking Adam's power, we watched him age, die, and disintegrate.

Eug · Oct 20, 2008, 10:50 PM

I'm officially out. My PVR screwed up on today's episode but I don't really care. I can't be bothered to look for the episode online.

See ya guys! Have fun with the show.

Big Mac · 01:08 AM

Bad time for Tivo malfunction, Eug. This episode was worth watching. Although Max Cherry is far too much of a god character. Btw, how was he controlling Parkman's Senior while bed ridden?

Demonhood · Oct 21, 2008, 12:24 PM

it was the first good episode all season. bout bloody time.

Laminar · Oct 21, 2008, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Big Mac

Bad time for Tivo malfunction, Eug. This episode was worth watching. Although Max Cherry is far too much of a god character. Btw, how was he controlling Parkman's Senior while bed ridden?

He must have stolen someone's telepathy/mind control power, but couldn't do anything physically until Adam's power healed him.

jonasmac · Oct 21, 2008, 04:43 PM

Heroes on the upswing! This was a good episode.

I like Mohinder as a bad guy, because now he brings something to the show.

Laminar · Oct 21, 2008, 05:12 PM

Oh yeah, who was the narrator for the "Previously on Heroes" part? It wasn't Mohinder.

Chuckit · Oct 21, 2008, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Laminar

Oh yeah, who was the narrator for the "Previously on Heroes" part? It wasn't Mohinder.

It's just some annoying guy who calls Noah Bennett "HRG." Not a cast member.

Laminar · Oct 21, 2008, 05:27 PM

Has that voice appeared before?

Chuckit · Oct 21, 2008, 07:24 PM

I think it was in the last two(?) episodes.

0157988944 · Oct 21, 2008, 07:27 PM

Agreed that this is finally returning to form.

voodoo · Oct 21, 2008, 07:47 PM

Oh yes, this episode gets the coveted voodoo seal of approval!

lavar78 · Oct 24, 2008, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

It's just some annoying guy who calls Noah Bennett "HRG." Not a cast member.

Mohinder did the "previously on Heroes" voiceover this week. Nathan did it last week.

SebNoker · Oct 24, 2008, 06:36 AM

I watdhed the first two seasons, never got the third one, looking for it currently....Loved it best series next to x files for me....

Chuckit · Nov 11, 2008, 02:55 AM

Well, after several weeks of good episodes, tonight was a hot mess. Did the writers get together and go, "Hey, let's ruin all our existing villains' credibility just to make Arthur Petrelli seem a little more threatening"?

Sylar already had a backstory episode in season 1, and it was really good. Why did they have to replace it with this emo slop?

Since when is Elle all sweet and sensitive? She's supposed to be a literal sociopath for crying out loud! Her father tortured her for years! And now she's all like, "Oh no, Sylar shouldn't hurt anybody, because violence isn't good for the soul!"

And then there's Linderman, who wasn't a terribly creative villain but was a passable evil mastermind, and now he's a bumbling henchman. "But—but—what do we do, Boss?!"

Also, not related to the villain decay, but how did Arthur kill Magic Black Guy? He was able to beat Hiro's time travel but he couldn't beat a guy whose only apparent offensive power is lightning?