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Enigmaaron · Feb 10, 2006, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by MORT A POTTY

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01...roadmap_q1_06/

the Register says otherwise

Interesting. If these supposed chips are the cause of delay that will be very disappointing given that one of the reasons to switch to Intel was to alleviate delays.

d4rkm4c · Feb 10, 2006, 01:01 PM

I ordered on Feb. 4th and my shipdate has stayed at Feb. 28. I'm hoping it ships before that but it doesn't look like it's going to happen

also without a laptop right now as my sony dtr decided to bite the dust.

jimbosyn · Feb 10, 2006, 01:48 PM

Is there anyone in the US with ship date of earlier that the 15th?

tikki · Feb 10, 2006, 01:49 PM

Not from what I have seen.

RickerOne · Feb 10, 2006, 02:52 PM

Ordered 1/10. still says ship 2/15. arrival 2/21.

I paid for two-day shipping.

--rick

Timetheus · Feb 10, 2006, 02:56 PM

I talked to Apple support yesterday about the shipping sitaution (I need to know a few days in advance so I can get the daily limit on Debit Card raised the day it ships ... Joy). Anyway they basically said they don't have a clue, and in more or less that same language... even more joy. My estimated ship date is the 24th, I'm supposed to call on the 21st to get some idea ... but even then they didn't seem to sure.

It's slowly but surely killing me ... I'm starting to actaully envy those around me with PC laptops ... at least they have theirs...

jimbosyn · Feb 10, 2006, 04:41 PM

Now, if they would just update this link http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/whatsinside.html
to give us battery life estimates.

zac4mac · 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by inkhead

also none of your powerbooks should really be shipping tomorrow, Apple quietly increased the ship time by 3 weeks on 95% of the orders. good luck.

So where'd you hear this and how solid is this? Getting tired of watching 3 grand languish in my checking account... think I'll cancel my order if it's delayed and wait till they have some in stock.

Only took a month, but I think the RDF is wearing off.

morffius · Feb 11, 2006, 01:53 PM

I found this link in another forum and I thought I'd pass it along.

http://discussions.apple.com/thread....57895&tstart=0

MORT A POTTY · Feb 11, 2006, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by Enigmaaron

Interesting. If these supposed chips are the cause of delay that will be very disappointing given that one of the reasons to switch to Intel was to alleviate delays.

not exactly. all companies will have the same problem getting chips out initially as it's just wha ttech companies do, announce a date, then don't meet it.

Intel will be far better at actually manufacturing them and ramping speeds with manufacturing increases. they are the industry leaders at this. you see other 65nm CPUs out there? hell, Freescale is just now getting to 90. Intel had seriously dropped the ball w/ design w/ the NetBurst architecture, but at manufacturing they can't be beaten IMO.

inkhead · Feb 12, 2006, 07:31 AM

They are 2ghz chips that sampled slightly lower than 2ghz, basically chips that didn't make the 2ghz cut off. You can overclock them actually.

Originally Posted by zac4mac

"Intel does not make a 1.83GHz low voltage Core Duo chip."

Ya kinda like Moto/Freescale "didn't make" a G4 as fast as the ones in PBs...

t_hah · Feb 12, 2006, 01:48 PM

Here is another interesting thread to read:

According to them the DDR2 memory chips are the ones causing the problems. They say that there is not enough currently. They also mentioned that the stock configured models should be on time... lets hope that this is true and they will start shipping next week.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread....57344&tstart=0

morffius · Feb 12, 2006, 02:26 PM

Everything I've been hearing sounds like hogwash. .... 3 more days till some truth.

Dave Hagan · Feb 12, 2006, 02:52 PM

My guess is it will ship on the 15 or earlier. I don't think there will be any delays as other companies are just about ready to start shipping their core duo laptops too.

terigox · Feb 12, 2006, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dave Hagan

My guess is it will ship on the 15 or earlier. I don't think there will be any delays as other companies are just about ready to start shipping their core duo laptops too.

I hope you're right Dave

Peabo · Feb 12, 2006, 03:43 PM

There have already been delays. Mine was delayed from the 7th of Feb to the 10th of Feb, and then from the 10th of Feb to the 10th of March. And I got my order in the second the store went up after they keynote.

cms · Feb 12, 2006, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by z0ne81

There have already been delays. Mine was delayed from the 7th of Feb to the 10th of Feb, and then from the 10th of Feb to the 10th of March. And I got my order in the second the store went up after they keynote.

Is yours a BTO or shipping as-is? I ordered mine on January 11th at 10:01 AM and it has for the past couple of weeks shown as shipping on the 15th, delivery by 17th. I live in Surrey, by the way. Not far from London...

Kadman · Feb 12, 2006, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by Dave Hagan

My guess is it will ship on the 15 or earlier. I don't think there will be any delays as other companies are just about ready to start shipping their core duo laptops too.

There are already Core Duo laptops out in the hands of consumers, so the chip shouldn't be the hold-up.

Peabo · Feb 12, 2006, 03:57 PM

It's the 1.83 but with a 7200 drive. I'm in Middlesex, so right next to Surrey!

cms · Feb 12, 2006, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by z0ne81

It's the 1.83 but with a 7200 drive. I'm in Middlesex, so right next to Surrey!

I am guessing the modification will make a difference. I spoke to Apple last Wednesday (on behalf of a client and myself) and the guy I talked to said there were three imminent mass ship dates -- the 15th, 23rd and another which I forget. Anyway, he said everything was on course to meet the ship dates. The stock is in the midlands (Leicestershire -- Nuneaton, I think) but modifications will need to be done in the factories where they are built -- Shanghai and Taipei, I believe -- which means you have a longer lead-time from ship date to delivery.

Peabo · Feb 12, 2006, 04:15 PM

bum...

schalliol · Feb 12, 2006, 11:19 PM

I wouldn't necessarily conclude that adjustments for one country will impact the shipment of items to another. We don't know how Apple determines what priority each product will receive.

cms · Feb 13, 2006, 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by schalliol

I wouldn't necessarily conclude that adjustments for one country will impact the shipment of items to another. We don't know how Apple determines what priority each product will receive.

You miss the point entirely. I purchase from Apple on behalf of clients all the time. If the item ships as-is, I usually receive it within 24-48 hours from ordering becasue Apple holds a certain amount of ready-to-go stock here in the UK. If, however, there are modifications to the standard specs -- extra RAM, larger hard drive, etc., -- it generally takes 7-10 days to get here. As-is orders (usually) ship from within the UK; BTO come from direct Asia where the laptops are built, hence the longer delivery time. BTOs also usually take as long as 5 days to "build" and therefore ship later; as-is products usually ship within 24 hours.

Not sure how you get from that to "adjustments for one country will impact the shipment of items to another".....

When I ordered the MacBookPros, I was perfectly aware that I was "pre-ordering" a long while in advance of the product line being officially rolled out. My estimated ship date has always been February 15th. Because the two machines I have ordered are shipping as-is, I can expect them on my doorstep very promptly indeed. My guess is that Apple is pulling out all the stops to ship pre-configured stock on time so that its stores and re-sellers will be able to get them on the shelves on time to meet public expectations. Individually-ordered BTOs may take longer, and ship dates may be pushed back because -- as is often the case with a new Apple product -- immediate demand at the regular retail level far outstrips supply.

moonmonkey · 04:34 AM

Originally Posted by John123

I graduated at the top of my class from a top-10 university. I'm quite confident in my skill set, particularly on economics and econometrics. Nice try, though.

Wow, which one?
These are the top 10 in order (2004).

Oxford
Cambridge
Harvard
Berkeley
MIT
Stanford
University of Tokyo
Princeton
Caltech
Imperial College London

BTW, MacBooks wont be reaching mainland China until June, so you are all very lucky compaired to me,

ajbaker · Feb 13, 2006, 10:39 AM

Any thoughts on when we might expect to see the MacBook Pro in the Regent Street (UK) Apple Store? I'm travelling into London on Thursday 23rd - reckon it will be there by then?

tikki · Feb 13, 2006, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by ajbaker

Any thoughts on when we might expect to see the MacBook Pro in the Regent Street (UK) Apple Store? I'm travelling into London on Thursday 23rd - reckon it will be there by then?

I never understand questions like these. Its not like anyone's opinion is valid or matters. Just visit the store, ask if they have them, and go from there.

CincyGamer · Feb 13, 2006, 11:34 AM

Ordered a 1.83 MBP with the 7200 rpm upgrade... Ordered on 2/10. Shipping date is 3/14 arriving on 3/17.. Might cancel and get an iMac.

schalliol · Feb 13, 2006, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by cms

You miss the point entirely.

Huh? I wasn't addressing all those other points. All I was suggesting is that people can't necessarily assume that the delay of a month for UK customers necessarily means that there will be a delay in other countries.

terigox · Feb 13, 2006, 12:29 PM

So the earliest ship date we have right now is 2/15?? Have you seen your status today, if so, has it changed any?

t_hah · Feb 13, 2006, 12:32 PM

@terigox: No, the shipping date still says the 15th.

schalliol · Feb 13, 2006, 12:34 PM

Yep, still in 2 days.

RickerOne · Feb 13, 2006, 02:07 PM

ditto, 2/15

Bennii · Feb 13, 2006, 03:44 PM

Same here, shipping on the 15th. Mine is a total BTO.

terigox · Feb 13, 2006, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by t_hah

@terigox: No, the shipping date still says the 15th.

I really hope it stays that way!!! That means hopefully the rest of them will be on time afterwards

jimbosyn · Feb 13, 2006, 03:57 PM

<sarcasm>
If apple really loves us, they will ship the on the 14th!
</sarcasm>

schalliol · Feb 13, 2006, 04:09 PM

Actually, while I'd love for Apple to ship early, I would feel better if they can ship perfectly on their estimations. Sure, it would be great to have it sooner, but it also would mean that they aren't able to predict as well. Reduction of variability is key.

Bennii · Feb 13, 2006, 04:10 PM

Sometimes I don't get notification of a product shipped by Apple until after I have received it. Has anyone else noticed that? Our company is fairly close to an "Ingram Micro", a distribution point for Apple. Standard shipping by Apple often is received by the following date (contingent upon the product being in stock of course)

t_hah · Feb 13, 2006, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Bennii

Sometimes I don't get notification of a product shipped by Apple until after I have received it. Has anyone else noticed that? Our company is fairly close to an "Ingram Micro", a distribution point for Apple. Standard shipping by Apple often is received by the following date (contingent upon the product being in stock of course)

I don't think this is such a big issue. If I get the product by the date estimated, I will not call them an complain about the details how it got there.

schalliol · Feb 13, 2006, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by t_hah

I don't think this is such a big issue. If I get the product by the date estimated, I will not call them an complain about the details how it got there.

I think his issue is with having it shipped and not knowing. i.e. as some people say here they check multiple times/day for the status. Knowing that it's been shipped would at least allow for planning.

zac4mac · Feb 13, 2006, 04:59 PM

They're on the way kids - over a dozen people on Apple boards report card charges today, Apple even told me my Book is starting its voyage...

Yessssssssssssss!

Z

lurbano · Feb 13, 2006, 05:10 PM

i ordered it, literally, minutes after the keynote ended. ship date is still 2/15. hasn't ever changed.

zac4mac · Feb 13, 2006, 05:14 PM

lurbano -
My order status reads the same as yours, but I checked my bank site as have several others and we HAVE been charged, Apple rep at store said they have started shipping from China today. There are NO stockpiles anywhere, they are shipping as they build them. Order status page should read SHIPPED later today...

Z

tikki · Feb 13, 2006, 05:19 PM

If the machines aren't ship-quality right now, a few days isn't going to make much difference. R&D should have been completed a while ago.

terigox · Feb 13, 2006, 05:23 PM

OMG!!!

**Goes to check bank statement**

Rumz · Feb 13, 2006, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by zac4mac

They're on the way kids - over a dozen people on Apple boards report card charges today, Apple even told me my Book is starting its voyage...

Yessssssssssssss!

Z

Is there any mention as to whether these that are reported shipped were BTO or just the standard config?

I changed mine to the 7200RPM drive is all-- bank hasn't been charged yet that I can see.

zac4mac · 05:57 PM

Mine's a CTO - 1.83GHz w/100GB 7200rpm HDD, stock 1GB DDR2

Ordered @ 11:15 PST 10 JAN 06.

Z

Well, I'm kinda excited now, I'll really be there when I see the full charge on my bank site and an order confirmation from Apple... c'mon, I'm not geeting a thing done at work today..

vasu · Feb 13, 2006, 05:50 PM

i ordered just a few minutes after the keynote as well, and am getting a stock 1.67 config, yet my card hasn't been charged yet! arg!

here's hoping it's here before the weekend though

-vasu

Bennii · Feb 13, 2006, 05:54 PM

Gr8 idea about checking the bank statement. According to my crdit card company, my card was charged on Feb. 4 for the new MacBook. Hmmm... What does it mean? Perhaps that is the day it shipped from overseas. Not sure...
Tomorrow works for me!

terigox · Feb 13, 2006, 05:57 PM

If apple meets their shipping dates, or even beats them, there's going to be a lot of happy users.

Peabo · Feb 13, 2006, 05:58 PM

My card was charged the day I ordered the MacBook. I dunno if it means that it's going to ship...