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Teronzhul · Jul 27, 2002, 05:23 PM

Neon Genesis Evangelion

I'm new to anime. Within the past month I've watched mononoke, ghost in the shell, others...

I was hooked.

I downloaded the first 2 episodes of Evangelion.

I was hooked.

I went to Babbages and purchased the Perfect Collection.

Episode's 1-20

Wow

Episodes 21-26

OW!

Can we rename this Neon Genesis MINDFSCK

It was good, but where's the resolution? There is none. Just rising action to a climax with no falling action. even the climax is lacking. please tell me the next to movies will right this wrong...

PLEASE MOMMY! MAKE IT ALL BETTER!

cheerios · Jul 27, 2002, 05:27 PM

Norm is a big fan, you may wanna drop him a line to ask!

Try Serial Experiment Lain next!

rampant · Jul 27, 2002, 05:30 PM

Mind file system coherency check?

I saw it, it wasn't good enough to warrant downloading any more.

Most anime is really horrible, a lot of silly white folks think that because it's anime, it's good. On the contrary, if it's anime, it's probably bad. There are very few good anime series.

Oh, and akira was terrible, I'm just the only one not afraid to admit it.

beb · Jul 27, 2002, 05:33 PM

I can't wait for the third Patlabor film to make it to the states!

<img src="http://homepage.mac.com/beb/.Public/BEB_11.jpg" alt=" - " />

[ 07-28-2002, 10:47 PM: Message edited by: beb ]

BlackGriffen · Jul 27, 2002, 05:34 PM

You're probably just not old enough to understand, rampant

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As for the movies, if you thought the series was a mind fsck, wait until you see the movies! I saw them without seeing the series, and the only thing the guy who brought it could say to make the thing coherent was, "Just assume that everyone is insane, and it will make a lot more sense!"

My own favorite series are Trigun and Cowboy Bebop. Both excellent quality stories.

BlackGriffen

rampant · Jul 27, 2002, 05:40 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by BlackGriffen:
You're probably just not old enough to understand, rampant

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As for the movies, if you thought the series was a mind fsck, wait until you see the movies! I saw them without seeing the series, and the only thing the guy who brought it could say to make the thing coherent was, "Just assume that everyone is insane, and it will make a lot more sense!"

My own favorite series are Trigun and Cowboy Bebop. Both excellent quality stories.

BlackGriffen<hr /></blockquote>On the contrary, it is my 17-year old youth which elevates me. <img border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" title="" src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" />

Teronzhul · Jul 27, 2002, 06:05 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by rampant:
Mind file system coherency check?

I saw it, it wasn't good enough to warrant downloading any more.

Most anime is really horrible, a lot of silly white folks think that because it's anime, it's good. On the contrary, if it's anime, it's probably bad. There are very few good anime series.

Oh, and akira was terrible, I'm just the only one not afraid to admit it.<hr /></blockquote>After hearing all about anime etc I attempted to watch some of that tripe they call anime on Cartoon Network. DragonballZ is one of the most hideous things i've ever tried to watch.

For quite some time after that I completely wrote off Anime. A friend then convinced me to watch Vampire Hunter D. I enjoyed it and thats what got me started on the rest. I really do like some of the stuff now.

I haven't watched Akira yet, although I do plan on it eventually.

I liked Evangelion though, at least I think I did. My brain is still in spasms from the last couple hours. I shouldn't have watched all 26 episodes in a row. I need tylenol...

Xtopolop · Jul 27, 2002, 07:16 PM

26 episodes in a row is the way to do it!! The conclusion of the series is in the movie, "The End of Evangelion". The last couple episodes were kind of strange, but that's due to the fact that it's subbed. I think they would be much more powerful if I could understand Japanese. Eva does a great job of making you want to watch the next episode. For your next series, check out Cowboy Bebop, Trigun, or Scryed!

curmi · Jul 27, 2002, 08:14 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by rampant:
Mind file system coherency check?

I saw it, it wasn't good enough to warrant downloading any more.

Most anime is really horrible, a lot of silly white folks think that because it's anime, it's good. On the contrary, if it's anime, it's probably bad. There are very few good anime series.

Oh, and akira was terrible, I'm just the only one not afraid to admit it.<hr /></blockquote>I love Anime. But I agree, Akira is crap. So is Ghost in the Shell. A lot of people seem to think any Anime is good Anime - this is so untrue.

Evangelion though is superb. Try "Wings of Honneamise" - absolutely brilliant.

OwlBoy · Jul 27, 2002, 08:21 PM

I'm just starting to watch Cowboy Beebop, nifty stuff.

I love the movie Metropolis, its my favorite. I suggest you rent it on DVD, buy it even

.

-Owl

Meneldil · Jul 27, 2002, 09:25 PM

One thing to keep in mind- they were running out of money when the last few Eva episodes were made. [I've heard this from a few sources]
Escaflowne is good too. And Slayers, if you're a twit like I am. Record of Lodoss War [long version is better].

beb · Jul 27, 2002, 09:35 PM

Akira may be, but Ghost in the Shell is not crap!

Earth Mk. II · Jul 27, 2002, 10:52 PM

After you get past the typical "little kids piloting huge robots" part of the series, it's actually quite good. (It is a mecha, after all)

Yeah.. Eva is a mind fscker... and no one like how it ended, even the producers ("Congratulations!" ??!!?? Puh-lease!)

the End of Evangelion movies are better, but if you were scratching your head after the series, well... heh, good luck ("think they're insane" is a good bit of advice). They basically replace the final two episodes of the series, and contain the best mecha battle scene.. EVER. Oh yeah.. and have one of the most confusing and ambiguous "resolutions" I've ever seen as well... and there's no english translation you can buy (yet), so you'll have to find a fan-sub...er.. somewhere.

Oh, and if you want to get some of the references, it helps to be familiar with the dead sea scrolls and some other parts of judeo-christain mystology, as the series tends to borrow from the images there.

BTW - I can't stand DB, DBZ, DBGT, or any other DragonBall series that may exist.

Millennium · Jul 28, 2002, 01:23 AM

Most people don't understand what Episodes 25 and 26 are. The most important thing to remember, though, is that the plot ends with Episode 24. 25 and 26 are outside the plot, in an attempt to make sense of it all.

What I would suggest is to watch 1 through 24 twice. The first time, focus on the action, the second time, focus on characterization. Then watch 25 and 26.

Oh, and avoid the movies like the plague. They're not worth it. Not only do they suck long, hard, and mightily, but... well... suffice it to say that the movie lists all of the actors' therapists in the credits. Every last one of them had to go through therapy after making it. It's that damaging to the psyche; I've had more than one friend also have to go through therapy after seeing this. And whatever you do, do not watch the "I don't want to die" sequence on freeze-frame. You'll regret it.

Here's a rather interesting factoid. Early in the movie, we find Shinji masturbating over a nude comatose Asuka. This scene is in the script for one reason, and one reason alone: Megumi Ogata (Shinji's voice-actress) flat-out refused to do the original scene, where Shinji was to rape Asuka instead (keep in mind, once again, that they're both 14). That's how out-of-character things get in this movie. It was deliberately written to scar the viewer; Anno's way of shouting FSCK YOU to the fanbase he so despises (and it's true; he hates his fans with a passion).

Eva as a series is beautiful. It's a shame about the movies.

11011001 · Jul 28, 2002, 01:55 AM

Yes. Evangelion is an awesome series. I like it. I can relate to Rei sometimes.

And shinji has a cool character. All his inner conflict is really fascinating. And the animation is good too, for a series.

Um. Dubbed anime sucks. The subtitled version of any anime is always better, they just seem to get everything entirely wrong in a dubbed version, you know what I am talking about. Those stupid whiny annoying characters. I almost stopped watching Fushigi Yugi because my first couple of eps were *edit: dubbed*. Oh god, I wanted to die. But it got better when there Japanese voices again. Sigh. I had one ep of Ah! My Goddess in English. That was equally bad. Same deal with DBZ, better subbed. Lesson learned, don't judge any anime series unless you see a *edit: subbed* version.

Um, for your next series you might try:
Escaflowne - the movie is awesome, as is the series, it is rather romantic, good love story, in the series and the movie. There is also Vision of Escaflowne...

Fushigi Yugi - another good one, but stay the hell away from a subbed version of it, I would rather get my teeth drilled than watch it subbed

Serial Experiments Lain - it's cool

Hellsing - one of my first series. It has really cool attitude. The intro is awesome, wicked music. Acucard is the best (this is how it is pronounced, and it is spelt either as Acucard or Alucard, depending on where you get the sub titles from, they say it like Acucarde in the series). The first 10 eps really leave you wanting more.

Rurouni Kenshin - nice long series. 96 eps, 1 movie that I know of. It is basically about the Hitokiri Bathowsi, this killing machine turned Rurouni. He battles with his past life as the Hitokiri, in which he killed tons of people, and he is trying to atone for this by becoming a rorouni and helping people. He uses a Sakaba, instead of a Katana. One of my favorites couple of episodes are the pirate episodes (forget the chicks name). He also gets some really good friends, and they help him out and stuff. Karou Dono, Sansoke, are my other favorite characters in this series.

Ah! My Goddess - you get a nice gushy melting feeling inside watching this one. It is one cool love story. Don't watch it with your buddies over, they will beat you up for it, instead watch it with a chick, or in secrecy. The movie is also really good. (I was at a store today and was going to pick up a poster of Bell Dandy, but I double thought, and didn't, but I think I might go back, if I can find a Rorouni Kenshin poster).

As for movies:
Anything from Studio Ghilbi (Kiki's Delivery Service, My Neighbour Totoro, Laputa - Castle In The Sky, The Caste of Cagliostro), Grave of the Fireflies (holly freaking crap is that one good, but so incredibly sad), and um, Metropolis (exceptional visuals).

Ghost in the Shell was a disapointment, but that is mostly because I have a *edit: dubbed* version.

But ya, check out Rurouni Kenshin, or Lain, or even Hellsing.

edit: ouch, I didn't realize I made so many mistakes, but you get the pictured, dubbed anime sucks.

[ 07-28-2002, 06:39 PM: Message edited by: 11011001 ]

Earth Mk. II · Jul 28, 2002, 02:31 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by 11011001:
Serial Experiments Lain - it's cool<hr /></blockquote>I actually saw a subtitled version of SE:Lain first.. then I watched a few episodes in english... and.. they changed names.. NAMES!! WTF?

And Lain's voice in japanese just seems to fit with her character better... donno.

BlackGriffen · Jul 28, 2002, 03:01 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by 11011001:
Yes. Evangelion is an awesome series. I like it. I can relate to Rei sometimes.

And shinji has a cool character. All his inner conflict is really fascinating. And the animation is good too, for a series.

Um. Dubbed anime sucks. The subtitled version of any anime is always better, they just seem to get everything entirely wrong in a dubbed version, you know what I am talking about. Those stupid whiny annoying characters. I almost stopped watching Fushigi Yugi because my first couple of eps were subbed. Oh god, I wanted to die. But it got better when there Japanese voices again. Sigh. I had one ep of Ah! My Goddess in English. That was equally bad. Same deal with DBZ, better subbed. Lesson learned, don't judge any anime series unless you see a dubbed version.

Um, for your next series you might try:
Escaflowne - the movie is awesome, as is the series, it is rather romantic, good love story, in the series and the movie. There is also Vision of Escaflowne...

Fushigi Yugi - another good one, but stay the hell away from a subbed version of it, I would rather get my teeth drilled than watch it subbed

Serial Experiments Lain - it's cool

Hellsing - one of my first series. It has really cool attitude. The intro is awesome, wicked music. Acucard is the best (this is how it is pronounced, and it is spelt either as Acucard or Alucard, depending on where you get the sub titles from, they say it like Acucarde in the series). The first 10 eps really leave you wanting more.

Rurouni Kenshin - nice long series. 96 eps, 1 movie that I know of. It is basically about the Hitokiri Bathowsi, this killing machine turned Rurouni. He battles with his past life as the Hitokiri, in which he killed tons of people, and he is trying to atone for this by becoming a rorouni and helping people. He uses a Sakaba, instead of a Katana. One of my favorites couple of episodes are the pirate episodes (forget the chicks name). He also gets some really good friends, and they help him out and stuff. Karou Dono, Sansoke, are my other favorite characters in this series.

Ah! My Goddess - you get a nice gushy melting feeling inside watching this one. It is one cool love story. Don't watch it with your buddies over, they will beat you up for it, instead watch it with a chick, or in secrecy. The movie is also really good. (I was at a store today and was going to pick up a poster of Bell Dandy, but I double thought, and didn't, but I think I might go back, if I can find a Rorouni Kenshin poster).

As for movies:
Anything from Studio Ghilbi (Kiki's Delivery Service, My Neighbour Totoro, Laputa - Castle In The Sky, The Caste of Cagliostro), Grave of the Fireflies (holly freaking crap is that one good, but so incredibly sad), and um, Metropolis (exceptional visuals).

Ghost in the Shell was a disapointment, but that is mostly because I have a subbed version.

But ya, check out Rurouni Kenshin, or Lain, or even Hellsing.<hr /></blockquote>Did you get subbed and dubbed mixed up in your post? I know it's easy (1 letter difference); I do it all the time.

BlackGriffen

Xtopolop · Jul 28, 2002, 05:31 AM

The best example of a character being completely changed by dubbing is Edward from CB! A character's voice plays a major part in defining who they are, and the voice actors used to dub them completely destroy that image.

11011001:
You should definitely check out Trigun. The first bunch of episodes are sorta mediocre, but after either 9 or 14 (forget which) the series takes a serious turn for the better. While the first ones seem kind of random, they set the stage and introduce you to the characters. The rest of the series after that is incredible. After seeing Trigun, you may understand why I feel he is a blatant rip-off of the main character, Vash.

Oh, and if you haven't seen it (you failed to mention it w/ the other Ghilbi Studios), you should see Spirited Away too!!

Millennium · Jul 28, 2002, 09:57 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by 11011001:
Um. Dubbed anime sucks. The subtitled version of any anime is always better, they just seem to get everything entirely wrong in a dubbed version, you know what I am talking about.<hr /></blockquote>You're almost right. But I can think of two exceptions to the rule, two series where the dub is actually better than the sub. These would be Ranma 1/2 and Generator Gawl.
<blockquote>quote:<hr />I almost stopped watching Fushigi Yugi because my first couple of eps were subbed.<hr /></blockquote>The dub of Episode 12 of Fushigi Yuugi is a travesty beyond all human comprehension.
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Escaflowne - the movie is awesome, as is the series, it is rather romantic, good love story, in the series and the movie. There is also Vision of Escaflowne...<hr /></blockquote>Vision of Escaflowne and Escaflowne are the same series. I didn't much care for the movie myself. But the series was great. And it's got one of the great opening theme songs in all of anime.
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Fushigi Yugi - another good one, but stay the hell away from a subbed version of it, I would rather get my teeth drilled than watch it subbed<hr /></blockquote>Don't you mean dubbed? I'd agree there. Subs all the way on this one.
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Serial Experiments Lain - it's cool<hr /></blockquote>I highly recommend watching all thirteen episodes in one pull, starting at midnight. Cheaper than crack and lots more fun.
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Hellsing - one of my first series. It has really cool attitude. The intro is awesome, wicked music. Acucard is the best (this is how it is pronounced, and it is spelt either as Acucard or Alucard, depending on where you get the sub titles from, they say it like Acucarde in the series). The first 10 eps really leave you wanting more.<hr /></blockquote>Dammit; they got the spelling wrong! It's Alucard. There's a very important reason for this. Spell it backwards and you'll see why.
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Rurouni Kenshin - nice long series. 96 eps, 1 movie that I know of. It is basically about the Hitokiri Bathowsi, this killing machine turned Rurouni. He battles with his past life as the Hitokiri, in which he killed tons of people, and he is trying to atone for this by becoming a rorouni and helping people. He uses a Sakaba, instead of a Katana. One of my favorites couple of episodes are the pirate episodes (forget the chicks name). He also gets some really good friends, and they help him out and stuff. Karou Dono, Sansoke, are my other favorite characters in this series.<hr /></blockquote>Ack! NOOOOO! You've seen the godawful Shinsen-Gumi fansubs! That's Rurouni, Battousai, Sanosuke,

Anyway, Kenshin is great... for the most part. Here is what I would do. Watch from the beginning ("the pro boxes Wandering Samurai") up through the Kyoto Arc ("Legend of Kyoto"). I believe that's Episode 48. Then, skip straight to Episode 67, watch through 76, and stop. Forget the rest of the TV series. Then go watch the OVA's, which are called "Samurai X" in the US for some godawful reason; this goes back to the time when Kenshin was the Battousai.
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Ah! My Goddess - you get a nice gushy melting feeling inside watching this one. It is one cool love story. Don't watch it with your buddies over, they will beat you up for it, instead watch it with a chick, or in secrecy. The movie is also really good. (I was at a store today and was going to pick up a poster of Bell Dandy, but I double thought, and didn't, but I think I might go back, if I can find a Rorouni Kenshin poster).<hr /></blockquote>There is a very good wallscroll out there of Belldandy wearing a purple sash. And not much else. Trust me; show the guys this, and they won't beat you up anymore. Though they'll probably beat someting else instead

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Anything from Studio Ghilbi (Kiki's Delivery Service, My Neighbour Totoro, Laputa - Castle In The Sky, The Caste of Cagliostro), Grave of the Fireflies (holly freaking crap is that one good, but so incredibly sad), and um, Metropolis (exceptional visuals).<hr /></blockquote>Ghibli rocks. But if you want to watch Ghibli movies alone, watch Grave of the Fireflies and My Neighbor Totoro back to back. The movies were originally released as a double feature, and there's a reason for this, namely so you won't need Prozac after watching Grave of the Fireflies. The movies are completely unrelated.

If you can't do this, however, then don't watch Grave of the Fireflies alone.
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Ghost in the Shell was a disapointment, but that is mostly because I have a subbed version.<hr /></blockquote>I don't get it. You keep daying subbed, when it's dubs you're complaining about. Then again, I didn't like GitS either.

Allow me to add a couple other anime to the list:

His and Her Circumstances - After Hideaki Anno finished Evangelion, he got really depressed and left the anime industry. he even tried to kill himself. This series is what he made to tell the world of his recovery. Absolutely beautiful. At least up until Episode 19, where Anno left Gainax for financial reasons and the rest of the series is based on heavily-edited notes and directed by some ****wit who decided to turn things all dark and depressing and DAMMIT ANNO WHY DIDN'T YOU STAY.... ahem. I'm bitter.

Generator Gawl - A very fun, very short, very good series. I've thought about making a silly music video of this series to the Chia Pet song ("Chia Mech - The weaponry that grows!")

Magic Users' Club - Never before have I seen a cast of characters who exude "Is this series going to turn into a hentai? COOL!" but then the series never does. Very fun. You can watch the first three discs and the last four seperately if you want.

Excel Saga - This is, hands down, The Weirdest Series You Will Ever Watch. However, a word of warning: if you ever find a full version of The Menchi Song in the Net, DO NOT LISTEN TO IT. You will regret it. Trust me.

Slayers - Basically a series which parodies all other anime while being a serious series in its own right. One of the best I've ever seen. Two other series follow it, Slayers Next and Slayers TRY; these are just as good if not better. But beware: although the dub of Slayers is passable, Next and TRY are horribly dubbed. Get the subs. If you do decide to get it dubbed, then this series makes a good introduction to Lisa Ortiz, one of the few really good American voice actresses. However, it will also introduce you to Crispin Freeman, one of the worst American voice actors, and Next and TRY will introduce you to the worst one. You'll know him when you hear him.

zigzag · Jul 28, 2002, 10:37 AM

Can someone explain to me what distinguishes anime from, uh, cartoons? I don't get out much.

Mind you, I'm not trying to imply anything - I honestly don't know. I've never seen one.

The_Equivocator · Jul 28, 2002, 11:53 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by zigzag:
Can someone explain to me what distinguishes anime from, uh, cartoons?<hr /></blockquote>The way I see it, there are three categories:

Cartoons: They are usually comedies geared toward a younger audience... Such as the episodes that you see when you watch TV on a saturday morning as well as movies like Madeline Goes to Paris and Rugrats: The Movie.

Animation: Sometimes marketed for a younger audience but typically enjoyed by viewers of all ages. Think Simpsons, King of the Hill, The Critic. Movies that fall into this category are [i]The Iron Giant[I], Monsters Inc, etc.

Anime: Basically, animation made in Japan. Usually marketed and intended for an adult audience. Blood, gore, nudity, sex, and adult themes rear their faces in some anime titles. Ranges from Manga (porn) to high-quality movies (such as Princess Mononoke).

Speaking of The Iron Giant, go and see it now if you haven't yet. It was released in the States a couple of years ago, but was marketed horribly and soon disappeared from the theaters. Many people I have talked to consider it the best animated movie made in the US. Go rent it and watch it with your family. Then, let me know how you liked it.

[ANGRY SIDE_RANT]I was working at Blockbuster a few years back when Iron Giant was released. Some couple came up to me and asked me to recommend a movie. I recommended The Iron Giant to them.

"Ooh, what's that about?"

I told them.

"Wow, that sounds really interesting, where is it?"

I went over and got it for them.

"Wait, this is a cartoon?" <snicker>

They immediately put it down and walked away. Grrrrr! Some people...[/ANGRY SIDE_RANT]

Millennium · Jul 28, 2002, 12:41 PM

OK, I can't let this slide.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by The_Equivocator:
Anime: Basically, animation made in Japan.<hr /></blockquote>Up to here, you're correct.

It's worth noting that the Japanese word anime technically means all animation, including American cartoons. However, in recent years, they've started using animation as a loanword from English, to describe non-Japanese animation.
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Usually marketed and intended for an adult audience.<hr /></blockquote>And the survey says... WRONG!

Although some animation is marketed and intended for an adult audience, the proportions aren't really any greater than live-action films. However, it is worth noting that Japanese age standards are somewhat more mature than in many other parts of the world. Card Captor Sakura, for instance, is marketed towards eight-year-old girls in Japan. However, because of a shounen-ai (male-male) relationship between two of the supporting characters and some pretty nasty (but never explicit) sexual overtones in others, the uncut version gets a 13+ rating here. The mutilated version, known as Cardcaptors, is an 8+ by American standards, but they butchered most of the series and even tried to change the main character using nothing but editing techniques.
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Blood, gore, nudity, sex, and adult themes rear their faces in some anime titles.<hr /></blockquote>Some, yes. Not all. But as I said before, what the Japanese consider to be fine children's fair is somewhat more mature than what many other cultures would consider fit for a child to see.
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Ranges from Manga (porn) to high-quality movies (such as Princess Mononoke).<hr /></blockquote>Manga is not porn. Manga is comics. The word you want is hentai. There are some hentai manga out there, but not all manga is hentai.

And again, what the Japanese consider to be pornographic is more mature than what most other cultures would consider porn. Take a look at Chobits for an example; most Americans would consider this to be softcore pornography, but its Japanese target market was middle-school-age girls (and drawn by CLAMP, a famous all-female team of artists who also did Card Captor Sakura and many other good series).

Oh; I have one other anime reccommendation that I'd forgotten before: Marmalade Boy. This is another sugary-sweet high-school romance, but very well done and with some of the most likable (and most despicable) characters out there. What sets it apart from most series is the sheer complexity of the web of relationships. You've heard of love triangles, but when I tried to map out the relationships here I needed to use a dodecahedron.

BlackGriffen · Jul 28, 2002, 12:47 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by The_Equivocator:
Anime: Basically, animation made in Japan. Usually marketed and intended for an adult audience. Blood, gore, nudity, sex, and adult themes rear their faces in some anime titles. Ranges from Manga (porn) to high-quality movies (such as Princess Mononoke).<hr /></blockquote>Not quite. Manga is actually a fancy word for comic book. Hentai, Japanese for "perverted," is actually what the porn is called. Half-affectionately called "tentacle anime." *shudders*

BlackGriffen

mr_sonicblue · Jul 28, 2002, 01:01 PM

As far as Evangelion goes, it seems like most people either love it or hate it.

<img src="http://homepage.mac.com/mr_sonicblue/ReiDone_0003.jpg" alt=" - " />

Can you tell where I stand?

Millennium · Jul 28, 2002, 02:21 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by mr_sonicblue:
As far as Evangelion goes, it seems like most people either love it or hate it.

<snip image>

Can you tell where I stand?<hr /></blockquote>Dude, she's 14 years old! OK, granted, this is Gainax, so she looks like she's 23, but still, man!

Eva fandom scares me almost as much as Gundam Wing fandom. I'm just glad there aren't any characters in that series whose names start with X or Y, or the yaoi-fiends would start using quadratic equations...

The_Equivocator · Jul 28, 2002, 02:22 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by BlackGriffen:
Manga is actually a fancy word for comic book.<hr /></blockquote>Yeah, I realized that my mind had slipped after reading Millenium's post.

Oops...

cdhostage · Jul 28, 2002, 04:18 PM

I'm not much into the whole tentacle-rape thing, but I do like how mainstream anime doesn't shy away from sexuality.

<side> why is the female nipple obscene in America? I mean, the Feminist Revolution should have granted right to public tit-nudity just like men have....

Zytryx · Jul 28, 2002, 05:47 PM

I didn't see anyone mention it but Tenchi Moyu the OAV can be quite entertaining in a comedic way

mr_sonicblue · Jul 28, 2002, 05:51 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Millennium:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by mr_sonicblue:
As far as Evangelion goes, it seems like most people either love it or hate it.

<snip image>

Can you tell where I stand?<hr /></blockquote>Dude, she's 14 years old! OK, granted, this is Gainax, so she looks like she's 23, but still, man!

Eva fandom scares me almost as much as Gundam Wing fandom. I'm just glad there aren't any characters in that series whose names start with X or Y, or the yaoi-fiends would start using quadratic equations...<hr /></blockquote>Holy crap! Assume the worst why don't you? If I was obsessed with her physically, there are <a href="http://pantransit.reptiles.org/images/2001-09-23/rei162.jpg" target="_blank">much better pictures</a>. I guess I need a poster of Einstein, or something, to be sane...

cdhostage · Jul 28, 2002, 07:03 PM

Mmmmmmm.... smooth and peachy.

I've never seen anyone with legs that long.

Come to think of it, I've never seen Japanese women with facial characterisitcs like those commonly portrayed in anime. Their eyes are NOT as large as in anim, and for some reason Japanese women do not normally... um... develop like American girls. Perhaps they eat less? Production of various hormones is linked to amoujt of body fat... Anyway, people are always more attractive in ink than in a photograph.

Millennium · Jul 28, 2002, 07:35 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by mr_sonicblue:
Holy crap! Assume the worst why don't you? If I was obsessed with her physically, there are <a href="http://pantransit.reptiles.org/images/2001-09-23/rei162.jpg" target="_blank">much better pictures</a>. I guess I need a poster of Einstein, or something, to be sane...<hr /></blockquote>...pics which you happened to be able to find right at the drop of a hat?

No hard feelings; I wanted to take a dig at Gainax's rather... exaggerated... drawing style more than anything else. KareKano being the major exception to the rule, of course.

However, my roommate in my last year of college was rather... um... obsessive... about Rei. And another one was equally obsessive about Asuka. This made for some rather interesting decoration schemes. <a href="http://mallom.free.fr/images/Evangelion/asuka_rei_lit.jpg" target="_blank">My roommate had a wallscroll of this one above his bed.</a>

mr_sonicblue · Jul 28, 2002, 08:10 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Millennium:
[QUOTE]...pics which you happened to be able to find right at the drop of a hat?<hr /></blockquote>Wow, you caught me, I have a bookmark to:

<a href="http://pantransit.reptiles.org/images/nsorted/anime/" target="_blank">http://pantransit.reptiles.org/images/nsorted/anime/</a>

Too bad there's no porn there, so you might not like it (j/k, of course).

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Millennium:
[QUOTE]No hard feelings; I wanted to take a dig at Gainax's rather... exaggerated... drawing style more than anything else. KareKano being the major exception to the rule, of course.

However, my roommate in my last year of college was rather... um... obsessive... about Rei. And another one was equally obsessive about Asuka. This made for some rather interesting decoration schemes. <a href="http://mallom.free.fr/images/Evangelion/asuka_rei_lit.jpg" target="_blank">My roommate had a wallscroll of this one above his bed.</a><hr /></blockquote>You're not the only one with friends like that... With one guy I know, his basement is so plastered with anime wallscrolls, that you can't tell what color the walls are.

It's sad, really

11011001 · Jul 28, 2002, 08:20 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Millennium:

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Hellsing - one of my first series. It has really cool attitude. The intro is awesome, wicked music. Acucard is the best (this is how it is pronounced, and it is spelt either as Acucard or Alucard, depending on where you get the sub titles from, they say it like Acucarde in the series). The first 10 eps really leave you wanting more.<hr /></blockquote>Dammit; they got the spelling wrong! It's Alucard. There's a very important reason for this. Spell it backwards and you'll see why.
<hr /></blockquote>I know, you pointed it out before too. They should have subbed it Alucard, but perhaps they missed it? Well anyways, that is what I get for getting a fan version eh?

And ya, I don't have the DVD sub version of Rurouni Kenshin.

And OMG I totally messed up subbed and dubbed, I thought I was getting it right, but my mind was slipping I guess. I was in a real hurry to go somewhere and do something, and wanted to finish that post, and didn't check it over. Oi. But I fixed it.

And I haven't seen Spirited Away yet Xtopolop, or Princess Monoke (ghilbi right?)

Oo, and I don't think Metropolis is Ghilbi is it? Too lazy to open it and see.

mr_sonicblue did you draw that? I take it you did.

Err. Keeping kicking myself and laughing at how badly I mixed up dubbed and dubbed... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

zigzag · Jul 28, 2002, 08:28 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by cdhostage:
Mmmmmmm.... smooth and peachy.

I've never seen anyone with legs that long.

Come to think of it, I've never seen Japanese women with facial characterisitcs like those commonly portrayed in anime. Their eyes are NOT as large as in anim, and for some reason Japanese women do not normally... um... develop like American girls.<hr /></blockquote>Many Japanese women have been trying to look more Western for years. I've seen stories about them getting plastic surgery to make their eyes rounder. The Western look is also evident in much of the advertising.

I guess I'll have to rent an anime DVD to see what all the fuss is about.

Xtopolop · Jul 28, 2002, 08:30 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by 11011001:
And I haven't seen Spirited Away yet Xtopolop, or Princess Monoke (ghilbi right?)
<hr /></blockquote>I loved Mononoke! Sprited Away was cool too, but a tad strange. Then again, what Ghilbi movie isn't a tad strange? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

mr_sonicblue · Jul 28, 2002, 09:18 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by 11011001:
mr_sonicblue did you draw that? I take it you did.<hr /></blockquote>No, I did not. I'm not enough of a fanboy yet to pick up a pen myself

beb · Jul 28, 2002, 10:44 PM

<img src="http://homepage.mac.com/beb/.Public/BEB_09.jpg" alt=" - " /> <img src="http://homepage.mac.com/beb/.Public/BEB_10.jpg" alt=" - " /> <img src="http://homepage.mac.com/beb/.Public/BEB_12.jpg" alt=" - " />

I love Patlabor! Never seen Evangelion -seems like it might be ok.

As for an anime rape scene, in The Wings of Hommens... -ah whatever there is this scene where Shiro (main character) attempts to rape his bizarre religion-twisted love interest. She clocks him with a trophy -I think.

Then, the next day she apologizes. ? Uh, I missed a step here. After knocking the guy out, I woulda kicked the crap out of the guy animated or not.

My point is, this kind of thing would never be even considered by an American owned cartoon production company.

cdhostage · Jul 29, 2002, 12:23 AM

Mr. Sonicblue, Bondage Fairies is most definitely porn.

Granted, 99% of that site is safe.

Dragon Half looks funny. I'll look around on Carracho for it.

BlackGriffen · Jul 29, 2002, 01:41 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by cdhostage:
Mr. Sonicblue, Bondage Fairies is most definitely porn.

Granted, 99% of that site is safe.

Dragon Half looks funny. I'll look around on Carracho for it.<hr /></blockquote>It's hilarious! It's only two episodes, though!

I guess there wasn't a lot of support for making a full fledged series (or even great animation quality). Too bad, because I really loved watching Damuramu

.

Another two episoder (1 hr total) that's decent is Tattoon Masters. It's a story about a misogynist guy who's absent mother engages him to marry a tribal woman.

BlackGriffen

Edit: Fixed shpelling.

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