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Apr 22, 2008, 09:53 PM
 
The pasta salad is underexposed; the pool table was shot in low light. They’re renovating the entire place (hence the workers), and they’ve recently installed new wires and cables and things in the basement, but haven’t actually switched half of it on, so there’s very little light. There’s only one small, weak lamp (typical pool table lamp) to light up the entire room, so it was quite dark.

I actually wanted more of the junk on the right, but the picture kind of stopped there, so I couldn’t get it. I fear cropping it out will obscure the corner hole, leaving the whole thing unrecogniseable as a pool table (qv. turtle’s post).

Oh, and the pasta salad was pretty damn good, if I do say so myself.
     
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Apr 22, 2008, 09:56 PM
 
I just realised that the last six posts have been made by people from a very small part of the globe (Germany, Denmark, Norway), spread out over very large portions of the globe (US, Canada, Denmark, Australia).

North Europe is taking over the world!
     
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Originally Posted by Oisín View Post
The pasta salad is underexposed;
I could always photoshop your pasta to look like a cheap tart.
     
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Originally Posted by Oisín View Post
North Europe is taking over the world!
Keep dreaming

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Apr 23, 2008, 01:48 AM
 
I didn't take this aerial photo of the UC Berkeley (CA) Campus and environs but I ran across it and thought it would be of great interest to many of the posters here.

However, the photographer seems very good at protecting his intellectual rights (and with good reason!) so, after reading his conditions for using the photo and not being quite sure which of the conditions I would best qualify for I decided I'd just post the link to the image and let anyone who wants a copy for their refrigerator to deal with that and any other usage issues with Mr. Greenspun.

Photograph by Philip Greenspun: uc-berkeley-aerial-4

Here's the link for a larger image:
http://philip.greenspun.com/images/2...aerial-4.4.jpg


And here is the link to his copyright conditions.

Philip Greenspun Copyright Notice

Finally, I chose to post it here rather than starting a new thread.

And with that, enjoy.
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Apr 23, 2008, 03:13 AM
 
Separate thread would have been the better option. This thread is for posting images you have taken for others to critique (and hopefully help you to take better pictures in the future).

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Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - View Post
you need to do something about the yellow-green colour cast and otherwise dull colours.
The colour is actually pretty accurate - what doesn't come across, though, is the sense of serenity and reservedness generated by the contrast of subdued luxury. (This obviously doesn't apply to the gold chandeliers and stuff in the actually prayer halls of Buddhist temples.)

It's the opposite of "bling", and knowing what that place *really* feels like makes me want to go back so bad.
     
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Apr 23, 2008, 05:38 AM
 
I (personally) would have included more of the cup on the right and trimmed off from the back edge of the table.
Yeah, I would too, if I’d managed to get the rest of the cup in the shot in the first place.

You're DOF is about 2 or 3 inches in front of the tobacco package too - don't know if that's on purpose or not.
Nope, it’s not. It was just too dark for me to be able to see that when taking the shot, otherwise the focus would have been on the pack of cigarettes, not the patch of nothingness in front of it.
     
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Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - View Post
Well duh
Heh. What I was saying is that the highlights in both shots look blown out already, so they aren't underexposed, they're badly lit. There's a difference there. /nitpick
     
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I'd say both.

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Originally Posted by Oisín View Post
These are both mediocre shots (at the very best), but since I haven’t got any useful pictures to post and these are all I have handy, and since this is just to get the thread rolling again, slag away.


Our poor pool table, after being repeatedly molested by idiot kids who manage to get into our basement on weekends when the workers forget to lock the doors after themselves.


Uhm, well … pasta salad. Obviously. What? I said I didn’t have anything useful to post!
The juxtaposition of the messy/dirty pool table and the underexposed pasta makes me think "I'm NEVER eating there!" The colors and lighting on the pasta salad seem to fit with the pool table-even if the pictures were taken in very different locations. Is this something about the camera, or did you simply dig up pictures that went together well? (even though you don't think much of them).

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Apr 23, 2008, 08:59 AM
 
It’s neither—it’s a complete coincidence that I hadn’t even noticed.

I can kind of see what you mean, though, and it’s a bit odd, ’cause normally I tend to go way overboard and put blue in everything (easily observable if you go through my flickr photostream), whereas here it seems to be the green/dark red combination that’s dominant. How strange.
     
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Apr 23, 2008, 12:48 PM
 
Okay, I give up. What is that?
     
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Moth?
     
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Here's another dandy for those of you who hate heavy post-processing.

     
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Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
Moth?
I read your reply. Then I looked at the image again for about two seconds.

Then I jumped twelve feet in the air and fell back and crashed into my table. UCK!

I hate moths.
     
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Originally Posted by Oisín View Post
I read your reply. Then I looked at the image again for about two seconds.

Then I jumped twelve feet in the air and fell back and crashed into my table. UCK!

I hate moths.
Ha...

Coincidental story coming up. On the way to work this morning, I took a look down at my t-shirt and saw several weird holes at the bottom left. I couldn't figure it out forever, and then realized that a moth must've gotten into our closet. I'm going to have to check the rest of my clothes tonight.
     
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This little guy spends 7 years under ground and then only gets to fly around, suck tree sap and mate for 5 days before it's time for him to turn back into
earth. He's emerging from his shell here and is waiting for his wings to dry
out. He's about 3 min. old in this shot. He's about 3 inches long or so.
Oh wow...at first I thought he was eating another bug.
     
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Originally Posted by Tesselator View Post
BTW, that kid above would look awesome (IMO) if there was no brim ghost
on the hat. That's the only thing... Good pic!
Thanks. I tried for about 2 minutes to edit it out without losing the look that I had worked for, but decided I didn't have enough time to fix it. If it was a client, I'd put a bit more work into it, but my family will never know the difference. They literally think I can do no wrong.

I'm doing my best to keep them out of this thread.
     
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Apr 23, 2008, 07:20 PM
 
For Tesselator:
The first picture needs to be a portrait, eliminating most of the out of focus bits. Second bug picture is quite good. I'd try doing something with the washed out / out of focus top left corner though, it's a bit distracting.

Third picture? :zzz:


For Jawbone:
Too overprocessed for my liking. Looks like desaturated HDR. The brim has been mentioned, but it's his ear that bothers me the most. Gorgeous eyes though!

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Apr 25, 2008, 10:44 AM
 
i saw the square and automatically thought trash bin. it really ruins the photo. other than that, it's an awesome picture. the signature is in the exact right spot.
     
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Originally Posted by Tesselator View Post
Hehehe I spent 15min. setting up the shot just to get that effect - and the 1st guy
to see it says to remove it. LOL!
LOL! Why would you ever intentionally add loss of detail by washing out part of the shot. Especially for a detailed macro shot. I think it detracts greatly. The detail on the bug is superb, yet the blurred/washout area is awful.
     
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Apr 26, 2008, 08:24 PM
 
The only problem with in-camera effects is that is all you get. If you get it right, it's great. If not, hope you have another chance at the subject.

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Apr 27, 2008, 11:19 AM
 
Definitely.

If film was still the order of the day, price would be a certain impediment to my breaking into the photography realm. With a senior or family session, I'll shoot between 600-800 images within an hour and a half or so. This would've been unimaginable in the film days, at least for a poor college student like myself. All I needed was $200 for an 8 GB and 4 GB "extra" card.
     
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hope these are to peoples likings.

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a little dark, but then again these were taken at sunset
     
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Originally Posted by Tesselator View Post
Very true. This is the one hugh advantage of digital over film. The price
per shot with digital is almost zero.
Which is why I got back into photography when the first megapixel cameras started showing up. But nature pictures, pictures that depend on weather conditions, and pictures that depend on the sun are very sensitive subjects (literally), and that means I'd probably never try to mess with manipulation of the environment I was going to shoot when trying to take one of those pictures. I'd go for a slight underexposure of the primary subject and play with it afterward-just to make sure I get the composition and basic tone I want.
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PS:
We need more people "flooding" the thread with their images and crits
and less people complaining about it imo.
I would REALLY be playing my part except that my camera is still on backorder. I'm looking forward to both a great camera and some extra time on my hands in the next few months, and that should allow me to correct my lack of input here.

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Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² View Post
Picture 2
Picture 2

hope these are to peoples likings.

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a little dark, but then again these were taken at sunset
I like 'em. The sunset shows in the color of the light, but it's not overdone-no extra red-orange in the highlights, just "this is fall" in the light and the subject. The composition works for me too-there's direction and interest throughout both. I wouldn't use both pictures together though-they're so similar in feel that they'd be better bookend images than if used side by side.

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Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² View Post

These makes me seasick. First is leaning heavily to the left. Second to the right.

Sky is blown out in both of them.

Oh and:
Chromatic aberration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Originally Posted by Tesselator View Post
No wonder you are against digital post production, seeing as you are completely inept at it. This is severely over-sharpened. Notice the halos around the mountains.

Otherwise a nice image. Love the tonality of the sky.

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I like it. I'd crop off a bit more on the left though.

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no need for the crop. it looks perfect that way
     
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Mastrap, that's almost perfectly a classic "rule of thirds" composition. Cropping the left would ruin that. Good color, good lines, movement and life without blur. Very nice.

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Apr 27, 2008, 09:06 PM
 
I agree with both of you that the composition works. It wasn't a detraction from the image at all, it's just that by following that rule you are also creating a whole lot of negative space. My suggestion was simply an alternative crop.

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Apr 27, 2008, 10:21 PM
 
Thanks for the comments, all.

I looked into cropping it, but for me a crop would weaken the picture. I only had a second to take it before the gulls all took off. Had I had more time I would have moved the camera down just a tad, creating more visual interest.
     
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The idea is nice, but the photo doesn't quite work for me. It's not that there is something wrong with it, technically, but it's just a bit too much gray and the background is too noisy (aperture 2.8 or so would have helped to smoothen things out). Perhaps a portrait version of it would have been better (to emphasize the notion of space), but it doesn't quite work out for me.
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here are two of my personal favorites, taken with my trusty 300D and the kit lens.


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Originally Posted by OreoCookie
The idea is nice, but the photo doesn't quite work for me. It's not that there is something wrong with it, technically, but it's just a bit too much gray and the background is too noisy (aperture 2.8 or so would have helped to smoothen things out). Perhaps a portrait version of it would have been better (to emphasize the notion of space), but it doesn't quite work out for me.
I have to agree a bit. The composition is lovely, but I’m missing some contrast between foreground (birds) and background (everything else).
     
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I have for a long time been wanting to experiment with "light-painting". This weekend I had a good chance and this is the result:



I think it turned out good
     
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it's a lil dark, but it has a very eery feeling to it. I like it
     
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What did you "paint" it with? A fairly strong flashlight I take it? Nice cabin lights.

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…and here comes ARENA to embarrass us all

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ARENA: Those shots are fantastically crisp.









I got a DSLR for Christmas a year ago, I really don't know jack about photography, and just like to mess around with my camera, these are my favorite images, I know they don't compare to you pros, but I have a great time playing with my bootleg copies of Photoshop and Aperture. Also, sorry if they are really big, I don't know how to adjust them right in PS.

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Top one needs a good top-crop. I like photos #2 and #4.

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Top one needs a good top-crop. I like photos #2 and #4.

You and your crops.

I actually like the image the way it is. It conforms to the rule of thirds and the top area communicates the heaviness of the walls.
     
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Originally Posted by Mastrap View Post
You and your crops.

I actually like the image the way it is. It conforms to the rule of thirds and the top area communicates the heaviness of the walls.
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If the top part of the wall was the main subject it would conform to the "rule" of thirds, however it's not and that part is fairly uninteresting:



What is interesting here is the window, the walls are just framing the subject giving it context:

With a tighter crop, the main subjects moves closer to the thirds making for a much more interesting and dynamic image:


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i like it without the crop. more character
     
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Depends on what kind of "character" you are talking about I s'pose…

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What did you "paint" it with? A fairly strong flashlight I take it? Nice cabin lights.
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Neat-o! Is that a long exposure with multiple flash ignitions?
I used my camera flash with some red paper over to paint the cabin, and then I used the flash without anything to light up the rest of the tractor. Well, except the headlamps, there I used my LED-flashlight. And it's a 105 seconds exposure. I had hoped for a little help from the moon, but it was cloudy when I was out, to the photo is a little dark.
     
 
 
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